Rode is fantastic.
Bundesliga, DFB Cup, and other Bundesliga business 2014/2015
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Ho... ly... feck.
Wow....
Awesomely played and what a horrendous miss by Lewandowski.
Wow....
Awesomely played and what a horrendous miss by Lewandowski.
Guardiola should just keep rotating the attacking players and not shove all of them into the team, so that half of them have to play out of position. And how did we not score there.
Just saw the table. Some traditional big names in relegation zone!
Looking at this game, Rode should start next game alongside Alonso. A workhorse is the thing that's been missing in this formation ever since Lahm, Alaba etc. got injured.
Oh, Drmic on for Bender. All or nothing, I guess. We might overrun them now.
Yeah, either Schweinsteiger is fit enough to start or Rode should start. We need a bit more energy in the middle with Alaba, Lahm and Martinez all injured.
That pass by Alonso to start the move leading to Lewandowski's miss 
It would also help with bridging the first line of pressing. We've had a lot of problems with that especially early in games. As great as Alonso is, he can be physically dominated so Rode would be an ideal partner, running people ragged himself and creating space for Alonso to operate.
The next game is at home against CSKA right? Alonso should get a rest for that game in my opinion. Start with Schweinsteiger, Rode and Hojbjerg or something like that.
Bundesliga pretty much seems to have figured out how to eliminate Alonso from the game.
Many teams playing in Munich sacrifice their attacking section to focus on defense - Leverkusen, as one of the more skilled teams did it to narrow down the midfield and did it quite well for most of the game. Also, they played pretty physical, haven't seen so many fouls conducted in a while, though few were on the nasty side.
They still managed to look dangerous on their counter attacks in half 1. The fast and precise way they executed some of them made me thikn they might have gotten more than 0 points had they dared to play more bravely, but that is a dangerous thing to do against even an "ordinary day in the office-mood" Bayern.
I liked the way Toprak/Spahic hept the box clean most of the time, and also Wendell, who looked pretty sharp.
Many teams playing in Munich sacrifice their attacking section to focus on defense - Leverkusen, as one of the more skilled teams did it to narrow down the midfield and did it quite well for most of the game. Also, they played pretty physical, haven't seen so many fouls conducted in a while, though few were on the nasty side.
They still managed to look dangerous on their counter attacks in half 1. The fast and precise way they executed some of them made me thikn they might have gotten more than 0 points had they dared to play more bravely, but that is a dangerous thing to do against even an "ordinary day in the office-mood" Bayern.
I liked the way Toprak/Spahic hept the box clean most of the time, and also Wendell, who looked pretty sharp.
We scored after a corner? The first one this season after 110 attempts. Ribery!!!
I've said it before, Rode deserves more playing time. He's been really good whenever he played.
His 100th goal in all competitions for your club as well!
His record at Bayern in full (using "strict" assists, per Opta definition, but I'll also denote the count under the "wider" Transfermarkt/Kicker criteria),
Ribéry 288 apps (246 starts; 22,059 mins), 100 goals (7 pen./5 FKs.), 106 assists (142 per Transfermarkt) -- 0.72 g+apg / a goal or assist roughly every 107 minutes.
For comparison's sake,
Robben 181 apps (147 starts; 13,298 mins), 97 goals (14 pen./5 FKs), 52 assists (65 per Transfermarkt) -- 0.82 g+apg / a goal or assist roughly every 89 minutes
T.Müller 275 apps (238 starts; 20,555 mins), 108 goals (13 pen./0 FKs), 68 assists (95 per Transfermarkt) -- 0.64 g+apg / a goal or assist roughly every 117 minutes
On a related note, 2008-09 is a ridiculously hard season to find online footage of when it comes to a lot of Bayern's league games.
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Would this be a red card in the EPL?
Would this be a red card in the EPL?
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It should be anywhere. What a stupid tackle.
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Whoa, blast from the past: Lucio, Ze Roberto, Sagnol, van Bommel, Toni, Klose - Legends
But Rensing, Podolski, Lell, Donovan, Ottl, Sosa, Oddo, Borowski, Breno - not exactly a legendary team
Hard to believe what became of it only 3 years later
It's better this way
Didn't show his studs yellow?
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Its actually hard to rate Langerak at the moment, especially when it comes to consistency. He is a very reliable number two and has delivered everytime they had to count on him. Very strong on the line with extremely good reflexes and strong composure with the ball on his foot and in the build up game. His air game is pretty average, but this is something he can improve with game time.
If he would be able to perform on a consistent level, I would rate him around Trapp´s current level and certainly above Leno and Zieler (both overrated IMO).
There seems to be a lot of faith by the officials in Langerak, because they publically backed him as future number one. I would like to see Klopp giving Langerak until the end of the season to prove himself. If he performs well, keep him as the Nr. 1 at least until 2016 (end of Weidenfeller´s contract) and then take a look at potential targets once more. By then I can see two names being high on their lists: Timo Horn and Loris Karius. Both GK´s with huge potential.
Van der Vaart is back! Great game from him again, his role as the number 8 suits him very well. And I'm especially happy for Cleber, already labelled as a flop by multiple papers and he scores the 1:0 and puts in an excellent defensive performance.
Overall we are improving, 3 home wins in a row now and we play much better football as well. Apart from the last few minutes we completely controlled the game and I think the win was well deserved. I have no idea why Mainz only started playing in the dying minutes but it really seemed like they didn't use all their energy or something.
Overall we are improving, 3 home wins in a row now and we play much better football as well. Apart from the last few minutes we completely controlled the game and I think the win was well deserved. I have no idea why Mainz only started playing in the dying minutes but it really seemed like they didn't use all their energy or something.
Given their position in the table and their problems overall we should doubt a top 7 finish(I dont that much but still) and Hannover is in that race.
Hell, there was talk about relegation and will they get place 10 and so on. That is all too much but Dortmund was and still is in big trouble league wise.
Nah, that's a definite red imo. The way he jumped into it he had absolutely no control of the tackle and was carrying a lot of momentum.
Threadmarks added. If there are any others you want adding to this thread of note, let me know.
I find it really difficult to judge Goalkeepers to be honest. On the line Langerak is great, without a doubt. Certainly better than Weidenfeller in active play as well. Is he as talented as Trapp? I am not sure about that.
Also his personality could be an issue. Calmness for a Goalkeeper is surely quite good, but he might be too calm which will be lacking intimidation in 1on1 situations.
So, Klopp axed Weidenfeller for good, it seems (or at least until after winter break, when Langerak will be unavailable due to international duties).
What do you guys make of it? On the one hand, Weidenfeller had some almost comical moments in this campaign. But he was hardly alone in that, so blaming him for the way things went would be a bit silly and Klopp is not a silly man.
Weide is an old-school keeper no doubt, but he changed his style significantly in the last couple of years. He also is one of the few grown men in this team of boys, and he is known to be outspoken internally, something father figure Klopp might not be happy with.
Rumours say major parts of the team are not unhappy with Klopps decision to favor Langerak, among them Hummels.
Might also be a typical case of "if things don't run smoothly, axe one of the strong guys to show you mean business" - would make sense as GK is one of the few positions Klopp has adequate backup for... so what do you think?
(btw i got a nerverattling "type ahead" when using the editor on this page of this thread of the 'caf - on other pages, it works smoothly. One of the animated GIFs?)
What do you guys make of it? On the one hand, Weidenfeller had some almost comical moments in this campaign. But he was hardly alone in that, so blaming him for the way things went would be a bit silly and Klopp is not a silly man.
Weide is an old-school keeper no doubt, but he changed his style significantly in the last couple of years. He also is one of the few grown men in this team of boys, and he is known to be outspoken internally, something father figure Klopp might not be happy with.
Rumours say major parts of the team are not unhappy with Klopps decision to favor Langerak, among them Hummels.
Might also be a typical case of "if things don't run smoothly, axe one of the strong guys to show you mean business" - would make sense as GK is one of the few positions Klopp has adequate backup for... so what do you think?
(btw i got a nerverattling "type ahead" when using the editor on this page of this thread of the 'caf - on other pages, it works smoothly. One of the animated GIFs?)
What the feck happened with Dortmund? 14pts out of 14 games?
I know that they're not in a good form, but feck me, I didn't think it was that bad
I know that they're not in a good form, but feck me, I didn't think it was that bad
I think it's the threadmarks that cause this issue, maybe in combination with the browser. It certainly makes the threads that have it choppy for me.
Weidenfeller has likely been an issue long before Niall added threadmarks.
I bolded the bit of his post I was replying to, smartarse.
Sounds like half the problem.I bolded the bit of his post I was replying to, smartarse.
Weidenfeller is far too bold.
I doubt that langerak has any significant future. The lad is 26 and has played only a couple of games during the last 4 years. Its a strong indication, that he isnt a worldbeater.
I agree with this part:
I agree with this part:
Well, i type, and the text appears a good 20 sec laterWhat's 'type ahead'?
Makes sense.
I removed the gifs on this and the previous page and it's fine now. They must have been massive.
I turned off threadmarks when the gifs were still there to be sure it was them and the page was still dog slow.
Not anymore.
And this is just what I meant, they had 2 opportunities to top the group against decent (but not great) opposition, but they manage to feck it up somehow. They played against a Benfica B-Team yesterday which had nothing to play for, but in the end they were lucky to get a draw.
I'm gonna make a bold prediction and say they'll draw one of Real/Barca/PSG and then get battered.
Not anymore.
And this is just what I meant, they had 2 opportunities to top the group against decent (but not great) opposition, but they manage to feck it up somehow. They played against a Benfica B-Team yesterday which had nothing to play for, but in the end they were lucky to get a draw.
I'm gonna make a bold prediction and say they'll draw one of Real/Barca/PSG and then get battered.
I couldn't watch the game last night but I wonder how HSV would fare if they were to play Benfica away from home. That was always going to be the toughest game of the group, despite Benfica underperforming. Leverkusen were very unlucky to lose against Monaco twice despite being by far better in both games. But fact is, they still made it out of the group stages again and there's no way they were favorites to get 1st place. Is it such an embarassment for Germany that Leverkusen only played 0-0 in Lisbon then?? How has Schalke done in the group stages?
Also, that's in no way a bold prediction to suggest they're probably going to go out now but I'm sure you know that. It's completely fine for a club like Leverkusen not to go further than the round of 16 if they're not in supernatural form don't you think? Anything else would be an overachievement.
Why bring my team into the discussion? We are miles away from being a CL team but that doesn't mean I can't form an opinion about Leverkusen.
And no Bayer should be able to beat Benfica comfortably, as I said they had nothing to play for at all and fielded a B-Team. In the group Benfica showed as well that they aren't world beaters by any means, after all they finished last for a reason.
I know that they were unlucky against Monaco but in the end it's their own fault, they should've beaten Monaco twice but simply didn't convert any of their chances. In my opinion Leverkusen should've topped the group no question, it was the weakest of all groups and you can bet in any other group Monaco would be nowhere near 1st place.
There's no point bringing in excuses, they were in a comfortable position after 4 match days but as I said before they have to do better in these kind of situations. They played terrible yesterday and could've easily lost their game.
Schalke has been awful as well but I mean they still advanced tonight right?
I know I was joking with my last sentence, Leverkusen can blame nobody but themselves for this though. And no I wouldn't call this overachieving at all, I have some Leverkusen fans who are all incredibly frustrated at the moment, and rightly so.
On a slightly different note, I really enjoyed listening to the songs you put up so far, keep it going!
Why bring my team into the discussion? We are miles away from being a CL team but that doesn't mean I can't form an opinion about Leverkusen.
And no Bayer should be able to beat Benfica comfortably, as I said they had nothing to play for at all and fielded a B-Team. In the group Benfica showed as well that they aren't world beaters by any means, after all they finished last for a reason.
I know that they were unlucky against Monaco but in the end it's their own fault, they should've beaten Monaco twice but simply didn't convert any of their chances. In my opinion Leverkusen should've topped the group no question, it was the weakest of all groups and you can bet in any other group Monaco would be nowhere near 1st place.
There's no point bringing in excuses, they were in a comfortable position after 4 match days but as I said before they have to do better in these kind of situations. They played terrible yesterday and could've easily lost their game.
Schalke has been awful as well but I mean they still advanced tonight right?
I know I was joking with my last sentence, Leverkusen can blame nobody but themselves for this though. And no I wouldn't call this overachieving at all, I have some Leverkusen fans who are all incredibly frustrated at the moment, and rightly so.
On a slightly different note, I really enjoyed listening to the songs you put up so far, keep it going!
Sorry, cant agree here. The CL has NO team where you can demand a win. Sure. A group win would have been nice and was very doable but not certain.
Bayer reached the CL KO round 3 seasons in a row now. In tough groups. A very good performance.
Did they fu** up against Barca,United and PSG? Hell yeah. But the club is doing a fine job overall. They invested big money in the summer and are 4th in the league, reached the later stages of cup and CL.
You dont want to become @Balu who is ruled by a strange hate for Bayer.
Not the best club in the world but one who does its job and helps German football(5 european points for the KO rounds and so on).
Leverkusen could have won this group with ease - but they did not. They bottled it atleast twice. And the same in the league. They have already lost more points than they should and apart from the first match against Dortmund they did not really play great. They looked like a big promise in the first matches - but could not hold that.
Why bring my team into the discussion? We are miles away from being a CL team but that doesn't mean I can't form an opinion about Leverkusen.
And no Bayer should be able to beat Benfica comfortably, as I said they had nothing to play for at all and fielded a B-Team. In the group Benfica showed as well that they aren't world beaters by any means, after all they finished last for a reason.
I know that they were unlucky against Monaco but in the end it's their own fault, they should've beaten Monaco twice but simply didn't convert any of their chances. In my opinion Leverkusen should've topped the group no question, it was the weakest of all groups and you can bet in any other group Monaco would be nowhere near 1st place.
There's no point bringing in excuses, they were in a comfortable position after 4 match days but as I said before they have to do better in these kind of situations. They played terrible yesterday and could've easily lost their game.
Schalke has been awful as well but I mean they still advanced tonight right?
I know I was joking with my last sentence, Leverkusen can blame nobody but themselves for this though. And no I wouldn't call this overachieving at all, I have some Leverkusen fans who are all incredibly frustrated at the moment, and rightly so.
On a slightly different note, I really enjoyed listening to the songs you put up so far, keep it going!
Thanks, really appreciate it.
I'm working on new music and I'm hoping I'll be able to release one or two new songs before christmas.In regards to the Leverkusen fans who are incredibly frustrated right now, I can see why they would be. But surely if somebody had told them ahead of the group stages that they're going to get 10 points from the games against Zenit and Benfica, they'd have taken that in a heartbeat. They had 2 matchballs to win the group but didn't take either one, of course they should be disappointed. But nonetheless overall they've performed well in the CL this season. The fact they didn't get results against Monaco doesn't change the football they've played. They've played well in all their games till last night. There's no neglecting the numbers Monaco and Zenit have spent on transfers in recent years. And as for Benfica, who've been in 2 consecutive EL finals fairly recently, until not too long they have been the club with the most members in the world. Leverkusen on the other hand can hardly sell out their 30000 seater stadium. At the moment it's probably very annoying that they blew it in those last two games but in the end they got to the round of 16 which was most likely their aim before the season.
After all I was criticizing how many people always point fingers at Leverkusen for "embarassing" Germany in Europe and I definitely stand by that. I'm struggling to feel embarassed seeing as Leverkusen is an either equally big or smaller club than all the other teams in their group and they've made it out of the group once again and have played exciting football while doing so.
Ask @Sly who he thinks has portrayed Germany better this year. Leverkusen or Schalke. Schalke, despite not being better, is a much bigger club if you ask me and has bigger possibilities than Leverkusen. They should be ashamed of the way they've played. 1 gift from the ref and one win against Maribor in 6 games. That's embarassing. By the way, I don't prefer either of the German CL clubs over the others and I don't hate any of them.