If you take Nunez and Rasmus and they both get 10 chances in a match, who is most likely to score?
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If you take Nunez and Rasmus and they both get 10 chances in a match, who is most likely to score?
First player I thought of was a prime Antonio Valencia.
When I say it's one of the most important metric, I don't mean it's the ONLY metric used.
But it is one of the most important metric to measure finishing ability, along with other stats like xG/shot, xG/goals, SOT%, G-xG, etc and if you want to further dissect you can go into average shot distance, shooting heatmaps, etc. There is no one statistic that tells the full story. But conversion rate is very likely one of the metric use in any multivariate analysis of a striker's quality, regardless of what type of model you want to use. In fact, I'd go as far to say, if you create an analytical model to measure the performance of a striker that does not take into account of their conversion rate (or any of its derivatives), your model should not be taken seriously.
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A striker with 15 shots to score 10 goals (0.66 conversion rate) is not a better finishing ability than a striker with 100 shots to score 50 goals (0.5 conversion rate). Higher conversion rate doesn’t make the striker a better finisher. There are still other factors to be considered.
All 5 of Haaland's goals in the CL this season were against 3 clubs Slovan Bratislava(1), Sparta Prague (2) and Feyenoord (2)
6 of Lewandowski's 7 goals in the CL have come against Young Boys (2), Red Star(2), Stade Brestois (2)
True sign of a good goal scoring striker is bagging braces against Championship level sides in Europe
Don't bother, Hojlund could bag 30 a season for us until he leaves and people will still hate him and moan about it, they can never get over that we signed him instead of Harry Kane
You ought to read the posts properly before answering.
I’m not sure where the complaint is. The guy is clearly very talented. I thought the goal against Pilzen where he turned and shot with his left was quality. He’s only 21 too! He’s certainly a much better goal-scorer than Zirkzee and he’s a much more natural finisher than Rashford. I’m not saying more competition at the forward position shouldn’t be brought in but i personally think the chances are good he becomes a very good player for us in the coming years.
Yes. Like I said, it's a multivariate analysis, I did not say it's the only metric used. I don't think I could have made it any clearer.
But any analytical model that attempts to measure finishing quality of a player simply cannot ignore conversion rate as one of it's metric, it is the one metric that is consistent used, thus being the most important one because of how widespread it is.
Again, before you reply thinking I meant to say we should ONLY be looking at conversion rate, I want to reiterate I am NOT saying that. We clear?
You guys need to go back to the original poster who posted only metric without looking at the bigger picture and other factors. What I’m trying to tell you is that the original poster posted only metric used without taking into other factors. Those metric from the original poster cannot be used to measure the quality of a striker without taking into other factors.
I am not disagreeing with you that other factors are required to holistically measure a striker's quality
I am disagreeing with you when you said conversion rate is not one of the important metric
Conversion rate is one of the most basal statistics that is used to form more advanced derivatives statistics.
It's literally just "How many goals you score? How many shots you took?" From there, do a bit of simple math and you'll get the conversion rate.
Anything can become important if they can be used. It’s not about the metric, it’s about how you use the metric.
Without considering other factors, it became meaningless, because you don’t use the metric properly. It lacks of context and bigger sample to compare. How can it be important if the metric become meaningless?
And the guy you originally replied actually said the right thing ‘’If only goals counted more if you take less shots to score them’’. Because the metric that was posted lacks of context and not considering other factors that can be involved.
if he did (which I doubt) it would be straight into defenders like a headless chicken
Man City 1:2 Man Utd
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Loved how he got in the face of Walker. About time we show some teeth in these matches
Rasmas should have been awarded a penalty. IMO he was unlucky that we only started trying the ball over the top after he went off.
That was a sublime pass he played for Bruno, which should have been an assist. Also should have gotten a penalty. Happy with his contributions today.
This. Guy has zero fear.
Kid has got fight in him. I’m confident he’ll come good in this system.
Struggled I think.
Apart from the penalty and assist he should have got of course....
Should have been given that penalty. Shocking decision not to award it. Should have got an assist, too. Thought he played well enough in his position from a goal-scoring sense, but we didn't really get into amazing shooting positions with him today.
For a second I thought you were talking about Bruno....
He had a couple decent moments but all in all he was easily managed.
Was decent I think
Battled hard, didn't get many chances in front of goal.
Just going to be tough for him to influence games until we get better pieces around him, because he’s not an all around striker type. Great pass for the Bruno sitter though
Should have got a penalty, should have had an assist. Battled hard. Was better at losing his marker today, but supply up front is woeful.
We will get better as time goes and he'll have more scoring chances once we get a more reliable attacking system going, so I'm not worried.
We will get better as time goes and he'll have more scoring chances once we get a more reliable attacking system going, so I'm not worried.
We really need someone in midfield that can and will pass the ball. There were countless times he had pulled off the defenders looking for a ball inbehind and we just kept recycling it. Outside of that felt like he played quite well. Should have been awarded a penalty and Bruno had to finish that chance he created.
Some good runs, some good hold up play, almost assist. SHould stay on his feet more and he wins penalty or scores a goal. But he's done well today to secure his palce as a first striker.
Was decent, didn’t get much service
Felt it was penalty.
He's pretty good at releasing the ball at the right time for a pass, underrated part of his game.
Did everything right to get a penalty. Had a good assist to Bruno.
He shouldn't defend corners. Again too casual in our penalty box just as he was against Arsenal. He didn't even jump on Gvardiol. Which is strange when you see how aggressive he is in opposite penalty box.
He shouldn't defend corners. Again too casual in our penalty box just as he was against Arsenal. He didn't even jump on Gvardiol. Which is strange when you see how aggressive he is in opposite penalty box.
Finally somebody who showed some hostility torwards City players during the match. Keano approves.
His hold up play as improved massively. Could of had an assist if Bruno finished
Just like during 2nd goal vs Plzen, some good body work with shielding the ball.
To be fair on the corner Dalot had the position and if Rasmus jumps he risks a collision. Of course he should have known Dalot would miss the ball anyway because Dalot…
He isn’t the best defending set pieces though so in general yes he needs to work on that part of his game.