7 goals in 22 appearances is hardly outstanding
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 24
- Goals
- 7
- Assists
- 1
- Yellow cards
- 1
United is blessed with having so many players to whom the word “legend” is appropriately assigned. Cole is a close call.
He had 7 goals in 8 appearances in 2023!
If he suits counter attacking he should join Leicster but I doubt he’d be able to displace Vardy.
This guy is a big problem. Villa got two strikers John.D and O.Watkins both are better than this guy. Crystal Palace got Mateta who is better than this guy. Westham got Fulkrug who is also better than this guy. Everton got Calvert Lewin injuries aside who is also better than this guy. The list goes on we cannot afford him more time. We need more than all this lack of service talk we need contribution to the play atleast.
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Seems to always get pushed off and struggled to hold up play. I know Arsenal CB’s were strong but Zirkzee managed to get some result.
It’s the theme of the season, think we’ll be in for a striker and him as a squad rotation or future starter if he grows into the role. Young player and all but we’ve been ripped off again!
It’s the theme of the season, think we’ll be in for a striker and him as a squad rotation or future starter if he grows into the role. Young player and all but we’ve been ripped off again!
Zirkzee is way better player and should be a starter or backup for new striker.
Absolutely brilliant take, keep at it
Ok. Zirkzee offers at least something, Hojlund offers nothing. Better?
It's wild that you've watched both of them have poor seasons so far and decided one could be way better than the other.
The problem we have is all previous matches have shown this just isn't true, they've both been having stinkers all season, predominantly when they start. Zirkzee came on and did brilliantly today when he had the chance, ergo he should start the next match, if for no other reason than Hojlund has been starting the last few. But we've been here before..
Hojlund doesn't have a great game, Zirkzee is subbed on and does pretty well.
Zirkzee then starts and has a stinker, subbed off for Hojlund who does pretty well as a sub.
It's rinse repeat. For now I would say that Zirkzee should start and hope the cycle doesn't keep going
Not really, it's still a ridiculous take. Hojlund was our top goalscorer last season and has shown he can be a lethal finisher when on form, whereas Zirkzee has shown he is Fellaini without the matchwinning goals.
And before you say he won with his penalty, that's not the same.
He is young but he looks DESTROYED at 60th minute mark every time he plays.
It's so weird he can't last a game. No matter the opposition, he is struggling to get a breath in, every time we get into the final quarter of games.
It's just weird.
It's so weird he can't last a game. No matter the opposition, he is struggling to get a breath in, every time we get into the final quarter of games.
It's just weird.
Actually think Hojlund improved after the break, especially with that one play where he did Saliba. But I definitely think Zirkzee is just a more talented player and offers us more in terms of hold up play and link up. Hojlunds main use is work rate and having some pace to be a minor threat in behind, but he hasn't really been using it.
Time to give Zirkzee a proper run as a starter I think.
Time to give Zirkzee a proper run as a starter I think.
He scored a penalty. Otherwise wasnt dangerous at all. Its time we get a ready striker who can score goals.
Unfortunately his performance today was subpar.
We just can't function with a striker who has a touch as poor as that.
Hojlund seems to actively seek out physical battles he can't win. Its weird
I've been a Rasmus supporter from day one and now, on the back of a lonely battle up top at The Emirates and Anfield is not the time to judge but we need another striker, don't we? Some nice moments today but not enough. Never enough.
He may not have been outstanding today, but he definitely showed some improvement compared to the game against Liverpool. We have a easier schedule ahead, let's hope he can find the back of the net in the upcoming fixtures, especially since he tends to perform better against weaker opponents.
That Fellaini comparison is lazy as it goes. Both are tall and with big hair. And that is it.
I am talking about talent here.
Hojlund struggles to control the ball. You could see that multiple times today. Zirkzee's ball control is very good. Zirkzee's hold up play is also way better than Hojlund's. He is better in air than Hojlund. He has better dribble and technique than Hojlund.
Neither is good for starting striker but between those two, Zirkzee is a keeper.
He is what he is. We all know we need a first choice striker by now, and we'll get one, whether that be this month or in the summer
They are both equally shite and it's sad for us.
Played well after the break, held the ball up and brought others into the game and made some nice runs including the one to make the space for Bruno on the goal. I hope after doing the hard yards at Anfield and the Emirates that he gets the chance to start at Southampton.
Zirkzee had a couple of pieces of link up that led to poor shots from himself so I think that's unfair. But, as I said in the match day thread, the balls into both strikers were generally poor and they struggled to keep it.
His hold up play and battling with the CBs was far better than Hojlunds and actually helped us play out a few times. That's what puts him ahead. Yes we need a goalscorer but if your striker can't even control the ball or hold it up for your team to come out, then you can't even get in the position to create chances.
I don't want Højlund to start games either. We need a new striker
Disappointing performance. Team didn't help him launching so many balls vaguely in his direction but the one time he did manage to hold up the ball really stood out as so often he lost possession too easily. Lack of understanding between him and team-mates is a big problem, both inside the penalty area and in the build-up phase.
That number 9 role in this system asks a LOT of the player, and he doesn't quite look up to it at the moment.
Let's see, our attack in general needs a bit of a rejig. Don't think we need to do anything drastic like go sign in Jan but we should be keeping an eye out for CF targets in case someone really good emerges.
I think a #10, LWB and maybe a midfielder or two to replace Eriksen / Casemiro are higher priority than replacing Hojlund and Zirkzee.
I think a #10, LWB and maybe a midfielder or two to replace Eriksen / Casemiro are higher priority than replacing Hojlund and Zirkzee.
I don’t think I’ve rated him higher than 3 for any match against English opposition since Brentford on 19 October. Every match I assume he will be dropped and every match he’s there again for 70+ minutes, looking completely out of his depth. Zirkzee deserves the chance to lead the line against Southampton.
Should be moved on immediately.
Not good enough and never will be.
Not good enough and never will be.
Zikrzee has had a number of good games. Away at Southampton, home to Everton for example.
Hojlund has started 2x as many games as Zirkzee and he cost 2x as much. He's also not a new signing.
I mean we can look at how they performed in Italy when it comes to dribbles per game/ progressive passing/chances created etc etc. Zirkzee was considerably better.
There's no metric I can see which indicates Hojlund is a better player unless you project and think because he's younger he will improve more. But currently it's not even close.
Zirkzee had more touches/made more dribbles/won more headers than Hojlund today and he got subbed on after 80mins with United down to 10.
In reality his game is only about goals. Even in games when he scored he was also useless in general play. For example, against Plzen he had awful first half but managed to score two goals.
His type of player must score basically every game to cover for not being involved in general play.
His type of player must score basically every game to cover for not being involved in general play.
He's unfortunately looking totally lost. Gone backwards.
I've defended him in the past and he could still turn out to be a great striker as many world class strikers of his profile turned out to be late bloomers, and Hojlund has the ability to score goals if opportunity presents itself.
But unfortunately right now we don't really have the time to wonder if he's gonna have that breakout season; he's simply not doing enough to justify his position in the starting 11 right now. It's not good when I have to keep thinking what someone like Gyokeres could've done instead.
But unfortunately right now we don't really have the time to wonder if he's gonna have that breakout season; he's simply not doing enough to justify his position in the starting 11 right now. It's not good when I have to keep thinking what someone like Gyokeres could've done instead.
To be fair, not much he could do from the bench.
He needs to get involved in play more. He hides and just tries to fight CBs.
. I was thinking about Bodo game.He was better today than against Liverpool, touch and passing was more secure. The problem is that a good game for him in that aspect is just doing the absolute basics of the game correctly, which should be a given, but he often finds very hard. Even a touch were he does not lose the ball can need 2/3 touches more than are really necessary, by which point progressive options are limited.
Zirkzee has much more ability on the ball, but lacks the energy and dynamism needed for this league.
Zirkzee has much more ability on the ball, but lacks the energy and dynamism needed for this league.