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That is rubbish, the pass was not on. I just watched that attack now, he mad a shit run.Because he would have had a hattrick if Amad hadnt have refused to pass to him
That is rubbish, the pass was not on. I just watched that attack now, he mad a shit run.Because he would have had a hattrick if Amad hadnt have refused to pass to him
That is rubbish, the pass was not on. I just watched that attack now, he mad a shit run.
Nope, go back and watch it, no angles to make that pass. Shortly after Hojlund made a mess of another attack. Why is Garnacho and Amad not mad at him? He should take a chill pillIt was absolutely on for anybody above park level, I think your previously demonstrated bias is affecting your vision here.
I actually like Mount as part of that front 3, I think his pressing and energy adds a lot of control to our game. Excluding the defence I'd set up...Hojlund, Amad, and Bruno as a front three should get playing time together. Garnacho a very frequently used sub. Mount, Zirkzee, and Rashford are clearly second string based on performances and have a lot to prove.
I actually like Mount as part of that front 3, I think his pressing and energy adds a lot of control to our game. Excluding the defence I'd set up...
Hojlund
Mount Amad
Bruno Ugarte
Think that has a bit of everything and gets players close together that seems to thrive off each other.
With that sort of logic no one's ever allowed to demand more from anyone unless they're Messi.What is Hojlund berating Amad for ? All the attack that he has broken down, he has no right to berate Amad
That is rubbish, the pass was not on. I just watched that attack now, he mad a shit run.
Do you hate the guy or something? So weirdNope, go back and watch it, no angles to make that pass. Shortly after Hojlund made a mess of another attack. Why is Garnacho and Amad not mad at him? He should take a chill pill
Nope, go back and watch it, no angles to make that pass. Shortly after Hojlund made a mess of another attack. Why is Garnacho and Amad not mad at him? He should take a chill pill
He really needs to start taking penalties for us. If he wants to be a proper #9, almost all of them take pens and star pad their goal records with several penalties a season. Players like Rooney wasn’t even particularly exceptional at them, but they helped him chase down many records. Harry Kane PK’d his way past Bobby Charlton for England over the last few years too.
Also, the habit of putting the ball in the net is a healthy one for a centre forward.
Weird to see people complaining about him having a good at Amad.
Players should express themselves on the pitch instead of acting like robots.
Thankfully Amorim agrees with you and not them.
I think the point that really needs to stick is that we rarely get to see a very young, non-prodigious striker go through their growing pains and incremental development as the lead striker at a giant club. In fact, it's rare for such players to have even made a big move yet.The second goal was quality, won us the game, I've my doubts about his all round play but hopefully he proves me wrong on the long run.
But why? We have Bruno, and Bruno is at 55/61 career ratio with penalties (90.2% conversion for club and country).He really needs to start taking penalties for us. If he wants to be a proper #9, almost all of them take pens and star pad their goal records with several penalties a season.
He's young and a bit of patience is required but when you play for Man United a lot is required and hopefully he'll learn to sort out his touch, passing and movements (both towards the ball and into space), he's shown he can finish, he's quick and strong. Let's wait and see, usually the strikers who become elite are already showing it by 23-25. He's a few years away from that stage and as a club we're a few years away from properly competing. Time we'll tell.I think the point that really needs to stick is that we rarely get to see a very young, non-prodigious striker go through their growing pains and incremental development as the lead striker at a giant club. In fact, it's rare for such players to have even made a big move yet.
They are usually showing glimpses of their talent at this age, whilst honing all the things they aren't good at and sharpening them to a fine point for the eventual big club move they'll typically make at an older age than Rasmus is now.
So two things are anomalous here: 1. That he is here as the main man at his age, and not as an understudy to a mature, leading striker; 2. That the entire world is witnessing his every mistake and flaw under the most intense spotlight.
Compare him to young strikers of his own age who are touted but not considered prodigies, and he is in a very different predicament and exposure level. Benjamin Šeško is a perfect example of a more normal and structured trajectory - someone who is touted and expected to make it big in the future, whom we hear and see when he does something impressive, but for the most part, he is developing in peace, away from the cameras and spotlight - his every flaw is not on display for the entire world to scrutinise on a game-by-game basis.
It's really vital that players like Hojlund have a good or great coach get their hands on them early and develop their game - actively steering him down the right path and working on all the flaws until they are ironed out; it doesn't seem to be a coincidence that we're seeing an upturn in Hojlund since Amorim has started working with him. He still makes a lot of fundamental errors, but at least he is more preoccupied with what he should be doing than what he shouldn't, which is an essential foundational building block.
As the type of talent that he is, Hojlund is going to continue to make mistakes and be a frustrating player to watch, but what is also likely is we continue to see glimpses and flashes of what might be there in the future once his game is tuned and honed to a fine point. In the interim, the ups and downs are, and should be, a given. They are part of the process of learning. So long as people remember the fact he has to go through this under an intense spotlight is down to the club not having a bona fide, goalscoring striker taking the majority of the eyes and scrutiny off Hojlund in the first place, a happier medium can be struck.
What also compounds matters here is that we have raw, underdeveloped players all bumbling along and learning together. Like a bunch of puppies finding their feet in the world. Normally at the biggest clubs, maybe one or two are raw, but they are being corralled along by finished articles who are extremely corrective simply by way of being there; our lot have no guide and all learning on the job, which is going to create even bigger bottlenecks and blunders, as we saw when the collective completely flubbed about three breakaway chances to score last night by poor timing, understanding and those streaks of selfishness that older pros are there to forcibly remove, typically.
This is a very good post. The only thing I will add is that he might actually develop faster than most think due to his mentality and mindset - which are what often determines whether or not promising talents make it to the top. He’s hard working, hungry for learning, a team player, confident and positive. That’s quite a rare combination, I think.I think the point that really needs to stick is that we rarely get to see a very young, non-prodigious striker go through their growing pains and incremental development as the lead striker at a giant club. In fact, it's rare for such players to have even made a big move yet.
They are usually showing glimpses of their talent at this age, whilst honing all the things they aren't good at and sharpening them to a fine point for the eventual big club move they'll typically make at an older age than Rasmus is now.
So two things are anomalous here: 1. That he is here as the main man at his age, and not as an understudy to a mature, leading striker; 2. That the entire world is witnessing his every mistake and flaw under the most intense spotlight.
Compare him to young strikers of his own age who are touted but not considered prodigies, and he is in a very different predicament and exposure level. Benjamin Šeško is a perfect example of a more normal and structured trajectory - someone who is touted and expected to make it big in the future, whom we hear and see when he does something impressive, but for the most part, he is developing in peace, away from the cameras and spotlight - his every flaw is not on display for the entire world to scrutinise on a game-by-game basis.
It's really vital that players like Hojlund have a good or great coach get their hands on them early and develop their game - actively steering him down the right path and working on all the flaws until they are ironed out; it doesn't seem to be a coincidence that we're seeing an upturn in Hojlund since Amorim has started working with him. He still makes a lot of fundamental errors, but at least he is more preoccupied with what he should be doing than what he shouldn't, which is an essential foundational building block.
As the type of talent that he is, Hojlund is going to continue to make mistakes and be a frustrating player to watch, but what is also likely is we continue to see glimpses and flashes of what might be there in the future once his game is tuned and honed to a fine point. In the interim, the ups and downs are, and should be, a given. They are part of the process of learning. So long as people remember the fact he has to go through this under an intense spotlight is down to the club not having a bona fide, goalscoring striker taking the majority of the eyes and scrutiny off Hojlund in the first place, a happier medium can be struck.
What also compounds matters here is that we have raw, underdeveloped players all bumbling along and learning together. Like a bunch of puppies finding their feet in the world. Normally at the biggest clubs, maybe one or two are raw, but they are being corralled along by finished articles who are extremely corrective simply by way of being there; our lot have no guide and all learning on the job, which is going to create even bigger bottlenecks and blunders, as we saw when the collective completely flubbed about three breakaway chances to score last night by poor timing, understanding and those streaks of selfishness that older pros are there to forcibly remove, typically.
He really needs to start taking penalties for us. If he wants to be a proper #9, almost all of them take pens and star pad their goal records with several penalties a season. Players like Rooney wasn’t even particularly exceptional at them, but they helped him chase down many records. Harry Kane PK’d his way past Bobby Charlton for England over the last few years too.
Also, the habit of putting the ball in the net is a healthy one for a centre forward.
That's not a given. He probably will be a decent penalty taker, but that's clearly not something that any club will be willing to experiment with while having one of the most reliable and experienced penalty takers around.If Hojlund is the most clinical shots per goal ratio striker then shouldnt his penalties be good also?
He really needs to start taking penalties for us. If he wants to be a proper #9, almost all of them take pens and star pad their goal records with several penalties a season. Players like Rooney wasn’t even particularly exceptional at them, but they helped him chase down many records. Harry Kane PK’d his way past Bobby Charlton for England over the last few years too.
Also, the habit of putting the ball in the net is a healthy one for a centre forward.
9 of his 23 goals for us have been in 5 games against Newport County, Galatasaray, Copenhagen, Bodo and Plizen. He’s definitely good enough at that level. Can he produce that form against top quality opposition? He will clearly start on Sunday now and we need a big performance from him.
Was it Hull or someone that Suarez did crazy stat padding again?That's the same situation for pretty much any competent forward. They all stat pad against lower level opposition. He also scored against Bayern, Spurs, Newcastle, Villa, Porto and Brighton so it's not like he doesn't have the ability. Everytime you see some striker with a 30 goals season at least 10-12 of those goals are scored against much weaker teams.
Norwich seemed to be a free hat trick for him.Was it Hull or someone that Suarez did crazy stat padding again?
Was it Hull or someone that Suarez did crazy stat padding again?
So if we don’t create chances, what difference is an experienced striker going to make? I’ve never understood this argument considering Hojlunds conversion rateHe's a great second choice striker but I still believe that we need a more experienced no. 9 who is a clinical finisher, since we don't exactly create a bucket load of chances.