Exactly. The trophies are not fecking meaningless.
Erik ten Hag | 2024/25 | Votes can now be changed
- Thread starter Cheimoon
- Start date
You make your own luck in this game and it starts with playing well and putting the game out of sight, before you open yourself up to any potential incorrect decision.
Being ‘unlucky’ and ‘injuries’ are not valid excuses at this point; the league table doesn’t lie and is the absolute reflection of where we are. Perhaps we have to drop further to the bottom 3 for INEOS to take some positive action or do we need to start a Go Fund me page to contribute to ETH’s severance?
No other big club would be wearing this and it is now getting embarrassing.
Being ‘unlucky’ and ‘injuries’ are not valid excuses at this point; the league table doesn’t lie and is the absolute reflection of where we are. Perhaps we have to drop further to the bottom 3 for INEOS to take some positive action or do we need to start a Go Fund me page to contribute to ETH’s severance?
No other big club would be wearing this and it is now getting embarrassing.
I feel with LVG his management was more augmented towards a longer-term approach, the team had a defined philosophy that wasn't without fault but it was more stable of a foundation to build from compared to Erik.
Under Erik's tenure the team has played a marginally different style at the infancy of each season, none bearing any fruit that the manager or team can hang their hats on.
Given the finances allocated, subjectively, I have Erik as the second worst manager United have hired behind Moyes.
It's now at a point where we have to discredit his achievements with Ajax because nothing he's done in his career has any feasibility of being transferable to where he is currently residing with this United team.
I mean if many on here disregarded Flick's period with Bayern then it's even more nonsensical to suggest that Erik's achievements with Ajax bring any credibility to what he's capable of at United.
No particular reason. I just felt we were so bloodless and insipid a few days ago that it clicked on me that the proverbial bread has finally gone stale -- that there is nothing he can do to make us a better side.
I did this over a year ago, but unfortunately I still have to see all the replies which dominate the page
That is the concern. At no point has he seemingly realised the standard required and so he's built an, at best, Europa League standard squad and the club doubling down on him in the summer means we've bought players of that calibre.
A coach who has a clearer vision and the communicative skills to drill it into the players might get us closer to a fringe top 4 side but that's the best we can hope for now regardless of manager. I would imagine that we won't have another permanent manager this season so it's either Ten Hag or an interim until the summer but then a new coach and the people above him have a huge task because Ten Hag has created a mess of a club that has forgotten what it means to actually be good.
In the Premier League it's 17 wins in 43 matches.
We’ve become an absolute gimme for any team in the league now under this manager. Disgusting.
Time is up now. It has to be. Surely?
I can slightly understand the logic of 'we might get worse under an interim' after Rangnick but honestly we have to do something, we're already close to rock bottom.
Funny because half his posts in this thread are him crying about people picking on him yet here he is trying to fan the flames.
For what reason are you glad he will get more time?
If we don't start seeing some rumours or leaks from Twitter, I'm losing my last hope.
I've no more energy to give. It's a matter of when and not if. The league season is over, we won't be getting top five. Let's hope the interim manager who comes in eventually can rescue the Europa League campaign.
It's meaningless in the grand scheme of things as it did absolutely nothing to our progress as a football team. It almost hindered us as it was enough reason to keep this clown.
Pretty much a quarter of the season
Don't want to be negative or anything and I know it's still only late October but I don't think we're going to win the EPL this season.
Prepare to be disappointed.
Granted not his fault today, players missed a host of chances but they are his players!!
Go now please
Go now please
I wouldn't even bother mate, he's blatantly just trying to wind others up, and gets away with it. Nobody serious could post what he does.
Because he's a troll who should have been threadbanned from ETH threads about 1000 posts ago.
They’re happily clapping him off match after match regardless of the result.
Yet some will tell us they’re supporting the club. It must mean Madrid fans are not true supporters because they don’t tolerate shit performances.
Jokes how if we finish 8th this season, it’ll almost be impressive from our current position.
Get fecking rid, we can’t hang about.
Get fecking rid, we can’t hang about.
Our sleepy joe is so timid, I would take fine but drag the referees and var through the dirt to make an example, it’s like a big decision going against utd every week, referees taking the piss here
You're absolutely kidding yourself if you think there's going to be a chunk of cash to spend in January. They don't even want to spend (or haven't got) the money to sack Ten Hag
Are you having a laugh? Did you watch the second half?
He’s been doing it since last season. He posts more when it gets this bad
Pretty much anyone should be able to do better than this, 1 win in 8, no wins in Europe for 12 months and 14th in the league nearly quarter of way through the season.
If an interim by some disaster somehow managed to be even worse then they get sacked as well.
Ah fair enough thought he was being serious
I agree there has to be equilibrium in winning while objectively having some form of incremental progress.
You can't have a diabolical league campaign underacheiving across every performance metric, turn up at cup games and anticipate being heralded for achievements.
I would take three seasons of consistent top four finishes over winning a cup at the expense of league form. Because if that was hypothetically achieved this thread wouldn't have gone past the 300 page mark.
Domestic cup success is extremely relative under the circumstances.
This is it, it has be to. He's getting fired.
I can feel it down in my plums.
I can feel it down in my plums.
Don't feed the troll
He's doing better than ETH, not that the manager of CP is the benchmark. Who was saying he should replace ETH?
Here's the secret that Madrid and a few other clubs have figured out: you're allowed to sack and replace interim managers if they're shit as well
Fat Sam is out there
Especially as they discussed it during the break
It was time up for ETH some weeks ago. But, Ashworth and co don’t seem to have the appetite to change the manager. I know that people have said that we played some alright stuff today but it’s another defeat and it will be again next week or the week after or both. It’s scary to see how far we have to fall before they pull the trigger.
I’ll give you a clue, it’s both.
Is there anyone here who genuinely believes he will be sacked before Leicester on Wednesday?
I can’t see any justification keeping him. But also can’t see him being sacked
I can’t see any justification keeping him. But also can’t see him being sacked