Do you see the pattern why we lose shit under pressure against everyone? The man himself can’t handle the pressure. He’s talking nonsense and blaming everyone but himself for so long. Neither had the charisma or the cojones to manage such a big club abit like Moyes but somehow he fooled everyone and now his incompetence is out in the open. He’s the worst manager we’ve ever had. Absolutely taking us to the cleaners.
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A Liverpool fans opinion on Ten Hag… we are a joke club for keeping him this long.
That post is fecking deluded. "Says all the right things" and "not quite shit enough to get fired"... errrrrr what?
His praise should be for the ownership. He’s done more than enough to get fired at pretty much any other club in the worldA Liverpool fans opinion on Ten Hag… we are a joke club for keeping him this long.
How can any professional manager, let alone that of a top club, be allowed to get away with this kind of drivel to the press?
Zero accountability whatsoever for the shambolic performance against Spurs even before the red card. And just take your hands off upon red card? What kind of message does this send to the team?
On top of us being ‘hard to beat’ from our draws. Doesn’t sound like a manager under pressure.
From being supposedly in the bracket of clubs like Madrid and Barcelona to now where we would be lucky to grab points against West Ham. Our standards are in the drain, our manager is allowed to take the piss. Once Ineos has identified the next manager, he needs to go asap even if we somehow win our next 10 games or another trophy
Zero accountability whatsoever for the shambolic performance against Spurs even before the red card. And just take your hands off upon red card? What kind of message does this send to the team?
On top of us being ‘hard to beat’ from our draws. Doesn’t sound like a manager under pressure.
From being supposedly in the bracket of clubs like Madrid and Barcelona to now where we would be lucky to grab points against West Ham. Our standards are in the drain, our manager is allowed to take the piss. Once Ineos has identified the next manager, he needs to go asap even if we somehow win our next 10 games or another trophy
Secretly I think Ten Hag will be extremely thankful for that unjust red card against spurs
We’d have probably lost 3-0 anyway with the way we were playing. But that red gave him the perfect excuse and probably kept his job going
He is shit despite also being very lucky. Even his good first season was heavily dependent on Rashford turning scrappy performances into tight wins and Cas having 3-4 golden months.
The injuries were the best thing that happened to him last season, allowed him and the equally deluded to pretend that the amateur set up and inane tactics were somehow not his fault. FFS, before the season even started 80% of the forum knew that Bruno, Mount and Cas could not work, the season was already going to pot before the injuries really became a factor, but get the excuses in and hope that people bite on them.
The injuries were the best thing that happened to him last season, allowed him and the equally deluded to pretend that the amateur set up and inane tactics were somehow not his fault. FFS, before the season even started 80% of the forum knew that Bruno, Mount and Cas could not work, the season was already going to pot before the injuries really became a factor, but get the excuses in and hope that people bite on them.
It’s clearly his defensive mechanism. If he could apply to the actual team, we might actually fair better than we do.
High achievers are often belligerent, believing in their methods beyond anything, point is we shouldn’t even be seeing this schism; he should have had his platform removed many, many times over.
Nobody is going to walk out on their pay off.
The collective sadness is the whole situation and how everything is in disarray. Again. Fanbase might as well have REM playing Everybody Hurts on loop with how miserable things are. I more pity ETH than feel sad for him. It’s humiliating now.
United on the financial end have to finish in the top 4. That has to be the goal or it will be very restrictive in forward movement with players next season.
Once he gets binned finally, all the clowns within the football department who backed him to turn it around and prolonged the inevitable should also be binned.
Yeah the post is an absolute mess. He's literally done enough to be sacked multiple times over by now.
Stop with the OTT, vulgar insults towards manager and staff. This is a family friendly thread and it will not be tolerated.
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People, this is a family friendly site, open to all ages. The open insults to the manager and whatever else must observe that. I’ve just deleted a post @giggs-beckham and this is an ongoing discussion as to what should and should not be permitted in these tense and stressful times, but you all know to self-censor bearing in mind this is not the General and what you write has to have a degree of civility.
Don’t get yourself warnings for something as trite as petty, OTT insults. It will be clamped down upon for the reason stated.
Don’t get yourself warnings for something as trite as petty, OTT insults. It will be clamped down upon for the reason stated.
You can’t build anything on top of garbage football.
He hasn't been sacked, so with our current incompetent upper management, he clearly has not done enough.
He’s an incredible, meticulous tactician, and a harsh disciplinarian on top of being a serial winner. The only way he can lose is when his players let him down or don’t understand the instructions.
Exactly, the minute we move on from ten Hag (which I still think is 2-3 years away from now) we will immediately shift onto different brand of football because nobody wins anything playing the way we do. It’s fine sticking with certain style if it has proven to be successful, not when it has repeatedly failed.
It's often said but managers do also resign from jobs quite often.
Do you have some examples for quite often?
Well exactly, we are 10th best in the league for points from a losing position. That's top half!
What if you formulate the insult hypothetically? "Let's say, for the sake of argument, that Ezza actually is an utter *******, should we not then kick this **** out as soon as possible?"
But, no - seriously. I understand. This isn't X - and everyone on here should appreciate that fact.
I promise to keep my own language...civil-ish.
(Good luck on enforcing this, though - people are pretty pissed off at the moment.)
Agreed.
Sometimes wonder if we all tried not using ‘C’ and ‘F’ words for a week or so ….don’t think it’d kill anyone to make a few changes?
This is reaching a tipping point where his reputation is being damaged on a global scale; the rumoured £10m-£17m pay off may well be his cover for not getting another gig of any standing again. There’s no chance in hell he walks away from that.
The ire and frustration are completely understandable, but forgetting where you are is not on. We’re receiving complaints towards the language and I get it. You don’t want youngsters etc. absorbing that kind of toxicity.
I think there’s quite a difference between ETH is a *** to flagrantly using expletives or expletive laden posts.
To be fair, these are extremely trying times and it’s not like the FF is overflowing with this stuff, but ETH himself has a very toxic reserve as he is seen as the epicentre of our troubles, but it can’t be that way on a public forum open to all ages.
His reputation is going to be in absolute tatters when he finally gets the boot.
Despite all this, I have no doubt some club will take a punt on him. Not exactly Barcelona but some decent sized club in Europe will feel desperate and see the exciting manager from Ajax who won 2 trophies at Man Utd.
When they meet with him and he talks like everything he touches always turns to gold they will see it as confidence. I have absolutely no doubt. He may even get the Dutch national job.
If United were hanging around 4th-6th place then I could give the manager more leeway, but any argument simply falls apart when you look at the league table and see that United have been a few points above or below 10th place for months and months now.
But I have to believe that INEOS are just taking the patient approach and come next season a new manager will be in place.
But I have to believe that INEOS are just taking the patient approach and come next season a new manager will be in place.
Or don't respect him. Forget the past, he my have been those things at Ajax, but this is a totally different league. The fact is you win games scoring goals. United are not scoring goals and as such are not winning games. ETH has to change that with his tactics and execution. This is done in training and I do not see forward movement here. He chose the majority of players he has and as such is totally culpable for the team today. As a coach, when things are not going to plan you need to make changes and simplify things. I think the guy is a smart cookie, but he doesn't read and react properly. Couple that with a seeming stubborn personality and you end up running in sand which is exactly what this team is doing. The fact he has a midfield with an avg age of 32 yrs shows the limited outlook he has. His hiring was a mistake.
I can't believe he's blaming injuries again. The worrying thing is there's so many idiots that actually believe every word he says so will continue to use that excuse when defending him, we had almost a fully fit squad up until a few weeks ago. I mean every single team in the world has injuries throughout the season? This is so painful I never thought I'd feel this amount of hatred towards someone I don't even know personally, it's crazy how arrogant he is there's no way he's so unaware of how he's coming across, I don't believe he's that stupid. Proper winding everyone up at this point.
Honestly hope West Ham put 6 past us on Sunday, only for Moyes to run out onto the pitch at full time, give Erik his P45, stick his fingers up at him and proceed to Stone Cold stunner him through all of their fecking bubble blowing machines
Honestly hope West Ham put 6 past us on Sunday, only for Moyes to run out onto the pitch at full time, give Erik his P45, stick his fingers up at him and proceed to Stone Cold stunner him through all of their fecking bubble blowing machines
Clubs Manchester United has won against this season:
Fulham
Barnsley
10 men Southampton
Brentford
Fulham
Barnsley
10 men Southampton
Brentford
Still remember the time everyone was praising him when he ran with the team over 14 Kms after being outrun by the same distance by Brentford.
Imagine if he kept that up, we’d have a team of triathletes.
Imagine if he kept that up, we’d have a team of triathletes.
Do you think they’ll offer him a new contract then?
It’s probably this stance that causes so many muscular injuries within the squad.
Don’t get what’s his thinking behind team selections are. Casemiro as been in form this season and gets dropped. Same with Hojlund, Amad wins player of the month and gets dropped. Clueless
You’ve made some posts with oddly realistic sentences last couple of days, but thinking we’ve got 2-3 years of Ten Hag is just bollocks, that even you doing your glass half empty gimmick can’t actually believe.
A Liverpool fans opinion on Ten Hag… we are a joke club for keeping him this long.
This is what the new minority owners have reduced us to in just 8 or 9 months, we are the laughing stock of the league and quite possibly Europe now
The list of @Valencia Shin Cross sums it up quite well. Maybe I’d substitute Rojo and Bailly for Maguire and Lindelof, although I’m certainly no great fan of the latter two. Pogba and Martial were also big let downs (relative to the expectations on signing), although being merely disappointing rather than disastrous does not get you into the MUFC post-Fergie hall of shame.
Yeah it's ridiculous. There's absolutely no way he sees out a 6 year tenure ffs. Barely any managers in world football do, and he certainly won't be one of them.
Remember oppos desperate for us to keep Jose and singing Ole's at the wheel. This happens to us every single time. We're an absolute fecking meme.
If that was the criteria, they would've sacked him last season, no?
A Liverpool supporter winding up Utd fans by having a go at ETH. Wow there’s a surpriseA Liverpool fans opinion on Ten Hag… we are a joke club for keeping him this long.
I get what you're saying in terms of why he wouldn't walk away from the pay off, but it's worth pointing out that it's his own fault if his reputation takes a battering. He could've and should've been sacked multiple times over, but he's been given opportunities most managers in his position simply wouldn't get to rectify the situation.