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Season could be derailed due to injuries
Derailed, what was it before the injuries? Get this pretender out
Season could be derailed due to injuries
But the whole world does see this. It's mainly a portion of our fanbase and also a lot of the match going fans that don't.It is just an excuse to hide his incompetence. Inhuries or no injuries, we are galaxies away from where we want to be
Injuries are a blessing for him, otherwise the world would see that he is a fraud
Season could be derailed due to injuries
I actually can't stand him any more - does anyone even like him? The guy is a complete fraud.
No charisma, blames everyone but himself, team playing some of the worst football in recent memory, what a sorry state of affairs.
****.
Don't be so precious.This constant childish moaning by the armchair internet fans about the match goers should really stop.
Didn't say that, was just saying nobody else besides him is responsible for the very complaints that he hasDo you think I’m defending Ten Hag? I feel like you have to state you’re not in every post you make in here now or you get circled by a gang of hyenas.
Nice of them to keep it local.Love that they always have to be "secret talks". INEOS hire staff from MI6
Seriously? Because of boring football?I felt the same with Lvg, he complete broke my love of football. Recovered somewhat under Ole but never really been the same for me. Now I don’t really care if I miss a match
I agree - Moyes didn’t even finish the season and didn’t blow the transfer budget. Even Fellaini, who got a lot of stick from the fans, was a great signing compared to the likes of Antony. It was miserable but all over quickly and (we thought) all salvageable under the next manager. And, to be fair to Moyes, he can at least manage at Premier League level. I dread to think how low Ten Hag could take a club that don’t have a United transfer and wages budget.Moyes felt like the end of the world at the time because we were so used to Ferguson and had just won a PL title.
In hindsight, Moyes was given Fellaini as his only major summer signing. He only got to manage Mata for a dozen or so games.
Moyes didn't do much actual damage in terms of recruitment and player sales. Shaw and Herrera were deals put in place while he was still manager. Fellaini and Mata both became useful players for LvG.
I never thought United would have as bad a season as that again. But ten Hag somehow surpassed it with an 8th place finish, negative GD, European exit before Christmas, and 19 defeats across all competitions. Moyes only lost 15 games and did manage to top his CL group.
ten Hag has had a run of 20 months of very poor form. Unprecedented. New bad records every few games.
Im not the only one that fell out of love with football after watching sideways and backwards playingSeriously? Because of boring football?
Because in truth, only under Lvg we had clear style of play. Also him as a person and his press conf were good to watch.
Well, just my opinion. I liked the guy very much.
Honestly it's not too far removed from the "logic" that many used all of last season, where any loss was quickly hand-waved away as a result of individual mistakes and our players missing easy chances.How long until he just starts "rejecting" any game we don't win and claiming a 100% win record.
Another glaring difference, nobody wanted Moyes, but everybody wanted Ten hag. Be careful what you wish for guysI agree - Moyes didn’t even finish the season and didn’t blow the transfer budget. Even Fellaini, who got a lot of stick from the fans, was a great signing compared to the likes of Antony. It was miserable but all over quickly and (we thought) all salvageable under the next manager. And, to be fair to Moyes, he can at least manage at Premier League level. I dread to think how low Ten Hag could take a club that don’t have a United transfer and wages budget.
Geez are we calling Fellaini a great signing and Moyes a good enough manager for us now? I mean I get that ETH is kicking us while we're down but let's not kid ourselves and make Moyes into some kind of unsung hero who had his time cut short here.I agree - Moyes didn’t even finish the season and didn’t blow the transfer budget. Even Fellaini, who got a lot of stick from the fans, was a great signing compared to the likes of Antony. It was miserable but all over quickly and (we thought) all salvageable under the next manager. And, to be fair to Moyes, he can at least manage at Premier League level. I dread to think how low Ten Hag could take a club that don’t have a United transfer and wages budget.
The only fact here is that it's BS, they recently held a board meeting and no journalist could even determine if they even discussed ETH's job, let alone find out they've talked to peopleI remember seeing a report in the summer that INEOS were fans of Xavi but he was taking a break from football. The fact they’ve now held discussions with him in Barcelona could mean there’s something in this and he could be pretty high up their list.
Ineos don't care about performances. If they do, he would be sacked this summer. Results? I struggle to understand what results they rate as positive. Seems to me that they are happy with draw away, win at home form.My impression is that INEOS will have lost faith in him but given the more favourable run of fixtures they have given him this block of 7 games before the next international break to save his job.
In terms of what he has to do in this period to keep his job my view would be:
3 wins or less, sacked.
5 wins or more, keeps his job.
4 wins and it depends on the context and performances.
I've never disliked a United manager like him before. I actually kinda hate him.I actually can't stand him any more - does anyone even like him? The guy is a complete fraud.
No charisma, blames everyone but himself, team playing some of the worst football in recent memory, what a sorry state of affairs.
****.
Same was said for the Porto and Aston Villa games and then the Brentford gameHe’s got two games to save his job I guess.
Yes and the real cracks appeared right after the League Cup final.Narrow wins which could have gone either way and a Rashford purple patch.
All the signs were there but some of us got called all sorts of names for pointing out we weren't that good.
He’s got results in all of these. Now it’s West Ham and Leicester. Two games. Save job.Same was said for the Porto and Aston Villa games and then the Brentford game
Jesus, one giant echo chamber in here… where art thou “The 418”?
Is there any single argument that remains to keep Ten Hag?
I’m actually really interested to see what a decent manager would do with DeLigt, Martinez, Garnacho, Mainoo, Mazraoui, Ugarte, Shaw and Hojlund.
There is a lot of complaining here (as there should be) about the first 11, the tactics, his deluded post match interviews, etc.
I’d like to point out though:
1. We still have a hard time playing through the high press. Several giveaways and horrible positioning.
2. We literally have no high press. Zirkzee and Mazraoui had absolutely no idea where to go, how to press, what the triggers were…. A fecking mess. Garnacho and Rashford were too far back. I think he just told them “It’s Fenerbace fellas, they’ve got too much quality” and completely removed it from the game plan.
3. We absolutely do not know how to position ourselves defensively. Recovery runs are into the wrong areas… such a fecking mess.
4. Patterns of play still not visible.
31 months in charge. 600m spent. 12th in the table, negative goal difference. 1 wins in 11 from Europe. XG / XGa / XGd awful.
Didn’t we go a whole month without scoring a goalSeriously? Because of boring football?
Because in truth, only under Lvg we had clear style of play. Also him as a person and his press conf were good to watch.
Well, just my opinion. I liked the guy very much.
That was some mass weirdness on here that I don't think I'll ever wrap my head around. A season of absolute dross - remember the Champions League "campaign", the capitulations, even to Coventry, languishing in 8th, the horrible performances, open holes in midfield, weird selections and subs, thrashings, EtH blaming everything but himself?But the whole world does see this. It's mainly a portion of our fanbase and also a lot of the match going fans that don't.
Literally every single person I talk to who isn't a United fan is completely baffled as to how he's still here. To be fair, most United fans now share the sentiment too I'd say. But the difference is, the others had the same opinion after the FA-cup final. The reaction to that final by a good portion of the fan base was embarrassing. Being happy and celebrating the win is one thing, but calling anyone who still wanted him out 'toxic' or what not was just beyond me.