How did we deserve to win, it took some heroic defending to keep them from scoring in the first half, before the double save!
We deserved nothing, we were so cowardly and bad, it felt like playing Real Madrid away.
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How did we deserve to win, it took some heroic defending to keep them from scoring in the first half, before the double save!
We deserved nothing, we were so cowardly and bad, it felt like playing Real Madrid away.
I've genuinely tried to tune out for the last month or so. Like watch the game but while also doing something else. So boring and atrocious to watch with no clear direction. Shocking.
All I see is we’ve lost only 1 in 7 and that was when we were unfairly down to 10 men. Hard to beat.this is now considered an uptick in form:
The last drop of Varane and Casemiro before they fully declined.
Oh I think he's been there for a while now.
He's spent the last few months trying to frame last season, easily the worst season I've ever seen as a Utd fan, as a success because we won the FA Cup. I think he's now decided that standards are so low he can just avoid defeat in most games and he'll be fine. Occasionally win one every 5 or 6 games and that's enough.
this is now considered an uptick in form:
That draw against Palace wasn't any old draw though. We had 45 minutes of being prime Brazil.
Just get rid and stop this being so painful. It’s inevitable. So get it done.
That + Rashford’s spectacular season and most of our top 4 opponents having an off season.
fecking hell remember the reaction after that game?
A 0-0 draw against a clearly dreadful Crystal Palace and there were people on here jumping up and down in delight at how amazing we were! It was 45 decent minutes against a really shite struggling side where we still didn't score. And then 2nd half it was even and they probably should have nicked it, they created the better chances.
That is probably the best example of how low standards now are.
Standards have plummeted and there's no sign of improvement. I just listened to a bit of Talk of the Devils podcast and Carl Anka mirrors my thoughts on watching us play.
We're just a team of nothingness plodding along to the next fixture, rinse and repeat.
We're just a team of nothingness plodding along to the next fixture, rinse and repeat.
The reaction was absolutely bonkers.
Pretty much all our decent league finishes post-Fergie have only come when other top 4 teams had a-bit of a mare.
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I think the inevitableness of this makes it so much worse. We know he’s not the one, it’s clear he’s not turning this around to make us actually anywhere close to what is required, and yet it’s dragging on and on.
An interim is far from ideal, but they can’t do any worse, and if they do, they’re simply only a placeholder.
An interim is far from ideal, but they can’t do any worse, and if they do, they’re simply only a placeholder.
There was a time when I at least had hope that your posts wouldn't line up so accurately with reality
Underlying stats had us down in 6th.
https://understat.com/league/EPL/2022
But you weren't allowed to point that out on here. Not having your head buried deep in the sand was just too much negativity.
I've been eerily accurate about his fate for the last 6 to 12 months, one must admit.There was a time when I at least had hope that your posts wouldn't line up so accurately with reality
I am almost certain he will remain our coach until end of season and think it's more likely than not that we will start next season also with him in charge.
I'd say we've just replaced it with more. £600m spent and no improvement to the attack at all being the main problem.
We’ve dropped from champions league to europa league and now struggling there too. We’ve gone from trying to say Copenhagen and Galatasaray are incredibly difficult fixtures for us to having no wins in the Europa but it shows we are hard to beat?!
Literally drifting to mediocrity to such a degree that a 2-1 home win to Brentford feels like a massive result.
He's exceeded him for me
It was insane. Feel like I've been banging my head off the wall for years about poor standards and should just accept / be happy for tiny fluctuations when we play like a functioning team without, you know, scoring any actual goals.
A far cry from the “all eras come to an end” and “good is not good enough” stuff he was saying when he first walked through the door. Those standards have went out the window now.
Ineos don't appear to be very competent
He's setting the bar lower. The way he talks about our performances and results, you'd think he was managing a newly promoted club facing financial difficulties.
It's a very tedious wum.
It may be down to finance, a big pay off, less at the end of the season I would think, new manager availability, the one they're after is currently in a job, final chance for Ten Hag to get his signings in the team and playing well, that remains to be seen, not convinced so far.
I don't get why they don't just pull the trigger now even if it's only Ruud as an interim. Ten Hag has nothing about him and it has been clear for at least a year now.
The lack of ambition last night was totally exasperating. We had the opportunity to try something a bit different last night in Fernandes' absence, either pairing Zirkzee and Hojlund together or playing Amad behind the striker and his solution is to play a full-back there. At what point does the self loathing end for the club?
The lack of ambition last night was totally exasperating. We had the opportunity to try something a bit different last night in Fernandes' absence, either pairing Zirkzee and Hojlund together or playing Amad behind the striker and his solution is to play a full-back there. At what point does the self loathing end for the club?
Even he knows that if he says that now, he will have to fire himself.
Playing Mazaroui at 10 was disrespectful and a slap in the face of the attacking talent in the squad. Genuinely how could that possibly be good for morale to see that sort of tactical decision made? How can any of them feel truly believed in. It’s just woeful management.
He's hardly been wrong tbf. It's an obvious caricature, but the club has genuinely done exactly that
I think the only reason the players haven't turned against him is because the squad is mostly his players who wouldnt be playing at a major club if it wasnt for him.
Totally agree.
I don't mind a manager trying players in different positions but everything about the Mazraoui thing was illogical and it proceeded to not work.
Firstly he's spent all season having Dalot play in midfield, sticking him next to Ugarte and Eriksen at 10 would have made more sense.
Secondly we only have 2 full backs anyway so probably don't piss around with them.
Finally once he did decide to play him there, Mazraoui looked visibly confused about what he should be doing. If you're going to play Fabio and John O'Shea in midfield then you should make sure they have been drilled to know exactly what to do in there.
Firstly he's spent all season having Dalot play in midfield, sticking him next to Ugarte and Eriksen at 10 would have made more sense.
Secondly we only have 2 full backs anyway so probably don't piss around with them.
Finally once he did decide to play him there, Mazraoui looked visibly confused about what he should be doing. If you're going to play Fabio and John O'Shea in midfield then you should make sure they have been drilled to know exactly what to do in there.
The way he sets up this team is mind blowing. Finally we had the chance to try a setup without Bruno, and he would not have it! So intensively infuriating.
There's 3 potential 10s beside Bruno, but no way, let's ensure this fails by putting a right back there.
Get out
There's 3 potential 10s beside Bruno, but no way, let's ensure this fails by putting a right back there.
Get out
The season is at 25% and it's 98% over for us already, with the current situation we are just playing for the sake of it.
Give it to Ruud, or give it to anyone really at this point, a change is usually for the best in these circumstances. It is hard to believe the board is that void of ideas and can't identify anyone as a decent replacement.
I wonder of Ten Hag blackmails them with something, maybe he has some x rated tapes with them, who knows.
Thats the spirit.
the board can then congratulate him offer him a big fat rise and another 5 years on his contract.
I am so so fed up of both ETH and United at this point. I've supported since I was a kid, with my first memories of the 1984 season. I have never felt this dispondant about the team, to the point that I am actually skipping watching matches as they just annoy me so much - when I saw no Amad, Mas at 10, no left back, Anothony coming on for 4 minutes... and ETH saying that he didn't want to play 4 attckers in Europe due to the atmosphere. WTF.
I don't understand the squad and signings (and lack there of), the team plan and stucture, the in game tactics and management, and also the off field management with INEOS/Glazers etc.
Really, ETH is a clown and should have been sacked a year ago. I don't know what magic powers he has, or what dirt he has on INEOS, but this is embarrassing at this point.
I don't understand the squad and signings (and lack there of), the team plan and stucture, the in game tactics and management, and also the off field management with INEOS/Glazers etc.
Really, ETH is a clown and should have been sacked a year ago. I don't know what magic powers he has, or what dirt he has on INEOS, but this is embarrassing at this point.
It was a tough one too after the world cup. Few Rashford sneaky goals, Casemiro headers, and Varane and Martinez playing like goblins at the back
Narrow wins which could have gone either way and a Rashford purple patch.
All the signs were there but some of us got called all sorts of names for pointing out we weren't that good.
At this point I'm more interested in the International break than looking forward to United games. feck this bald cnut.