Bundesliga, DFB Cup, and other Bundesliga business 2014/2015
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Scored another now. 3-4.
3:4.... Dost.
Balu you fecking prophet!
Balu you fecking prophet!
I'm awesome. I'm the anti-rob. I should start betting on football games.
3:5... Dost assist
The feck, why didn't Dost score that one himself 
3:5 .................
That should be your tag line.Haha excellent, been following Wolfsburg since '97. The Touch of Dost strikes again!
Thank you Bas Dost
3-5 now.
But it probably was offside...
Dost Boot!
Wolfsburg are last seasons Hoffenheim, goals galore!
It's another edition of the Dost show with highlights from the rest of the games
That's exactly the kind of hybris that will destroy you. Heed my words: There's a Rob from Essex in all of us.
Surely its "Bas Boot" because the original is Das boot?
To be fair to them, besides those two insane high scoring games (Leverkusen and Bremen), they have a very good defensive record. Hoffenheim conceded 70 goals in 34 games last season and scored 72. That was beyond incredibly. Wolfsburg at the moment has only conceded 27 goals in 23 games.
In the end of the season Bas will give the Golden Dost to either Messi or Ronaldo.
3-5 for Wolfsburg? What the hell is going on here?
Or the Bassoon d'Orst.
Remarkable effort. Not as good as his goals but i´ll give you a typical Dost lanky dribble sprint
That's terrible.
Sorry... I'm really sorry...
You aren't what you;re @Crackers up to be are you? That was a very bas pun indeed...
Yeah you're right on that one, their attack is brilliant and generally they can defend too. Wow them figures are staggering 72 goals scored and not in the European spots is incredible. This Wolfsburg team better than the title winning one? Dost or Grafite
So this is how Raphael Honigstein begins an article on football: "It took 77 nervous minutes of frenetic, clumsy fumbling to get it in, as well as bit of masked role play and submissive assistance".
Is this guy for real?
Is this guy for real?
That guy annoys me to no end.
Yeah easily. That Wolfsburg side was the worst Bundesliga winning team ever in my opinion. The league overall is much much stronger now than it was in the second half of the noughties.Yeah you're right on that one, their attack is brilliant and generally they can defend too. Wow them figures are staggering 72 goals scored and not in the European spots is incredible. This Wolfsburg team better than the title winning one? Dost or Grafite
I said it several times on here already but I will gladly do it again: I have no idea how Honigstein got his somewhat positive reputation in England. The guy has never broken a news as first, which turned out as legit. He has never shed any additional insight in a topic regarding the Bundesliga, which was not done in a better manner by his German counter parts beforehand. All this guy does, is use the work of the actual sports journalists in Germany and translate it to English. Even his writing style is pretty mediocre.
At the end of the day the guy is for me nothing more than a slightly better version of the Google translator, someone who simply got lucky that the English media lacked any good "experts" on German football when the hype around the Bundesliga started.
I especially love how he will gladly participate in nonsense speculation when a media bandwagon comes around just to jump ship after a week and declare that nothing is certain yet (when there was nothing to go with at all from the beginning). Then he'll produce some lazily researched opta-stats and repeat some sentiments from other journalists and hey presto: We got ourselves an expert.
Ha I'd thought you'd say that, hopefully the current team makes a big impact in the Champs next season.
Didn't he even indirectly admit to making shit up when that Kroos to Dortmund rumour he was trying to sell suddenly (and very surprisingly) turned out to be a troll from a fan forum?
To me that guy is the personification of most things that are wrong with the sports media today.
Gundogan is amazing. On this form he's up there with the very best midfielders in ther game. Let's get the chequebook out.
Honigstein has a very good reputation outside of Germany, so it's surprising that so many on here are critical of him. But they would know him better so fair enough, I will be less inclined to believe what he says now.
In top form this is certainly true, but he is not there yet. He is on a good way, his flashes of brillance becoming more and more frequent, but still nowhere near where he was before his injury. He used to be one of the best midfielders in terms of pressing resistancy, which is now even a weakness of his. He still plays too many dangerous missplaced passes and holds onto the ball too long, losing it in dangerous areas in the process. In the first season half these things led to quite a few conceded goals. The difference now is, that he has a partner who manages to bail him out most of the time.
Nuri Sahin is currently not only the better performing midfielder but also the more important one. IMO the most underrated starter by neutrals and Dortmund fans. This has mostly to do with his (changed) play style. He is less flashy and elegant, worse in terms of dribbling and key passing compared to Gündogan. He is way better defensively, though. His positioning and tackling behaviour (both on the ground and in the air) are second only to Bender in the team, who is in turn way more limited in his passing and technique. Sahin is the player who brings the most amount of balance, structure and organisation to the team and his return to the team after his long injury was one of the major game changers for Dortmund. On top of that he is an undisputed lead player and managed to take charge after the other lead players (Weidenfeller, Kehl, Hummels) failed to do so due to lack of form or fitness.
In the end a player, whose importance really shows when he is not on the pitch. Kinda similar to Pool´s Henderson in that regard.
Honigstein´s reputation in england is way over the top, but he also isnt worse than other sports "journalists". In-depth analysis of matches or the organisational side of the game arent popular with mainstream readers. Writers have to work with fairly superficial facts (e.g. results, opta-stats) and rumours to fill the pages. At least the guys who publish several articles per week have to work this way. Honigstein does exactly that and he is doing a decent round up about the Bundesliga.
Not that surprising IMO. The people who are mostly critical with him are just closer to German sports journalism. While Honigstein has made some hilarious claims in the past, some of the stuff he writes has some truth in it. It is simply copied from German sources, though. As long as what he writes about stuff which appeared in German papers (the "Kicker" for example) one or two days before, you can accept that with a pinch of salt. It is when he begins "analysing" on his own, you are better off ignoring it. The guy simply does not have much clue about German football on his own.
This works both ways, though. I don´t trust any "expert" in the German media who talks about football in EPL. Most of the opinions by the quality posters on here are usually way more worth than that. It is one of the reasons why I came to the Café in the first place.