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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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The Gerronwivit brigade think it will all be over on 30th March not realising that it would be only the very beginning in renegotiating everything with the rest of the world and moreover dealing with the fallout and consequences of that for years and years to come.
 
I dont think she will accept that... I think if parliament takes control she paints it as remain MP's against the will of the people and calls a general election (which she will fight on basically that point alone)

I think Corbyn and the official labour position probably has to vote for the GE as well given how long hes called for it

I just feel she would rather go out kicking and screaming (though hoping to secure a workable majority) than have parliament take control

She cannot just call a general election. If parliament is taking control they can also stop her calling an election as long as they have more than 1/3 the house supporting. Labour might say, let parliament take control and let's have an election afterwards. That is the price for our support. Could suit Corbyn nicely.
 
It's kinda scary that even after 2 1/2 years, still such a high proportion of the public remain completely uneducated on Brexit, what the different options mean and the impacts they'll have.

Sky have a poll where 26% of people who voted think "No Deal" Brexit means staying in the EU, crazy.
 
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The GFA is an internationally binding treaty registered with the UN. It can't be unilaterally altered by one party so the whole idea is a non-starter. I literally can't believe Downing Street don't know that so their denial rings true.
 
The GFA is an internationally binding treaty registered with the UN. It can't be unilaterally altered by one party so the whole idea is a non-starter. I literally can't believe Downing Street don't know that so their denial rings true.

Comes across as a leaked false proposal put out there to distract and make the actual proposal appear more legitimate.
 
Were people always that ignorant ? If folks that have lived through the 70s can comment on that...

Yes.
Difference then was that people weren't bombarded by social media which seem to have a strong influence on how people think but they also had less experience of the outside world.
 
Comes across as a leaked false proposal put out there to distract and make the actual proposal appear more legitimate.

Or in number 10 they are completely desperate and scrambling for any crumbs of hope...

Given how the rest of these negotiations have gone I'm going for that. Fairly sure there isn't another actual proposal. Hope for the best maybe?
 
Donald Tusk, the European council president, has claimed that David Cameron told him he thought he would never have to hold the referendum he promised because the Lib Dems would block it.
In an interview for a BBC documentary, ‘Inside Europe: Ten Years of Turmoil’, the first episode of which goes out a week today, Tusk said:

I asked David Cameron, ‘Why did you decide on this referendum, this – it’s so dangerous, so even stupid, you know,’ and, he told me - and I was really amazed and even shocked - that the only reason was his own party, [He told me] he felt really safe, because he thought at the same time that there’s no risk of a referendum, because, his coalition partner, the Liberals, would block this idea of a referendum. But then, surprisingly, he won and there was no coalition partner. So paradoxically David Cameron became the real victim of his own victory.

#Facepalm
 
#Facepalm

See my initial reaction to stuff like this is that it's massive news that will damage reputations....then i remember most of the UK live in wilful ignore when it comes to the Tory party so it's nothing news in effect.
 
May will seek a deal that would please Tories and the DUP. As such she is seeking to reopen the GFA.
 
She cannot just call a general election. If parliament is taking control they can also stop her calling an election as long as they have more than 1/3 the house supporting. Labour might say, let parliament take control and let's have an election afterwards. That is the price for our support. Could suit Corbyn nicely.
well except then May would not then call a general election - so if Corbyn wants an election he would have to grab the opportunity now
 
May says she expects MPs to reject calls for second referendum
Second, says May, some MPs have argued for a second referendum.

She says this would undermine trust in politics. Article 50 would have to be extended. And she says holding one could undermine social cohesion.

As if there's any trust in politics now anyway. She's delusional.
 
Mrs May's fashion sense is more of a shambles than Brexit.
*flounces off, clutching fan*
 
I don't get it, we can't have a hard border between North & South Ireland, but we can have one between France (i.e. Europe) and England.

Am I missing something, but why is free movement over the Irish border more important than free movement between main land Europe and the UK?
 
I don't get it, we can't have a hard border between North & South Ireland, but we can have one between France (i.e. Europe) and England.

Am I missing something, but why is free movement over the Irish border more important than free movement between main land Europe and the UK?

A hard border between the UK and France will also be a disaster but for different reasons
 
I often wonder whether May's categorical refusal of a 2nd referendum is just a ruse to eventually have a better way of selling it to the people who voted for and believe in Brexit. But as the exit date keeps coming closer and closer it's looking more and more like the whole thing really is such a hopeless stalemate of idiocy and personal ambitions of politicians.
 
May: Well I'm not going to be the first to propose a 2nd referendum

Corbyn: Well I'm not going to be the first to propose a 2nd referendum

May: Well I'm not going to be the first to propose a 2nd referendum

Corbyn: Well I'm not going to be the first to propose a 2nd referendum

May: Well I'm not going to be the first to propose a 2nd referendum

Corbyn: Well I'm not going to be the first to propose a 2nd referendum

May: My deal?

Corbyn: No deal.

May: No deal?

Corbyn: No way.

May: Well I'm not going to be the first to propose a 2nd referendum

Corbyn: Well I'm not going to be the first to propose a 2nd referendum

May: Well I'm not going to be the first to propose a 2nd referendum

Corbyn: Well I'm not going to be the first to propose a 2nd referendum

May: Well I'm not going to be the first to propose a 2nd referendum

Corbyn: Well I'm not going to be the first to propose a 2nd referendum
 
I don't get it, we can't have a hard border between North & South Ireland, but we can have one between France (i.e. Europe) and England.

Am I missing something, but why is free movement over the Irish border more important than free movement between main land Europe and the UK?

Did you miss the whole Troubles thing?
 
I don't get it, we can't have a hard border between North & South Ireland, but we can have one between France (i.e. Europe) and England.

Am I missing something, but why is free movement over the Irish border more important than free movement between main land Europe and the UK?
I don't recall France and the UK having over 30 years of armed conflict and bombings and murders in the 20th century.
 
May: Well I'm not going to be the first to propose a 2nd referendum

Corbyn: Well I'm not going to be the first to propose a 2nd referendum

May: Well I'm not going to be the first to propose a 2nd referendum

Corbyn: Well I'm not going to be the first to propose a 2nd referendum

May: Well I'm not going to be the first to propose a 2nd referendum

Corbyn: Well I'm not going to be the first to propose a 2nd referendum

May: My deal?

Corbyn: No deal.

May: No deal?

Corbyn: No way.

May: Well I'm not going to be the first to propose a 2nd referendum

Corbyn: Well I'm not going to be the first to propose a 2nd referendum

May: Well I'm not going to be the first to propose a 2nd referendum

Corbyn: Well I'm not going to be the first to propose a 2nd referendum

May: Well I'm not going to be the first to propose a 2nd referendum

Corbyn: Well I'm not going to be the first to propose a 2nd referendum
Painfully apt.