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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?

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Nigel Farage in the Telegraph: 'If Theresa May buckles and delays Brexit, I will do my best to tear her party limb from limb.'
 
SteveJ said:
Nigel Farage in the Telegraph: 'If Theresa May buckles and delays Brexit, I will do my best to tear her party limb from limb.'
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:lol: Is she supposed to listen to a guy that struggled to organise a worthwhile march the other day?
 
My current take:

If the government ends up in a situation where they have to "choose" between No Deal and revoking A50, then their only actual option is the latter. The former is effectively illegal in all sorts of ways (for the foreseeable future).

May should be gone. I doubt anything would change but for her to still be PM is becoming an insult to everyone involved.
 
Mihajlovic said:
Theresa May’s ‘people’ consist only of the 17.4m leave voters from June 2016. There are seemingly no other ‘people’ in the entire country.
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This was also my thought. If we had all been of the same mind, we wouldn't be disagreeing now.

It really needs saying more often - only a minority of the eligible voting population actually chose Brexit. Nearly as many voted the other way and a large number of people saw it as a complete non-issue and didn't bother voting. That means only a minority want change.

The huge danger with referendums is that the zealous minority can impose its will on the rest of the country. If you want something different to the status quo you'll vote for it every time, given the chance.
 
RK said:
My current take:

If the government ends up in a situation where they have to "choose" between No Deal and revoking A50, then their only actual option is the latter. The former is effectively illegal in all sorts of ways (for the foreseeable future).

May should be gone. I doubt anything would change but for her to still be PM is becoming an insult to everyone involved.
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How is No Deal illegal if it's the default position?
 
Mihajlovic said:
I’m doing business and financial planning for one of the NHS transformation programmes. Got our budget slashed a month ago, now a further reduction (‘efficiency saving’) shaved off another third of the money. People in the office joking don’t worry, BoJo will send us bags of cash on the day after 29 March. The whole situation is shocking and comical at the same time. Ultimately it’s the patients that will suffer. Not that TM gives two shits about that.

Which area you doing the contingency planning for?
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HMRC.

It's comical, as our various plans to implement once a decision is made means so much short termism.

The engagement levels with staff across the department is already one of the lowest in the public sector, and this is only going to make it worse when people are applying for generic jobs, and placed in areas that don't yet have a plan of action - because the potential policy changes are yet to be considered.
 
SteveJ said:
Wes Streeting MP:
I’ve thought long and hard before saying this, but theresa_may knows that MPs across the House are subjected to death threats - some very credible. Her speech was incendiary and irresponsible. If any harm comes to any of us, she will have to accept her share of responsibility.

Luke Pollard MP:
I agree Wes. It’s not just MPs but all those who work tirelessly for MPs who are now at greater risk because of the dangerous words chosen by the PM tonight.
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If any harm comes to any if you it will be because of the behaviour of the majority of MPs. The history of expense fiddling, voting down anything that might be good for society but poor for your bank balance, for being a bunch of elitist self serving self entitled, arrogant, fecking clowns who are in politics for yourselves and what you can get rather than to serve.
 
Sparky_Hughes said:
If any harm comes to any if you it will be because of the behaviour of the majority of MPs. The history of expense fiddling, voting down anything that might be good for society but poor for your bank balance, for being a bunch of elitist self serving self entitled, arrogant, fecking clowns who are in politics for yourselves and what you can get rather than to serve.
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Oh... Is that what happened to Jo Cox then?
 
Sparky_Hughes said:
If any harm comes to any if you it will be because of the behaviour of the majority of MPs. The history of expense fiddling, voting down anything that might be good for society but poor for your bank balance, for being a bunch of elitist self serving self entitled, arrogant, fecking clowns who are in politics for yourselves and what you can get rather than to serve.
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May needs to remember that MPs are selected to make judgements on behalf of all their constituents, that includes all those that didn't vote in the ref. They're not there to just do what they're told by an opinion poll otherwise she should take note of her own constituency voting remain.

One poll the other week showed only 14% thought Mays deal delivered on what was voted on.
 
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Her determination to remain as PM no matter what is disgusting. Just fecking go.
 
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We're a fecking laughing stock, a complete joke of a country, run by wankers and filled with bitter little people. What a farce.

No deal, shit deal, have another vote on the deal, none of it matters, the damage is already done. Just get out and be done with it, because this is beyond funny.
 
Adisa said:
Her deterninadete to remain as PM no matter what is disgusting. Just fecking go.
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I genuinely think there is more to it than her ego and legacy. There’s string pulling going on there somewhere. She’s gone from being a remainer to steering us into the perfect storm for no deal.
 
He was a right wing twat bag who was off his rocker, and I'm 100% not condoning violence or threats against anyone, apologies if it came across that way, I'm just sick to the back teeth of these self serving cnuts always blaming everyone for everything other than themselves. Not a single one of them has any sense of self awareness, or accountability, it's about time they were reminded they are our servants, not our masters.
 
Guardian said:
It emerged on Wednesday that ministers had banned NHS hospitals from publishing risk assessments about how Brexit might affect them, allegedly because doing so could “put public wellbeing at risk”.

The Department of Health and Social Care has written to NHS trusts in England telling them not to put into the public domain their own analyses of the pitfalls facing them.

The department’s “advice” stops trusts from outlining how Britain’s departure from the EU might affect their non-clinical goods and services and staff from EU nations.

The move appears to be an attempt to thwart an attempt by the Health Service Journal website to obtain details of these possible impacts.

The HSJ disclosed on Wednesday that the DHSC has circulated guidance to trusts about how to respond to any request from it under freedom of information laws for sight of their risk assessment documents, telling them they must “not share this information”.
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Nicola Sturgeon:
Of course, the logic of Theresa May’s assertion that Parliament’s indecision is frustrating the will of the people is to put the issue back to the people and let them decide. If she is confident that the people back her, what’s stopping her?
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NinjaFletch said:
It's back up now.

Probably just a shitload of people trying to access it when they started work.
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The problem with these petitions (I think) is they accept signatures from outside of the UK and end up being hijacked; if you look at the petition data (which, funnily enough, is currently unavailable) you will see signatures from places like Brazil. At least I did last night. You get a better picture of the amount of British signatures from the map.
 
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Green_Red said:
"We've asked you the question already and you gave us your answer, now... you want us to get on with it"... but let's push this deal I've been given by the EU through the Houses of Parliament for a third time because they don't mind voting on the same thing three times...

She's a moron! Honestly how does someone like her get into the PMs position?
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I believe its called the 'Peter Principle', which states …"that eventually people get promoted to the level of their incompetence" or something similar. Theresa is perhaps a good example of that Principle?
 
That'sHernandez said:
The problem with these petitions (I think) is they accept signatures from outside of the UK and end up being hijacked; if you look at the petition data (which, funnily enough, is currently unavailable) you will see signatures from places like Brazil. At least I did last night. You get a better picture of the amount of British signatures from the map.
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Oh there's more problems with them than just that, but it takes about 20 seconds to do. Even given the utter futility of the petitions in general, it's not that much of a waste of time.
 
Pexbo said:
I genuinely think there is more to it than her ego and legacy. There’s string pulling going on there somewhere. She’s gone from being a remainer to steering us into the perfect storm for no deal.
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She is he most xenophobic home sec we've had in recent history .I struggle to bekiebe she was a real remainer.
 
NinjaFletch said:
Oh there's more problems with them than just that, but it takes about 20 seconds to do. Even given the utter futility of the petitions in general, it's not that much of a waste of time.
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True. It just disappoints me when I realise that the number on the petition isn’t actually representative of anything. It takes away from the legitimacy of the people who signed it in good faith.
 
That'sHernandez said:
True. It just disappoints me when I realise that the number on the petition isn’t actually representative of anything. It takes away from the legitimacy of the people who signed it in good faith.
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Is that where they've voted from rather than nationality though? They could very well still be british citizens living abroad
 
Maticmaker said:
I believe its called the 'Peter Principle', which states …"that eventually people get promoted to the level of their incompetence" or something similar. Theresa is perhaps a good example of that Principle?
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For it to be a true Peter Principle, you would have to say that she got the promotion for being a good Home Secretary.
 
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