No worries mate. Honestly I thought of that option myself. However, it wouldn't really work. First of all the ECJ had made it clear that revocation of article 50 will need to be done in good faith + in line of the country's constitution. If the UK play dirty then the EU will wiggle out of it through either the former or through the latter (the UK has no constitution). Secondly what would happen is that the UK would piss off everybody which means that the UK risks to be punished under Article 7. Finally businesses would be absolutely terrified by the UK threatening an entire continent. If the UK can put a gun at Europe's head then imagine what they can do to them.
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No worries mate. Honestly I thought of that option myself. However, it wouldn't really work. First of all the ECJ had made it clear that revocation of article 50 will need to be done in good faith + in line of the country's constitution. If the UK play dirty then the EU will wiggle out of it through either the former or through the latter (the UK has no constitution). Secondly what would happen is that the UK would piss off everybody which means that the UK risks to be punished under Article 7. Finally businesses would be absolutely terrified by the UK threatening an entire continent. If the UK can put a gun at Europe's head then imagine what they can do to them.
Winning votes isn't the chief concern for Labour anymore. Its a movement now.
Maybe we're getting out at the right time
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...naire-former-italian-prime-minister-tax-fraud
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...naire-former-italian-prime-minister-tax-fraud
Corbyn accuses May of holding talks as a stunt, then what the hell was his no confidence vote that he knew he’d never win?
Theresa May urges Jeremy Corbyn: Let's talk Brexit
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46901217
Corbyn should stand his ground .It's all a stunt , if she was really serious this should have taken place from the very beginning.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46901217
Corbyn should stand his ground .It's all a stunt , if she was really serious this should have taken place from the very beginning.
Good news that come with Brexit:
- Portugal airports are considering to hire a lot of people for visa checking. A Visa in Portugal costs 60 to 95€ and local authorities expect to make about 20M€ in Visas fees during a year if UK tourist flux remians the same.
You guys are going to pay more for a Visa than for a Ryanair flight when travelling to Algarve
Do you know how this would affect someone like myself?
I have a property in Portugal, Portuguese bank account, fiscal no etc but no citizenship as the property isn't worth over 500,000 euros.
If this god forbid does happen, do I pay the same tourist visa charge or are there concessions/exclusions for a property owner.
This sort of snarky comment is part of the problem I have with Leave voters. No solutions, just an incredibly naive and/or arrogant opinion of "oh we'll be fine, get on with it".
Utterly useless drivel.
Like a game of pass the bomb between Labour and Conservatives now.
The bomb being No Deal or No Brexit. Be the one holding the bomb when it goes off and that's you and party done for.
Corbyn quite content to leave the Conservatives holding the bomb knowing it plays into his 'look at what the Conservative-elite have done now'.
Conservatives going in hard on Corbyn and Co's socialist-vision in order to paint them as Brexit saboteurs. The invite to cross-party talks is essentially an invite to help diffuse the bomb, all whilst knowing that if it does go off, both parties are badly wounded.
The bomb being No Deal or No Brexit. Be the one holding the bomb when it goes off and that's you and party done for.
Corbyn quite content to leave the Conservatives holding the bomb knowing it plays into his 'look at what the Conservative-elite have done now'.
Conservatives going in hard on Corbyn and Co's socialist-vision in order to paint them as Brexit saboteurs. The invite to cross-party talks is essentially an invite to help diffuse the bomb, all whilst knowing that if it does go off, both parties are badly wounded.
There are no vetoes on the budget, the only time where unanimity is needed is regarding the adoption of its legal framework but even then:
Paragraph 4, Art.312 of the TFEU:
Then on the actual budget:
Art.314 of the TFEU
Art.315 of the TFEU - Failure to adopt the budget
I think the bloke is a bit of moron and I definitely won't be voting for him but self-interested is one thing I'd never describe him as.
I presume it was the financial framework that Cameron threatened to veto and got everyone in a panic then.
I am a bit lost with this subject. Will they need a visa to go on holidays to Schengen countries? I don't think It's a good idea.Good news that come with Brexit:
- Portugal airports are considering to hire a lot of people for visa checking. A Visa in Portugal costs 60 to 95€ and local authorities expect to make about 20M€ in Visas fees during a year if UK tourist flux remians the same.
You guys are going to pay more for a Visa than for a Ryanair flight when travelling to Algarve
I mean,the rule Will be with EU or every country can establish conditions with UK?
Corbyn is clearly engineering the situation so he can sit on his hands as much as possible whilst appearing to take a principled stance.
Thinks he’s some kind of master Machiavellian by trying to make a weak PM look even weaker with the aim of getting his hands on those levers of power.
No doubt he’ll be getting his fiddle out when the UK goes up in flames as he thinks May & the Tories will take all the flak thus benefitting Labour.
Well, culpable as the Tories are (and by god they are culpable) so too will Jeremy Corbyn be culpable for contributing feck all to the situation when asked.
Unbelievable that a man who has spoken in the past to some dubious organisations won’t cross the hall go and talk with the PM.
Hopefully the likes of Hilary Benn & Yvette Cooper ignore the Labour leadership and engage.
Clement Attlee will be turning in his grave.
Fecking hell, imagine if we had been stuck with May & Corbyn when we stood alone in 1940? Doesn’t bear thinking about does it?
Thinks he’s some kind of master Machiavellian by trying to make a weak PM look even weaker with the aim of getting his hands on those levers of power.
No doubt he’ll be getting his fiddle out when the UK goes up in flames as he thinks May & the Tories will take all the flak thus benefitting Labour.
Well, culpable as the Tories are (and by god they are culpable) so too will Jeremy Corbyn be culpable for contributing feck all to the situation when asked.
Unbelievable that a man who has spoken in the past to some dubious organisations won’t cross the hall go and talk with the PM.
Hopefully the likes of Hilary Benn & Yvette Cooper ignore the Labour leadership and engage.
Clement Attlee will be turning in his grave.
Fecking hell, imagine if we had been stuck with May & Corbyn when we stood alone in 1940? Doesn’t bear thinking about does it?
The intention is for May to get her deal accepted wuthour delaying exit, revoking A50 or having another referendum. She is offering nothing meaningful to discuss.
This is lining up to be the worst thing to happen to Britain in living memory. It is already a disaster that is costing us jobs.
Thinks he’s some kind of master Machiavellian by trying to make a weak PM look even weaker with the aim of getting his hands on those levers of power.
No doubt he’ll be getting his fiddle out when the UK goes up in flames as he thinks May & the Tories will take all the flak thus benefitting Labour.
Well, culpable as the Tories are (and by god they are culpable) so too will Jeremy Corbyn be culpable for contributing feck all to the situation when asked.
Unbelievable that a man who has spoken in the past to some dubious organisations won’t cross the hall go and talk with the PM.
Hopefully the likes of Hilary Benn & Yvette Cooper ignore the Labour leadership and engage.
Clement Attlee will be turning in his grave.
Fecking hell, imagine if we had been stuck with May & Corbyn when we stood alone in 1940? Doesn’t bear thinking about does it?[/QUOTE]
I can't stand Corbyn. I'm almost as mad at Labour as I am the Conservatives, just like the Americans should be mad at the Democrats.
You have one job, provide an proper alternative to the shite on display, and you feck it up.
No doubt he’ll be getting his fiddle out when the UK goes up in flames as he thinks May & the Tories will take all the flak thus benefitting Labour.
Well, culpable as the Tories are (and by god they are culpable) so too will Jeremy Corbyn be culpable for contributing feck all to the situation when asked.
Unbelievable that a man who has spoken in the past to some dubious organisations won’t cross the hall go and talk with the PM.
Hopefully the likes of Hilary Benn & Yvette Cooper ignore the Labour leadership and engage.
Clement Attlee will be turning in his grave.
Fecking hell, imagine if we had been stuck with May & Corbyn when we stood alone in 1940? Doesn’t bear thinking about does it?[/QUOTE]
I can't stand Corbyn. I'm almost as mad at Labour as I am the Conservatives, just like the Americans should be mad at the Democrats.
You have one job, provide an proper alternative to the shite on display, and you feck it up.
In what world do you live in?
Do you think the EU will sit armcrossed saying: " those pesky brittish got us caught by the balls"?
Try that and I assure you you would get kicked out, (with an existing rule or making a new one), blocked by any future trade and not making it easy on your geographical proximities.
Only a rule britannia imperialistic grandieur nostalgic moron would do something like this expecting to get away with it
Great to see people are coming around to seeing Corbyn for who he is. Enjoyed reading this page 
The perfect typo to be fair.
It is
What should he do?
Great to see people are coming around to seeing Corbyn for who he is. Enjoyed reading this page
It's just the usual bunch, so many having a hard time with the tories fecking up so badly they have to lash out and pretend there's even a trace of blame with Corbyn
Hard time to be a tory remainer
Great to see people are coming around to seeing Corbyn for who he is. Enjoyed reading this page
I'd never even heard of him until Brexit caught my attention, it's been pretty obvious how poor he is from day one. The nothing man.
Yeah Corbyn just back a referendum nothing can go wrong
I voted Labour and depending on their position in a next GE, I may well vote for them again even with Corbyn in charge. While I think Corbyn should engage with May (despite thinking May only now opening up things to other parties 2 months before we are due to leave is poor), currently and for a while I think Labour are in a tricky position. What can they do? What should they do?
This situation is so messy maybe in the long term it's best for Labour to be hands off. Ultimately, in 10 years time after we leave no one is going to be saying ahh the Labour opposition were terrible in the Brexit fiasco, it will be pinned on May and the Tories. Just as people (as misinformed as I think it is) blame Labour and not a weak opposition for the impact of the financial crisis in the UK.
This situation is so messy maybe in the long term it's best for Labour to be hands off. Ultimately, in 10 years time after we leave no one is going to be saying ahh the Labour opposition were terrible in the Brexit fiasco, it will be pinned on May and the Tories. Just as people (as misinformed as I think it is) blame Labour and not a weak opposition for the impact of the financial crisis in the UK.
It's just the usual bunch, so many having a hard time with the tories fecking up so badly they have to lash out and pretend there's even a trace of blame with Corbyn
Hard time to be a tory remainer
You think people who aren't Tories (say, everyone who isn't from the UK) have a positive view of Labour's handling of Brexit under Corbyn?
No of course not there's plenty of criticism to share around. Just the more right leaning posters on here jumped in over the last couple of days and their blame tends to go in one direction.
I don't think I'll be voting Corbyn next time round as he's been lacklustre but Labours position is complex. Split electorate, split MPs and no place at the negotiating table and that's before you get to the DUP and May. It's not simple like some political geniuses like to pretend.
Corbyn was one of the biggest critics of the EU and a follower of Tony Benn. He's the last of the true Labour socialists leading an army of Blairites against everything he truly believes in in order to fulfil a career ambition of being prime minister.
Alright, no deal seems to be off the agenda.
There is no way they will come to a consensus on any sort of Brexit.
Therefore, Article 50 will be revoked.
Happy days!
There is no way they will come to a consensus on any sort of Brexit.
Therefore, Article 50 will be revoked.
Happy days!
He reminds me of the Labour anti- EEC lot back in the early 70s.
I remember at the beginning of Brexit thinking why isn't that Labour Leader saying anything of substance - and he still hasn't three years later.
You've been asked several times to name some, but you keep refusing.
Can you elaborate a little on this for me?
By whom?
I'm sure Corbyn will get on well with Jean Luc Mélenchon when they're both likely in office in 2022. That could be a different kind of entente.
I'll have a bet of 5 groats with you that neither will ever be in office.
The man wasn't popular before and is even less popular now, so it's far from likely that he is even candidate.
I'm not from the UK and I don't think he has done well. This is mostly because his stance that everything will become great when he takes over negotiations is a trump like proposal which shouldnt convince anyone. He's treating the situation with the EU like it's a game of chess and he's simply the better player than May. The deal is on the table and there's no way that he'll get a more rosy version and some ideas spouted by some of his followers like the "The EU is scared of a socialist Britain hence why we would get a better deal" are just laughable.
Having said that, Labours position is simply horrible and no one has yet to offer a clear way that they should've picked. In my opinion they should've strongly pushed for a Customs Union deal position from the beginning with an option of a 2nd referendum specifying what "the public wants" (god that sounds dumb). I think with a homogenous party position and proper narrative setting that could've been a genuine way out for them. But that's easier said than done in hindsight. Now, they're in a shit position, everything he would do right now would piss off a lot of people.
And he's additionally not being helped with all the ludicrous shit that's being thrown at him, in the media and elsewhere. You just have to look through the last few pages to see the pathetic "Can't be trusted with the economy" "Terrorist supporter" agenda.
Maybe the tory supporter in here who spout those "Any other opposition would be miles ahead" nonsense should take a deep look at the party they've supported for decades. If it weren't for his referendum call, Paul the Wolf, Sassy Collins, Honest John and whatever they're all named would glorify a leader like Cameron yet he and his party are ten times more responsible for this mess than Labour and that is not because of the referendum call itself but because they've pushed their "business friendly, lets turn the UK into a tax heaven while pushing austerity" agenda for years, feeding the public continuously with fears of immigration and consolidating the beliefs of little Englanders that the Great British Empire deserves something better than the EU.
Yet Corbyn is solely responsible because he doesn't want to join a half arsed talk with May who ignored all the other parties for the last two years and now desperately tries to play the bipartisan card.
By god has anyone read the Youtube comments on that video? Ater reading a few of them I was starting to question who pasted who in that debate.
Social media is without a shadow of a doubt the antichrist!
Possibility if too old, not sure who would succeed. He got near 20% in first round only 2% off being in the second round. I am expecting economic issues to push voters in that direction. We're already seeing the beginning of it here and in France.
I'm a center right conservative so it's not something I particularly want to happen. Fairly certain we will see Corbyn as PM here. Brexit and coming recession will finish the Tories off. Will get at least one term of Corbyn Labour.