Yeah spot on. Basically "you're out of your element Donny."
Sick of hearing that she's done the best she could with the mess that Cameron left behind. She's done nothing of the sort.
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Yeah spot on. Basically "you're out of your element Donny."
Sick of hearing that she's done the best she could with the mess that Cameron left behind. She's done nothing of the sort.
I think everything she has done has simply been to hold onto power. I did enjoy her surviving the coup from the ERG though.
That’s all any of them care about. From across the political spectrum. The future welfare of the country is just a side show, so long as whatever happens improves their chance of being in power. It’s fecking infuriating.
Can the Brexit process be stopped and restarted again?
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The Attorney General and Conservative MP Ken Clarke have disagreed about whether Article 50 (the process which started the UK's two-year departure from the UK) could be cancelled - in order to give MPs more time to reach a consensus - and restarted later.
Geoffrey Cox told Mr Clarke that Article 50 could not be revoked unless "satisfactory evidence" was given to the EU to show the UK was ending the Brexit process altogether, rather than just pausing it.
So is Geoffrey Cox right?
It's true that the European Court of Justice (ECJ) has granted the UK the power to independently stop the Brexit process. But its ruling also says that "revocation brings the withdrawal procedure to an end".
So if the UK tried to revoke Article 50 just to buy more time, the EU could argue such a move does not comply with the ECJ's ruling.
But if the EU rejected a revocation request on that basis it's unclear how it would enforce it, according to Joe Owen from the Institute for Government.
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so its either an agreed extension (needs all 27 to agree) or complete revoking
limited options - I honestly could see may just chucking in the towel tomorrow and telling johnoson or mogg to crack on with PMQ's
To be fair, Henry wasn’t the only ruler in those days to cajole or threaten the pope into interpreting canon laws imaginatively. His mistake (similar to Brexiteers) was a failure to understand the aims and interests of the other side, given Catherine was the aunt of the most powerful man in Europe, Charles V, who was quite prepared to send an army across the Alps to smash up Rome when a pope got on the wrong side of him.
No way she wins the VoNC, making her immune for a year, only to resign a month later.
Good read, agree that she's basically exacerbated the situation. What it needed was a cool head who could look to compromise, instead we got a rent-a-money whore who just flips and flops which ever way extends her reign in power.
I think to leave office she'll have to be dragged kicking and screaming out of No.10 yelling " Brexit means Brexit, Strong and Stable!"
Oh come on that's just a lazy stereotype............oh
https://mobile.twitter.com/damiengayle/status/1085191438889971712
I think henry committed many many mistakes including
A- marrying an older woman out of pure status
B- boasting about his first night which made him look silly when he tried to argue that the marriage was not consumated
C- Giving in to Anne Boleyn which in reality was the main issue (i explain later)
D- Trying to bully the church which was silly considering the church had nothing to fear from tudor
Ultimately the situation could have been resolved with patience. Henry could have kept Cat as queen, he could marry mary off to a minor lord who wouldn't try to aim for the big price himself and he could have a horde of bastards which the church would likely legitimatise just to keep England catholic
Instead he opted for the my way or the high way policy which lead to untold misery to England and his dynasty
True!
Thank feck the populace seem to consistently do the right thing in referenda.
When we voted there was only one question and only two answers.
Stay. Or. Leave.
There was nothing to suggest leaving with a deal of any any description it was simply leave. These politicians have once again had us over. So much for democracy. A no deal leave would as May said be better than a bad deal and this so called deal is rotten to the core.
Good article that. Brexit was always going to be tricky but I think she went about this in the wrong way from the outset that has tangled us into a position that will will be difficult to get out of.
I don’t like those adverts he does for Renault during the football. That one where has his arm around the girls shoulders and says “some journeys are harder than others” with the girl looking all worried. Creepy, very creepy.
Expecting a few of these but there’s no chance it will be enough to swing it in her favour. The ones that will switch and vote for her deal will be doing so because they’re from deep Brexit territory and don’t want to upset their voters.
Bets on the vote margin?
I say May loses by 50
I say May loses by 50
A No Deal Brexit is literal insanity though. Leaving the EU meant changing various frameworks within which we operate now we won't be in the EU. Changing those frameworks inherently meant being able to reach an agreement with the EU in regards to things like the customs union, single market, Irish border, immigration etc. You need to have agreements in place for that sort of thing otherwise you lose what you currently have with literally nothing to replace it which causes disruption. This is basic, basic stuff.
To be fair some of those voting against it could spin it as saying they don't think the deal is extreme enough, but I get the impression No Deal is getting increasingly unpopular at this point and that even many who are for Brexit are tired of Brexiteers not having any plan of their own.
It's funny how the UK, Germany and France all conduct themselves as a reaction to major historic events taught in their schoolbooks.
Germany has become the 'nice guy' of Europe with it's pro-refugee stance a reaction to it's part in WW2.
France has been the scene of almost constant riots in an echo of the people power of the Revolution.
And the UK operates like it's the head of an Empire that can defeat all of Europe on its own.
More like 150 I think
That's an insult to the revolutionaries, we just have a minority of absolute feckwits.
No doubt.
But the lessons of the past are taught to the idiots just as much as they are taught to the reasonable.
My sweepstake is on 172.
Didn't it? The church within England was powerful and ridiculously wealthy. By the time Henry had finished he'd utterly broken that power, confiscated it's massive wealth and even razed lots of it's physical infrastructure to the ground. He then wasted the cash of course, but that's an irrelevance to the monasteries and abbeys, whose wealth and lands and power were never to return. A good thing too, for the long-term future of England. I accept Henry wasn't an existential threat to the pope and Rome, but losing England didn't exactly go down well, it must have cost them quite a bit. Don't know what you mean by 'trying to bully' either, he clearly won, as far as his battle with Rome went.
I can't recall who but one of those who have switched said on sky earlier that if May went back to the EU with a huge defeat the EU would have no reason to give her anything. Insinuating that a limited defeat was preferable.
They'll orchestrate a 50-100 loss i think.
I think about 100 conservative MPs will vote against it plus the 10 DUP and all the other parties.
Maybe 5 or so labour will vote for it plus 200 ish Tories.
Not sure about the other 17 odd tories. Could vote either way.
Worth watching on TV?
Brexiter: I'm voting against this deal because it's not what I want
Remainer: I'm voting against this deal because it's not what I want.
Country reunited.
Worth watching on TV?
Not yet. You could have a laugh at Corbyn.
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Does sound like she's just going to bring it back again from what commentators are saying. Incredible if so.
Corbyn speech on now, nothing of substance yet really. Mainly calling for a GE and renegotiation
Corbyn speech on now, nothing of substance yet really. Mainly calling for a GE and renegotiation
It was certainly no threat to the Vatican or the RCC.
I don't think he won either. His aim was to leave a dynasty that will last centuries. Instead the Tudor dynasty with his children as a traumatised Elisabeth preferred taking her own dynasty to the grave then give power to a man. Tudor left an England that was divided, which was a pariah in Europe and was left vulnerable to a crusade which actually happened. He could have lost more if that's what you mean (England might have become Spanish)
Anyone else feel like we need a complete reset? New leaders across the board, a new GE and a new referendum.
Cheering May, fecking idiot Tories
"The public elected a conservate goverment"...erm no they didn't
Cheering May, fecking idiot Tories
"The public elected a conservate goverment"...erm no they didn't
Listening on the radio...
Basically must respect the first referendum
Reopen negotiation with the EU
If he can't force an election I don't think he will back a 2nd referendum but instead look for a Norway type deal instead
Same old, same old
Think he'll call a no confidence vote but the Tories will back her by the sound of it.
Doubt he'll get a GE.
The only sensible thing to do is cancel Brexit but Corbyn will never promote that.
Thought People's Vote were getting somewhere when Lucas talked about how remaining isn't an end and that they need to offer an alternative to the austerity status quo. Low and behold it lasted less than a week as Soubry is welcomed to the Parliament Square stage, yet again, with open arms.
What a shite campaign.
What a shite campaign.
Why the feck is Blackford removing his amendment. It's the one useful motion