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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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Just got an interesting email at work this morning asking for volunteers to work in filling stations in the event of fuel shortages to ensure fuel is only distributed to organisations providing key functions, essentially emergency vehicles and healthcare workers. :nervous:
 
Just got an interesting email at work this morning asking for volunteers to work in filling stations in the event of fuel shortages to ensure fuel is only distributed to organisations providing key functions, essentially emergency vehicles and healthcare workers. :nervous:
Strong & stable
 
EU: Right Mr Corbyn and Mr Starmer, what would you like to talk about?

C&S : We'd like to put A50 on hold while we convince you to let us have full access to the single market without adhering to the 4 freedoms, we'd like to be part of a customs union but applying our own tariffs and negotiating our own trade deals , oh and by the way we don't want to pay anything for the privilege.

EU: Mrs May tried to bluff her way with a two of diamonds and a three of clubs, what cards do you have?

C&S: We have are a pair of jokers.

EU: Goodbye Mr Corbyn and Mr Starmer.
 
I work together with rather big companies on a daily basis in the harbour, logistics and marine business (I'm in IT) and most of them are warning for a new economical crisis in the months to come, delaying or ending major investments. A no deal Brexit on top of that could be catastrophic I think. Worrying times.
 
Thread title reminds me of that Metallica song 'No leaf clover'...

And it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
Was just a freight train coming your way

Anybody a type 1 diabetic or know anyone that is? Are you taking any precautions i.e stocking up on medication in the event of a complete catastrofeck come end of March? If they can't manage petrol deliveries, how can I trust them to manage insulin for my partner?
 
Corbyn said nothing. A press conference at a time like this and he said absolutely nothing, except he will 'call for a general election' eventually. How he hopes to win an election that would basically be about Brexit when he has no policies on Brexit is beyond me.
 
Corbyn talks drivel and the pound starts falling again.

Anything that extends this mess spooks business to be fair. They'd rather the certainty (relatively) of Mays deal over another year or two of discussion and debate.
 
Just seen the goverment are trying to limit amendments to just one if Mays deal fails. They know that won't fly surely? Parlaiment will just pass another motion allowing more
 
Corbyn said nothing. A press conference at a time like this and he said absolutely nothing, except he will 'call for a general election' eventually. How he hopes to win an election that would basically be about Brexit when he has no policies on Brexit is beyond me.

He has this party line of vote against whatever deal May would present and call for a general election even though he said he won't bring a vote of no confidence until he knew he could win. Meaningless rubbish.

Anything that extends this mess spooks business to be fair. They'd rather the certainty (relatively) of Mays deal over another year or two of discussion and debate.

The time for these games is over. May's deal will allow the future relationship to be discussed from April onwards. Corbyn and Starmer are still back where the Tories were over 2 years ago wanting the unobtainable. They know they're not going to be in power so they come up with this nonsense. They can't sell this approach to the people on Brexit even if they managed to get to force the government into an election.

Time is up and the new EU parliament sits in July after the votes in May without the UK unless the UK revokes A50 pronto , no more negotiation on withdrawal.
 
EU net migration to the UK is down from 189,000 (in the year before the referendum), to 74,000 (in the year to June 2018), which is great news if you're racist/xenophobic. Unfortunately for EDL-type wankers, non-EU net migration is up to 248,000 per year, its highest level since 2004.

I would imagine that is because as many pointed out, the UK needs migrant workers! What the xenophobes don't seem to appreciate is that simple economics dictates that economic migrates don't move to economies with no opportunities and vice versa!

I really think a basic lesson in the difference between an EU economic migrant, a non-EU economic migrant and an asylum-seeker/illegal immigrant/refugee would see the Leave vote lose 5-10%

(Note: before someone posts it...no I'm not saying ALL Leave voters are xenophobic/racist...feel like you have to caveat everything these days!)
 
Corbyn said nothing. A press conference at a time like this and he said absolutely nothing, except he will 'call for a general election' eventually. How he hopes to win an election that would basically be about Brexit when he has no policies on Brexit is beyond me.

He really is a feckin idiot. Absolutely nobody gives a shit about an election right now.
 
I would imagine that is because as many pointed out, the UK needs migrant workers! What the xenophobes don't seem to appreciate is that simple economics dictates that economic migrates don't move to economies with no opportunities and vice versa!

I really think a basic lesson in the difference between an EU economic migrant, a non-EU economic migrant and an asylum-seeker/illegal immigrant/refugee would see the Leave vote lose 5-10%

(Note: before someone posts it...no I'm not saying ALL Leave voters are xenophobic/racist...feel like you have to caveat everything these days!)

Yes, I fully agree.
 
This clusterf**k known as Brexit really is laughable, today I got a reply from the Auslanderbehörde (Office for Foreigners)

Sehr geehrter Herr ,

leider ist uns auch noch nicht bekannt, wie es aufenthaltsrechtlich mit britischen Staatsangehören nach der endgültigen Trennung weitergeht.

Ich denke, dass das auch Thema bei den derzeitigen Verhandlungen ist.


Which basically says that they dont have a clue what will happen to those with a British pass after Brexit and whether they can live and work in Germany, slowly I am getting very pi***d off with the inaptitude from British politicians from all party's as well as those from the EU who simply play with the livelihoods and lives of both European people in the UK and vice versa with those from British people living in the EU.

The British or a number of these people need to climb down from their high horse because Britain I wont call it Great Britain because it doesn't deserve that name anymore and those days are long gone as do a number in the EU.

After Brexit how many hoops must I spring through if for example I want to visit my Mum in the UK seeing as I have to travel through Germany and Holland.

Hopefully after Brexit the EU will do some form of pass for people so that they can as now travel freely through the European countries.
 
I would imagine that is because as many pointed out, the UK needs migrant workers! What the xenophobes don't seem to appreciate is that simple economics dictates that economic migrates don't move to economies with no opportunities and vice versa!

I really think a basic lesson in the difference between an EU economic migrant, a non-EU economic migrant and an asylum-seeker/illegal immigrant/refugee would see the Leave vote lose 5-10%

(Note: before someone posts it...no I'm not saying ALL Leave voters are xenophobic/racist...feel like you have to caveat everything these days!)

No it wouldn't at all, the type of leave voter you're referring to won't change their vote due to a few simple facts on migration.
 
After Brexit how many hoops must I spring through if for example I want to visit my Mum in the UK seeing as I have to travel through Germany and Holland.

Hopefully after Brexit the EU will do some form of pass for people so that they can as now travel freely through the European countries.

You'll need to show your passport/visa when arriving with the train or ferry, afterwards you'll be ok to travel through the EU I'd imagine. I mean, we don't have customs on the borders between EU countries (for now)...
 
This clusterf**k known as Brexit really is laughable, today I got a reply from the Auslanderbehörde (Office for Foreigners)

Sehr geehrter Herr ,

leider ist uns auch noch nicht bekannt, wie es aufenthaltsrechtlich mit britischen Staatsangehören nach der endgültigen Trennung weitergeht.

Ich denke, dass das auch Thema bei den derzeitigen Verhandlungen ist.


Which basically says that they dont have a clue what will happen to those with a British pass after Brexit and whether they can live and work in Germany, slowly I am getting very pi***d off with the inaptitude from British politicians from all party's as well as those from the EU who simply play with the livelihoods and lives of both European people in the UK and vice versa with those from British people living in the EU.

The British or a number of these people need to climb down from their high horse because Britain I wont call it Great Britain because it doesn't deserve that name anymore and those days are long gone as do a number in the EU.

After Brexit how many hoops must I spring through if for example I want to visit my Mum in the UK seeing as I have to travel through Germany and Holland.

Hopefully after Brexit the EU will do some form of pass for people so that they can as now travel freely through the European countries.

I presume Germany has the same approach as France which is that they will grant the same rights to British Citizens as the UK will grant to their citizens which will be resolved if there is a deal. Even without a deal you should be OK to continue living and working in Germany but until the UK makes its mind up it remains in limbo.

The travel part may be more complicated. A Schengen visa may end up being the solution but who knows. It's unbelievable that less than 80 days from B day, no citizen and no company knows what's going to happen.
 
This clusterf**k known as Brexit really is laughable, today I got a reply from the Auslanderbehörde (Office for Foreigners)

Sehr geehrter Herr ,

leider ist uns auch noch nicht bekannt, wie es aufenthaltsrechtlich mit britischen Staatsangehören nach der endgültigen Trennung weitergeht.

Ich denke, dass das auch Thema bei den derzeitigen Verhandlungen ist.


Which basically says that they dont have a clue what will happen to those with a British pass after Brexit and whether they can live and work in Germany, slowly I am getting very pi***d off with the inaptitude from British politicians from all party's as well as those from the EU who simply play with the livelihoods and lives of both European people in the UK and vice versa with those from British people living in the EU.

The British or a number of these people need to climb down from their high horse because Britain I wont call it Great Britain because it doesn't deserve that name anymore and those days are long gone as do a number in the EU.

After Brexit how many hoops must I spring through if for example I want to visit my Mum in the UK seeing as I have to travel through Germany and Holland.

Hopefully after Brexit the EU will do some form of pass for people so that they can as now travel freely through the European countries.
I'd have hoped that Germany at the very least would have been as proactive as The Netherlands and even faster than Italy in assuring that UK citizens with Residency will have no problems in staying and accessing all of the previous health and social services.

There is a UK Group who have taken matters into their own hands and are negotiating with the EU for a so called 'Green Card' allowing UK citizens the right to travel freely and stay and work in EU countries.

Let me know if you can't access this article and I will pm you the text - https://www.thelocal.it/20190104/meet-the-man-campaigning-for-an-eu-green-card-for-the-five-million
 
Corbyn keeps saying he want to renegotiate the deal but says nothing about what he wants. Feck off please!
 
Who would you guys vote for in a GE before Brexit?

Luckily got the SNP up here so would stick with them. Not that they've necessarily done anything remarkable but would probably be the easiest choice I've had to make.
 
Luckily got the SNP up here so would stick with them. Not that they've necessarily done anything remarkable but would probably be the easiest choice I've had to make.

Can you, or someone else with the knowledge, give a brief update on how the different Brexit scenarios could impact/trigger/hinder another Scottish referendum? If it's even possible to answer.
 
Can you, or someone else with the knowledge, give a brief update on how the different Brexit scenarios could impact/trigger/hinder another Scottish referendum? If it's even possible to answer.

It's difficult to tell. On the surface Brexit should ideally boost Scottish independence because Scotland voted Remain and was told consistently in 2014 that voting against independence was the best way to secure EU membership. That's not necessarily translated into polling numbers though because a lot of people are worried about whether it'd be too big a risk on top of a process that's already massively risky.

A hard Brexit, I think, would make independence more difficult to implement provided we (obviously) wanted to ensure no border between Scotland and England. Presuming that doesn't happen though, could be achievable if we perhaps maintain a similar relationship to whatever the rest of the UK will have with the EU.

I don't think you'll actually see another referendum for a while though because the UK government isn't going to allow one to happen while Brexit's ongoing. Certain sections of the SNP membership are becoming increasingly restless and don't think Sturgeon's doing enough to facilitate one - I'm not sure what she really can do at the moment though because it's not in her power unilaterally call one, and she doesn't have enough country-wide support to try and force one without turning the population against it, unless sentiment against the UK continues to worsen.