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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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Better unicorns?

Ironically, some countries think the EU have been generous with the UK and could actually demand more from the UK should they try to renegotiate but of course the UK thinks it's all one way traffic and have forgotten that it is they who want to leave and not the EU chucking them out.
 
So she just described the UK as an abusive partner who would go to the Xmas party and spike the drinks.... Charming...

It is a perfectly valid viewpoint. Everytime I hear a pro-brexit politician speak I cringe because of the arrogance and complete lack of insight into how the UK is viewed outside of the UK. The 'EU needs us more than them, Rule Britannia, Churchill, etc.' bollocks. It really is pathetic.
 
I'd even prefer Mourinho to that lot.
 
Oh god and Hunt, Javid and Davis also in the running. I need to accelerate my plans to escape to either Munich or Singapore.
Started the process of Skilled Migrant Express Entry to Canada last week. At least to give me options. My job is far from safe and my bank hasn't given reassurances there won't be cuts.
Kind of sad when the ink isn't even dry on my UK passport.
 
So any predictions for this week?

Personally I think...

They don't delay the vote

The speaker does not allow the amendment that blocks no deal to be one of the limited number of amendments

May looses the vote by around 80 to a hundred votes

She is told to jog on by the EU... No further consessions

There is a confidence motion by the labour party (she will survive)

There will be a challenge to her party leadership (she will survive)
 
Started the process of Skilled Migrant Express Entry to Canada last week. At least to give me options. My job is far from safe and my bank hasn't given reassurances there won't be cuts.
Kind of sad when the ink isn't even dry on my UK passport.
Can you get a job in Canada with your current employer? We're lucky my wife's has overseas offices, plus she earns way more than me, so more important that she has a job.
 
This.

It's funny, I've seen memes with his face and quotes used by both sides of the Brexit debate.

As you say, he was a proponent of European unity in order to counter the new threat from the east, but where Britain was concerned he was always a nationalist and said explicitly that Britain wasn't a natural part of a united Europe.

Churchill being used in a Brexit debate?

So much of what is wrong with Britain is encapsulated in that little fact.
 
So any predictions for this week?

Personally I think...

They don't delay the vote

The speaker does not allow the amendment that blocks no deal to be one of the limited number of amendments

May looses the vote by around 80 to a hundred votes

She is told to jog on by the EU... No further consessions

There is a confidence motion by the labour party (she will survive)

There will be a challenge to her party leadership (she will survive)

I'd say you're about right all around.

...and what follows is most like some kind of 'negotiated no deal' scenario.
 
Churchill being used in a Brexit debate?

So much of what is wrong with Britain is encapsulated in that little fact.

TBF it was David Lammy invoking Churchill this time around in a pro-EU speech during the debate.

...but I see where you're coming from, his use in memes to justify sometimes outdated ideals (often with made up quotes) is overused, and usually cringe.
 
TBF it was David Lammy invoking Churchill this time around in a pro-EU speech during the debate.

...but I see where you're coming from, his use in memes to justify sometimes outdated ideals (often with made up quotes) is overused, and usually cringe.

Living in the past was where I was coming from.
 
TBF it was David Lammy invoking Churchill this time around in a pro-EU speech during the debate.

...but I see where you're coming from, his use in memes to justify sometimes outdated ideals (often with made up quotes) is overused, and usually cringe.

Great leader through a war but a pretty reprehensible figure beyond that. Certainly not a good representative of modern values.
 
Can you get a job in Canada with your current employer? We're lucky my wife's has overseas offices, plus she earns way more than me, so more important that she has a job.
I am to sure about that to be honest. Most of my colleagues have discussed France as the easiest option (French Company) but I'm not sure that's a move I want to make. Think it would be easier for me to adjust to a place like Canada.
 


Well that was fun.
Labour's position is hopelessly ridiculous.
Mogg and Cleverly can't stop lying.

People keep saying they are more informed now.
Why are people still talking utter crap then and what is known now that wasn't known in 2016. People will still believe the bollox the politicians spout as long as it suits what they want to hear.

Two days from the most important decision in most people's lifetime. Bewildering.
 
So any predictions for this week?

Personally I think...

They don't delay the vote

The speaker does not allow the amendment that blocks no deal to be one of the limited number of amendments

May looses the vote by around 80 to a hundred votes

She is told to jog on by the EU... No further consessions

There is a confidence motion by the labour party (she will survive)

There will be a challenge to her party leadership (she will survive)
Could easily be right. Part of me looks forward to an early general election though, as it looks as if Labour's position on Europe with it's six tests bollocks will be so patently unachievable that they will be well stuffed at the ballot, but that's only because I sense a good gambling opportunity. Maybe someone of the much vaunted half a million party Corbynites can put me right on that, they seem to have been a bit quiet lately?
 
Could easily be right. Part of me looks forward to an early general election though, as it looks as if Labour's position on Europe with it's six tests bollocks will be so patently unachievable that they will be well stuffed at the ballot, but that's only because I sense a good gambling opportunity. Maybe someone of the much vaunted half a million party Corbynites can put me right on that, they seem to have been a bit quiet lately?

I can't see a General Election unless May loses a confidence vote. I can't believe any Labour supporter or member can say with a straight face that trying to force a GE right now is even remotely acting in the best interests of the country! It's such eminently transparent political opportunism. Not that the Conservatives would be any different. There's really not very long left to (re)negotiate any kind of deal with the EU, albeit a last minute 'negotiated no deal' - We're already burned out with balot fatigue, really, does the country really want another 8 weeks of election campaigning? Followed by an inevitable hung parliament with the clusterfeck and power scramble to arrange another Conservative minority government, this time without DUP backing - whilst watching Corbyn trying to pander to the SNP (by promising IndyRef 2) and to the Liberal Democrats (by promising the Peoples' vote) to form some a coalition of misfits, all pulling in different directions.
 
Could easily be right. Part of me looks forward to an early general election though, as it looks as if Labour's position on Europe with it's six tests bollocks will be so patently unachievable that they will be well stuffed at the ballot, but that's only because I sense a good gambling opportunity. Maybe someone of the much vaunted half a million party Corbynites can put me right on that, they seem to have been a bit quiet lately?
Why do you look forward to an early ge if you think torys will win again? Why not just carry on with the torys you have now?
 
I can't see a General Election unless May loses a confidence vote. I can't believe any Labour supporter or member can say with a straight face that trying to force a GE right now is even remotely acting in the best interests of the country! It's such eminently transparent political opportunism. Not that the Conservatives would be any different. There's really not very long left to (re)negotiate any kind of deal with the EU, albeit a last minute 'negotiated no deal' - We're already burned out with balot fatigue, really, does the country really want another 8 weeks of election campaigning? Followed by an inevitable hung parliament with the clusterfeck and power scramble to arrange another Conservative minority government, this time without DUP backing - whilst watching Corbyn trying to pander to the SNP (by promising IndyRef 2) and to the Liberal Democrats (by promising the Peoples' vote) to form some a coalition of misfits, all pulling in different directions.
May wont lose a confidence vote, no-one has put themselves forward as official challenger .