wtf? He must have said exactly the same thing over and over again for the past 3 months, in every single interview no matter what it's about, in fact this is all he says. It's boring & repetitive.
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wtf? He must have said exactly the same thing over and over again for the past 3 months, in every single interview no matter what it's about, in fact this is all he says. It's boring & repetitive.
It highlights the fact that, if we do have a second referendum, the Remain side will have to do more than rely on economic arguments. Jenkin and his ilk will lie shamelessly again about Project Fear and claim they could get a better deal than the closet remainer “Treason May”.
Good, so you agree that the Bank of England has helped stabilise the economy since the referendum.
The Labour amendment to block a no deal very much looks like a people's vote in the making.
Yes? Not sure why you are so keen on this point.
https://www.ft.com/content/6aec5eb8-0256-11e7-aa5b-6bb07f5c8e12
There goes "Project fear again"...
I can't believe there are people out there who think that 1/3 or 30% being wiped off of the value of UK families assets/homes is a good thing "Oh more people can afford houses then"
No you fecking morons it means that those people who have houses now and are struggling to keep them are going to lose them and when the interest rates have to go up it also means that an even larger proportion of people won't be able to afford to buy them.Also, this "Project fear" BS excuse of an argument is so hypocritical as well. I take exception to the term being used for anyone but those campaiging for Brexit because it was the Brexiteers like UKIP that used complete fiction lies and FUD to influence their cretins and fanned the flames of ignorance with it.
It was not project fear it was Project FACT you fecks.
Yeah
Why?
Because they have a direct impact over what happens. They control interest rates, they are responsible for keeping inflation on target and they have an arsenal of levers and buttons at their disposal in order to make that happen. In other words, whatever they say directly impacts the economy. I can’t remember the BoE warning about a possible recession before, but it’s normally a good way to get people to be more cautious with their spending which sets the wheels running even quicker.
The Brexit modelling from the BoE are not facts and neither are the projections from a vested interest in the German banking industry.
Under ordinary circumstances, I agree with you but this is far from ordinary - the first time a major advanced economy has tried to extricate itself from a single market trading bloc and reverse 45 years of convergence. The BoE is right to inform the population of the likely consequences of the choices before parliament. As for becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy, business investment has already fallen sharply due to uncertainty and, as for consumers, Remainers feared the worst anyway while I imagine many Leavers will just dismiss it as propaganda.
I was working on a project with one the major banks a few months ago to relocate thousands of their employees to Europe and route their trades, billions of dollars worth per day, to the new location. A number of others i know have leased offices in Europe as a just in case.
800bn sounds like a lot to the public buts its a drop in the ocean in that world. Brexit will hit hard but ultimately the English language will protect London.
Oh I don’t doubt this.
It’s obviously going to be a bad thing to leave the EU and a huge shock to the economy, I just wouldn’t expect to see the BoE shouting it from the rooftops is all
Weird statement. Since when have economic forecasts been facts? What matters is whether or not the information helps people make better decisions.
EU immigrants down 13000 from March 2018. Non-EU immigrants up 13000 from March 2018 - overall same number.
Brexiters are getting what they wanted - more immigrants from outside the EU, that's what they wanted, wasn't it?
No need for the patronising “not your subject”.
Ignorantly I hadn’t read the article and went based on what you’d written. And your wording implied an actual drop of 4% per the way your post is worded. Or at least how I read it. And given some of the ther figures being branded around yesterday it seemed possible
Not to worry though, my error. Yeah in this context, it’s meaningless not because it’s not a lot of money (every decimal is huge when talking about GDP) but it’s so easy to spin it in a positive light to the public. Someone can just say hey look our economy grew by x% hence Brexit was a success. If someone says no it wasn’t cause if it hadn’t happened it might have been more, It’s easy to see who wold sway lesser informed people.
It wasn't a forecast.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ning-recession-financial-crisis-a8656561.html
The Bank stressed that it was modelling the scenario to be sure that the UK banking sector was resilient enough to withstand such an economic crisis, rather than making a forecast of what was likely to happen.
What's making the headlines is the absolute worst case scenario modelling because its sexy stuff.
Yes, that was a shit comment, unjustifiably arrogant as well. My apologies.
Jezza lad saying how it is, not wanting to miss a bit of I'm a Celeb. Man of the people, oh Jeremy Corbyn.
Is he taking the piss?
He knows we live in a country full of morons who would rather watch a few has beens rather than get informed on the biggest threat to this countrys stability since WW2. He knows he won't be able to get his message across if no one tunes in so he's absolutely right to not want the debate to clash with a popular TV programme among the sheep!
Get informed by May and Corbyn? You’d have to be a pretty big moron to watch them debate something they know nothing about.
Debates are always rubbish but the BBC debate sounds like a awful clusterfeck
Will the BBC have a Kremlin backdrop behind Corbyn again?
EU immigrants down 13000 from March 2018. Non-EU immigrants up 13000 from March 2018 - overall same number.
Brexiters are getting what they wanted - more immigrants from outside the EU, that's what they wanted, wasn't it?
Fabulous! Foreigners, but different foreigners! Exactly what the Brexiteers were after right from the start. Over the moon they'll be.
Our six-term Labour leader, the illiterate, Commie-loving, British hating, nationalising taxocrat Comrade Jeremy CorbynI'm expecting something like this:
Hey I'm no longer illiterate
This poll is confusing but strongly indicates that a second referendum would be no panacea.
May's deal+No deal strongly outnumber Remain.
http://www.deltapoll.co.uk/steve-fisher-condorcet
By looking at proportions of voters in the 1st poll, you can conclude that don't know/won't vote are breaking *against* remain which would be expected at 45% if the trends from the left hand side poll held.
May's deal+No deal strongly outnumber Remain.
http://www.deltapoll.co.uk/steve-fisher-condorcet
By looking at proportions of voters in the 1st poll, you can conclude that don't know/won't vote are breaking *against* remain which would be expected at 45% if the trends from the left hand side poll held.
https://www.parliament.uk/documents...idence-from-the-Prime-Minister-29-11-2018.pdf
Theresa May's evidence to the Commons liaison committee.
She's barking mad.
Theresa May's evidence to the Commons liaison committee.
She's barking mad.
It's no surprise the goverment has gone for the BBC as they know they'll skew it in the goverments favour.
She'll get to see the questions before hand and it'll just be the same old spun lies.
Christ how demeaning would it be for Nicola Sturgeon, First Minister of Scotland, to ask Jeremy Corbyn a question from the audience. Feck the BBC.
Only if she takes it seriously. She should just ask him about his allotment.
Can someone give me the very simple basics of what is happening right now? A deal is being negotiated? How are negotiations going?
Could they invite a pro-Remain QC to the panel? It might be the only way to get May to answer a question rather than robotically repeating platitudes.
- Justine Greening, the Conservative former education secretary and a supporter of a second referendum on Brexit, has said that there is time to organise one to take place on 30 May. Speaking at a People’s Vote event she said:
Hello, in the EU we are voting for a new European parliament between the 23rd and 26th May. The UK will have no seats. Which planet are you on?
There are two separate things-
1. The withdrawal agreement, which sets out interim measures for the period between the UK leaving in March 2019 and the UK-EU agreeing an agreement on their future relationship. This has been agreed between May and the EU but may not get through parliament. If it does not get through parliament (even on a second reading maybe), then we are in crisis mode - general election, second referendum...The EU is unlikely to renegotiate this agreement and, in the absence of an agreement to extend the 29 March leaving date (to which the EU would probably agree to only if there was a 2nd referendum on the table), we crash out on 29 March and all hell breaks loose.
2. The longer-term agreement on the future relationship - this will not be discussed until and unless the withdrawal agreement is signed (the latter includes 7 pages of waffle about the parties’ intentions).
In short - it’s a total mess. Thanks, David Cameron.
According to May and the EU negotiations are over. Some people think the EU will reopen negotiations if we ask them nicely, after parliament votes against May, or after a general election perhaps, others think the EU will not re-negotiate at all, or will not agree substantial changes at any rate. If the latter are right some people think the Act of Withdrawal obliges us to to leave the EU with no deal, whilst others think we should tell the EU we've changed our mind and want to stay, and if we ask to stay some people think the EU will say too late we've agreed you're going, others think they'll say ok mates carry on as you were, while still others think they'll say if you want to stay you'll have to accept new conditions, like joining the Euro and Schengen. I wouldn't waste too much time working it out yet though, because in December you can watch May and Corbyn explain it all on telly, unless you want to watch I'm a Celebrity instead. Which might not be a bad idea when I think about it.