Why would they get demolished for pushing for a 2nd referendum? Is that not what the people want?
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Why would they get demolished for pushing for a 2nd referendum? Is that not what the people want?
Not sure even Corbyn and McDonnell can be as ruinous long-term as Brexit. Hopefully parliament wouldn't pass their more extreme policies.
Yep the lurch to the right has lost many voters, eg my wife and I, plus I am fortunate enough to have a genuinely good MP in Andy Slaughter, so I can focus on his local work, not the thought of voting for Corbyn.
He doesn't know anything. Nobody does. It's all hot air.
May was supposed to destroy Corbyn last time out.
Pfftt, give it a year or two and you'll be shouting at your Lenin poster about how Labour haven't gone far enough to the left.
May about to take live questions from the public on brexit on BBC (5 live and bbc news)...
its going to be a half hour car crash
its going to be a half hour car crash
Either way it seems like all we would be voting for is what's the best worst policy. Now we're in turmoil It seems many politicians are finally realising Brexit is probably not quite worth all the trouble they've caused.
She's talking about Christmas Cards right now...
Now she's talking about cupcakes.
and a 9 year old who baked her a cup cake... avoid questions as much as possible - they should have got paxman or similar to do this
The questioner going on about male politicians resigning, what the hell was that about... she's had plenty of female politicians resigning too. Bizarre.
Wow she's dodging.
One decent question which she got pressed on. Rest was fluff.
I misread that as dogging... which in fairness would have been a proper news story
She inadvertedly admitted that remaining was the better option.

maybe she'd get more support then.Yeah my statement was a bit absolute, what i meant was that i think more voters will leave Labour for UKIP than they'll gain elsewhere.
The SNP would likely gain seats from the Tories but unfortunately the Lib Dems or Greens aren't in a position to be much of an alternative to Corbyn.
A couple of months ago YouGov were showing Labour would be around 10% behind if they blocked Brexit. I'm sure that's reduced as people have changed their minds but you'd still need an historic swing to Labour to pull it off.
Maybe enough Tories will hate Boris and Mogg who knows
She looked pretty annoyed about it too when the camera zoomed out.
I didn't catch the first half of the interview, did anyone ask her about the story of the army having to issue out medicine? Granted, I think that its based more on one of the Government (can't remember her name) miscommunication but it's still a pretty wild story.
well if thats the start of her charm offensive to win the public over i think we had better start preparing for a no deal
Yes, that's right.
Theresa May has all the charm of a 3-day old dog tod with a flag in it.
Pity so few voters thought that 17 months ago in the general election then really, when they endorsed Labour and Conservative pledges for Brexit, instead of voting Liberal. And yet according to many of them, it's the Brexiters that are the stupid ones.
Q: As a remain voter what is better for the UK your deal or staying?
May: I recognise that staying in the EU caused real concern, including over immigration. The sky won’t fall when we leave. It will be different.
Including?
When May says it will be different outside the EU, she is probably preparing the Brits that battered mackerel and herring will replace cod and haddock.
May: I recognise that staying in the EU caused real concern, including over immigration. The sky won’t fall when we leave. It will be different.
Including?
When May says it will be different outside the EU, she is probably preparing the Brits that battered mackerel and herring will replace cod and haddock.
I dunno, Labour would lose some votes to UKIP, but there's a reasonable possibility it wouldn't impact said seats all that much due to the FPTP system. UKIP are largely still in disarray anyway and I'm not sure they've really got the finances to fund a massive campaign in terms of getting candidates to stand and promoting them properly etc.
I like how the government try to reassure people by informing us it won't quite be as bad as a literal full-scale apocalypse.
I like how the government try to reassure people by informing us it won't quite be as bad as a literal full-scale apocalypse.
Those of us who have escaped will be preparing Red Cross parcels to send to our brethren back in the UK, however, we are not certain that the said parcels will get through.
The trouble is this argument sounds awfully like the thinking that Ed and Ed were going through 7 years ago as they struggled to come to terms with a Tory party that was pushing full steam ahead with a destructive and ideological austerity plan, while Labour struggled with the accusation they were to blame for spending too much in the first place. Rather than stand full square behind a rejection of austerity they chased the polls and tried to split the difference, ending up with a kind of austerity-lite position that pleased no-one. While I personally think they were in a lose-lose situation whatever they did, I dont think history has been particularly kind to their attempts to equivocate. I also think its fascainating that it was Corbyn who rode the wave of the rejection of that political triangulation, and yet he seems to be doing something similar on Brexit.
Not in the Labour Hart lands like the North East and not in the swing areas like the West Midlands. There people are still strong Brexiteers.
No one trusts the Lib Dems to live up live up to their campaign promises.
Certainly should give her better material for the next election to replace her 'field of wheat' anecdote.
LibDems are hardly alone in that regard.
Been saying similar myself - a lot of Corbyn's fans have defended him based on his ideals and positions irrespective of how popular he has been at that respective time, and have often not been particularly bothered about polling, yet on the issue of Brexit, polling has suddenly become a convenient defence for his inaction.
If the argument for Corbyn is that he's trying to shift the political paradigm in the UK and that that's something which won't come easily, I struggle to see why that same argument shouldn't apply to Brexit, wherein under the same logic the best way to prevent it or neuter it would be to properly argue against it and highlight its flaws.
I'm sure I read yesterday that according to YouGov Labour held a 3 point lead in the polls. For whatever that is worth.
So when is this happening. Supposedly Brexit will make companies lose a lot of EU talent and have them consider talent from other nations (America included) and so I can get a job in Manchester and buy a season ticket pass and live my dream. So Brexit is a win for me.
don't get serious on me
don't get serious on me
Feck, 833 pages and finally someone came along with a understandable reason for it all.
No but they did the unforgivable and propped up a Tory Government. They also stuck up a massive middle finger at their major supporters, students, by not only not stopping student fees but actually help the Tories to raise student fees significantly.
It's one thing to not live up to your promises but to go completely against your promise by increasing the thing you pledged to remove is unforgivable. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.
They are on the caff on other threads as well. "The Arabs own everything" literally what they said. They also own Hollywood apparently literally the opposite of reality. They are a special breed of feckwit.
I'll maintain the idea of the coalition in itself wasn't awful - ultimately the Tories were the biggest party and the only one who could form a government, and it was inevitable that compromise would have to be reached in that regard. The problem was that the Lib Dems didn't push anywhere near hard enough for anything that mattered. Voting reform to PR should've been a demand from the off - they should've also requested more senior cabinet positions. I'd argue they should've tried to neuter austerity much more than they did, but then the problem was that Clegg and a fair few within his party were actually quite right-wing anyway, only really disagreeing massively with the Tories on social matters.
Make sure you're good at picking fruit and vegetables and can convince the company employing you to pay you £30k per year for doing that, and by the way don't speak with a funny accent.