I agree that there has to something a bit more detailed. The only two choices being Leave Or Remain in the last referendum was one of the most stupidest idea imaginable.Therefore imho it should be clearly laid out what the pros and cons are and the potential knock on effects
Time for a GE on the issue of Brexit. The time has come for the Lib Dems to rise like a Phoenix from the flames as the only remain party.
Time is up for political charlatans like Corbyn and the Tories.
Id like to see blair head up a new remain party - mainly to see the corbynistas moan about it when he won
Id like to see blair head up a new remain party - mainly to see the corbynistas moan about it when he won
except I cant see how or why there would be a GE - under what circumstances would that play out rather than just electing a new conservative leader and going with no deal?
It is very unlikley there will be a new conservative leader because of the split in the party. Theresa may needs I think only 156 to win the no confidence vote and she can't be challenged for another year.
The majority of the conservatives do not support Brexit so they will not support the ERG in getting rid of the leader.
The impasse in parliament can only be solved by a general election so if Labour gets that they should go against the government and back a peoples vote, get into power and have a way out of Brexit.
Brexit has absolutely destroyed the Conservatives for a generation to come! It's so beautiful to watch!
so thats basically him officially standing for leader thenRees-Mogg: 'I am not offering my name as leader'
You often speak about people that admire Corbyn in a deflammitory manner. It's pretty sad really. I think that throughout all the years I've followed politics it has seemed to be that we have waited for a politician to be honest and open and clearly hold the wants of their constituents above his or her own agendas.Id like to see blair head up a new remain party - mainly to see the corbynistas moan about it when he won
Not necessarily. The ERG crew are actually not popular among the Tory MPs.They surely would not have put the letter of no confidence in if they were not certain of getting the numbers.
Sir Graham Brady: "Look you lot to force a vote of no confidence I need 48 letters, I only have 47"
Scaled hand appears clutching a letter, vertical eyelids blink, tongue darts out of mouth,
Gove: "Will this do Graham"
If Mogg or Boris become PM I reckon the rest of us pay for a wall to be built around Britain and just leave ye to your own devices for a couple of decades. A Britain under either of their leadership has nothing good to offer the world.
If a 2nd Referendum becomes a reality the EU will allow Article 50 to be extended.surely thats irelavant though... by the time they vote it down there wont be time to run a new peoples vote before we leave on no deal terms
Where is David Cameron?
Yes, there is no religious restriction to the PM, only the Monarch.
You maybe right but it is still a case that has yet to be tested. I know that Blair wouldn't test the waters he openly admitted that he would have converted years previously if he didn't want to become PM.Yes but the 1829 Act would be unlawful today by virtue of the Human Rights Act. Most likely it wouldn't be enforced, rather than a case be brought and challenged. The 1998 Act could be seen as impliedly repealing the 1829 Act.
You often speak about people that admire Corbyn in a deflammitory manner. It's pretty sad really. I think that throughout all the years I've followed politics it has seemed to be that we have waited for a politician to be honest and open and clearly hold the wants of their constituents above his or her own agendas.
It's funny because Corbyn could have already elevated himself to be very close to Downing street had he chosen to lie but even when severely pressed by journalists he would always tell the truth and then he gets lambasted for it.
Each up their own like, that's democracy for you, but the snide comments just make the commenter look sad to be honest.
It was tongue in cheek about the way people have been saying that anything but hard Brexit would be undemocratic because the public voted marginally in an advisory referendum to leave the EU.I'd make a couple of points.
First, it is duplicitous (but not undemocratic) for members of the Cabinet like Raab to have approved the deal and then resigned over it.
Second, it isn't undemocratic for MPs to vote against the deal, or any government policy. Even if a three-line whip is established, MPs can vote against the deal, with the risk being that teh whip is withdrawn from them and they have to sit as independents. However, many may risk this if they feel May's authority is ebbing away. So, in short, it isn't undemocratic.
Austerity! Yaaay!Cameron for PM (again), Osborne back as Chancellor, a 2nd referendum, then back to where we were before all this shit started.