We still haven't had a catholic PM though and people with more knowledge than me about the matter have refused to push the question by converting whilst being PM or applying for the post whilst already being catholic.
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It clearly is, yes.
Blair's worry was that he'd be seen as devoutly religious rather than Catholic I think. It's not the kind of profile that the British electorate warm to. I remember him getting upset with a BBC journalist who was needling him about it and was asking him if he prayed with George Bush.
It could be. It would only take a few Tory remainers to abstain and they wouldn't have a majority.
Either the EU wants to work with us or they don't, if they want us to stay then what's the worth in forcing us to leave with no deal?
All this talk of how UK will get concessions, how much the EU need us. Is that leave date is set in stone with no room to maneuver?
I know so little about Brexit.. But how likely is it really for a second referendum at this stage? A vote of no confidence gets more and more likely so they will either bring on a leader who will discuss new terms or put it to the people again, is that about right?
I feel like I might have missed 50 steps on the way.
I feel like I might have missed 50 steps on the way.
Still far from likely at this stage. Not even clear she would lose a confidence vote. I think she'd win.
Labour goal isn't to stay in the EU.can a loss be a win?
I don't think all the people critical of Labour were saying ignore the vote. Personally think he should have been more vocal about the need for a much softer brexit. Meanwhile the entire debate has been hijacked by Tory politics.
Looking at this photo , he rather fancies episode 1 of Black mirror.At the farm?
wasnt it said he fancied a return to front line politics... probably wouldnt happen though
Johnson will go that route if he gets a sniff. He's been in close contact with Bannon
There will be a difficult choice to be made alright:
a) Build a wall but no longer being able to follow a Saudi owned United.
b) Leave ourselves exposed to a military controlled by Boris Johnson or Jacob Rees-Mogg.
Blair 'prayed' while Dubya, eyes flickering, remained standing.
You think? I get the impression there’s a shit load of Labour MP’s and voters who very much want to stay in the EU. Despite Jezza’s stance.
But loudest voices were. We had those eu protests marches and people like Alastair Campbell talking about how awful lying is in politics. Recent polling showed labour have barely been effected by Brexit in terms of it's voting base. Whatever the problems are with Labour position it is at the moment the correct one.
Good yet the vermin tear themselves a part.
There's a rubbish little liberal party that they are free to join or vote for if they really want to stay in.
Looks like their only option. Pity really. Labour need everyone on board to have a hope of ousting the Tory wankers.
Can't see that. Deleted?
Yeah just a BBC NI journalist saying that May is doing a press conference at 5pm.
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Wonder what this is all about.
How is it their only option? It's a democracy so if the party (as a whole) disagrees with its direction then they should do something about it. If Corbyn is doing his own thing while his party want to do something else then they should feck him off...
Looking for a girlfriend I presume, seems like he found one.
No, the leave date can be extended. And the EU has deliberately placed ensuring the security of the single market and the Union above making any 'sensible' deal (relatively anyway).
Officially yes. Although it has softened. Look at McDonnell's shifting on the issue since 2016.
Yes. Basically.
Well that would be another option. If they haven’t fecked him off by now though...
They are polling at 40% while the lib dems are at 8%. Labour are doing a good job at holding together their voting base(They've increased they polling with younger voters since the last election).
So what happens now? I am terrified of the idea of Boris Johnson or any of his cronies being in power.
Indeed... This is why people get disenfranchised.
That's an outstanding conclusion to come to given how fecking awfully everyone agrees the Tories are doing.
Labour should be ten to twenty points up on the Tories, their being behind them is a damning indictment on Corbyn not a positive.
the referendum should have taken place AFTER the proposed deal was on the table, not before. no one knew what they were actually voting for. this whole thing has been an absolute farce.
They’re not forcing you to do anything. They’ve been trying to strike a deal with you for fecking ages. It’s the Uk’s inability to a) come up with an actual proposal and b) get parliament to agree to this proposal that is making no deal likely.
The clock started ticking when May invoked Article 50 and no deal was always on the cards from that moment. The fact it’s going down to the wire like this is 100% on the Uk government.
You weren't going to have a proposed deal before because unless article 50 was triggered the UK had a legal right to not only attend all meetings but have a say in the decisions.
Good twitter thread
Also if there's this massive support for remaining why is lib dems polling so shite ? Again saying labour should be x points a head is living in a fantasy land.
And losing Labour voters/politicians to the Lib Dems because they have a much clearer stance on Brexit will help only one party, the Tories.
Anyone thought of taking their finger off the self-destruct button? Looking on in disbelief.
They aren't losing any voters to the lib dems or at least not enough to off set the loses that would come from leave voting labour voters.
On the Lib Dem point surely a big factor is that they haven't been forgiven by the centre-left voters they had for the Coalition, and students haven't forgiven them for tuition fees. That and their record in Government was woeful - they didn't even propose same-sex marriage but left that to Cameron.
Yea I know, it was rhetorical. Decent summary tho
