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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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I dread to think, why do people want to destroy their country's economy?

I'm so glad I no longer live there, pity the people who are going to suffer.

Just listened to May's speech. Delusion doesn't come close.
One month from the end of negotiations and she still hasn't presented the EU with her "proposal"
She doesn't understand what's wrong with Chequers, I suggests she reads it.
Furthermore, she expects the EU to come up with a proposal that damages the integrity of the EU.
Think she's lost the plot completely.
It will stop the foreigners coming over here and stealing our jobs ,or something like that.
 
There has to be another referendum there's no other way this will end well.
 
I dread to think, why do people want to destroy their country's economy?

I'm so glad I no longer live there, pity the people who are going to suffer.

Just listened to May's speech. Delusion doesn't come close.
One month from the end of negotiations and she still hasn't presented the EU with her "proposal"
She doesn't understand what's wrong with Chequers, I suggests she reads it.
Furthermore, she expects the EU to come up with a proposal that damages the integrity of the EU.
Think she's lost the plot completely.
Oh she understands. This entire brexit expedition is about internal party politics. Only when you realise that, do you understand her madness.
As Ian Dunt put it yesterday, "Clarity would kill May". She can't provide clear direction on brexit and maintain party control. It just isn't possible. The only way is to fudge her way through the process and hope the EU play along till the last minute, when one side of her party would cave.
The EU gave up on May ever getting party control and coming up with a clear plan so decided to tell her to feck off. They are tired of playing along.
 
Really can't wait till we get that £350 million per week for the NHS - then at least we will have something good out of this right? Right?! *bashes head off wall*
 
Really can't wait till we get that £350 million per week for the NHS - then at least we will have something good out of this right? Right?! *bashes head off wall*
Feel for you NI folks. Our exiecon here would be hit incredibly hard in the event of no deal but yours would be decimated.
The Tories are going to impose the mother of all austerity and government policies the GOP can only dream of.
 
Feel for you NI folks. Our exiecon here would be hit incredibly hard in the event of no deal but yours would be decimated.
The Tories are going to impose the mother of all austerity and government policies the GOP can only dream of.

Tell me about it. At least a guy who now lives in Canada can tell me to be quiet and not make a fuss about the border, etc. because the war and so on - that makes me feel better.
 
Oh she understands. This entire brexit expedition is about internal party politics. Only when you realise that, do you understand her madness.
As Ian Dunt put it yesterday, "Clarity would kill May". She can't provide clear direction on brexit and maintain party control. It just isn't possible. The only way is to fudge her way through the process and hope the EU play along till the last minute, when one side of her party would cave.
The EU gave up on May ever getting party control and coming up with a clear plan so decided to tell her to feck off. They are tired of playing along.

The last line is especially true, they were going to play along but can see nothing will change and they're fed up with all the nonsense.

They've said all along, Brexit is not the only thing they want to deal with and they just want to move on.
 
No one is bullying the UK on anything really. All the EU is doing is turning down any deal that can compromise the integrity of the single market.
 
:lol: would be hailed if result had gone your way huh

An issue that complex should never have been put to a vote by a public who can't be reasonably expected to understand the implications of it.

Not that I expect any more input than the usual emoji's and glib remarks from you.
 
Yes I'm applying it to todays europe as im sure those goals are relevant today

So you are arguing that there have been no evolution going in the direction of these goals from 1960 to 2018?
 
The EU’s position seems pretty clear to me: Norway, Canada or WTO, pick one.
 
An issue that complex should never have been put to a vote by a public who can't be reasonably expected to understand the implications of it.

Not that I expect any more input than the usual emoji's and glib remarks from you.
My point is this is only outrageous because the result didn’t go the way you wanted. Scottish referendum vote as an example...
 
Corbyn , the mouse, has spoken/squeaked , nothing worthwhile or of any substance but still.

"Theresa May’s Brexit negotiating strategy has been a disaster. The Tories have spent more time arguing among themselves than negotiating with the EU.

From day one, the Prime Minister has looked incapable of delivering a good Brexit deal for Britain. The political games from both the EU and our Government need to end because no deal is not an option."
 
My point is this is only outrageous because the result didn’t go the way you wanted. Scottish referendum vote as an example...

Which is flatly untrue.

With that said, the blatant lies and disgusting xenophobia employed by the leave campaign and certain 'media' outlets were also outrageous.
 
Corbyn , the mouse, has spoken/squeaked , nothing worthwhile or of any substance but still.

"Theresa May’s Brexit negotiating strategy has been a disaster. The Tories have spent more time arguing among themselves than negotiating with the EU.

From day one, the Prime Minister has looked incapable of delivering a good Brexit deal for Britain. The political games from both the EU and our Government need to end because no deal is not an option."
Rubbish statement.

He should have used this moment to call for a second referendum. He’d be heading to No 10 if he did.
 
Anyone outraged over the last couple of pages of the childish instagram posts by Tusk? Or those actions are fine?
 
Rubbish statement.

He should have used this moment to call for a second referendum. He’d be heading to No 10 if he did.

It's probably not as simple as that, although his handling of Brexit has been crap.
 
The EU’s position seems pretty clear to me: Norway, Canada or WTO, pick one.
It has always been clear to anyone that wasn't blinkered or ignorant. We are the ones that want nothing to do with those options and want something new.
 
So you are arguing that there have been no evolution going in the direction of these goals from 1960 to 2018?
At certain points in that period I'd say yes, right now Europe is a mess. I'm also sorry I missed a documentary with Despicable Dijsselbloem this week who returned to Greece to see poverty caused by him and his mates, he admitted they got it very wrong but that's ok, in 50 years it might return to the 20th century. Him and his sort I'd like to see publicly stoned, they are scum.
 
Sky are saying that she has thrown the ball back into the EU's court with her speech. The things is that she has said nothing new so what has she batted back?
 
Grandstanding nonsense. The EU have already told you to feck off.

Demands new proposals from EU? What the absolute feck does she think this is? This is the equivalent of a group of friends going out for dinner and one declaring at the end they won't be paying, but can they please see the desert menu and then throwing a strop when the other dinner guests say get the feck on with yourself if you're not paying... Planet Brexit.
 
I never wanted the referendum.
As long as you’re happy then eh.

Ps you do realise UKIP were hemoragging votes from major parties 3m at last election before referendum.
Be thankful that Cameron took action (of the referendum) before a potential utter shock of UKIP becoming king-makers or even in power (as absurd as it sounds these days) - you’d have just been extracted out.

Be objective.
 
At certain points in that period I'd say yes, right now Europe is a mess. I'm also sorry I missed a documentary with Despicable Dijsselbloem this week who returned to Greece to see poverty caused by him and his mates, he admitted they got it very wrong but that's ok, in 50 years it might return to the 20th century. Him and his sort I'd like to see publicly stoned, they are scum.

Okay, so your initial post was inaccurate and out of context then. I shouldn't have to repeat it regularly but first the EU as a supranational organization isn't perfect, there are multiple examples of mistakes made by the member states and also the EU administration, so at no point we should consider that the EU is perfect and can't be criticized. Greece is an example of it, Greece shouldn't have been in the EU in the first place because they weren't ready for it, their economy and administration weren't ready and we put them in a position where they were bound to fail.
Now it doesn't mean that we should go the other way and act as if the EU was mainly counter productive that would be a total fallacy, from 1952 to 2018 Europe has been in its best shape politically, economically and socially. Of course we witnessed ups and downs and sometimes the answers to downs weren't appropriate but we need to keep in mind that the answers have been mainly provided by national governments and that at a supranational level member states have the last say.
 
As long as you’re happy then eh.

Ps you do realise UKIP were hemoragging votes from major parties 3m at last election before referendum.
Be thankful that Cameron took action (of the referendum) before a potential utter shock of UKIP becoming king-makers or even in power (as absurd as it sounds these days) - you’d have just been extracted out.

Be objective.
I am objective (unlike you based on this thread) but for me the stability of staying in the EU seems better than the uncertainty and economic harm that Brexit brings.

You do understand that British people will lose their jobs because of Brexit (even more so if it's a no deal)? It's not good for Europe either because it impacts them economically as well. Basically neither side gets anything good out of this.