There was nothing out of context, i work with dozens of people that would love to be close to their families in the poorer parts of europe but inequality of the whole zone means they cant get work or good salaries. All fom has done is break these families up, fantastic job. Might have been better to bring the poorer countries up to standards in he west. I shouldnt have ti repeat myself on this issue but i feel you ignored it the first hundred times.
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The naive, fall for all the broken promises and lies camp?
Sorry I don't mean to be rude and actually hope this comes to be. But I have no faith in the Tories to put any money into the NHS.
It was out of context, the context of the discussion was about the EEC not being sold as more than a trade union, that's what Honest John said and he provided the leaflets from the 75 referendum. You then decided to make a point that had nothing to with it and also admitted that it wasn't an accurate one.
I love how the people most happy about brexit in this thread don't even live in the UK. Says it all really.
Yeah, she’s fecked it now.
What would be wrong with UKIP (or any other anti EU party) continuing to campaign until they could win enough seats in parliament and get a mandate for leaving the EU? Daft to suggest a referendum was the best way to go about this. Even millions of leavers would agree with that. It’s the reason we are now in crisis
What would be wrong with UKIP (or any other anti EU party) continuing to campaign until they could win enough seats in parliament and get a mandate for leaving the EU? Daft to suggest a referendum was the best way to go about this. Even millions of leavers would agree with that. It’s the reason we are now in crisis
A party that had never won a seat (ignoring a defection) was about to be king maker? It was Cameron's arrogance after the Scotland referendum (combined with him being oblivious to the risk involved due to knowing nothing about England beyond the rich parts of London and Oxfordshire) that got us into this mess.
Can someone change the thread title, I keep reading it as french sailors with cocks.
Thought you were smarter than that.
Guess I've inadvertently fallen into that category. Want the UK to get absolutely shafted.
The most unhappy dont either
I keep reading "frocks"
The first point can have pretty big implications. Any EU member could veto your WTO membership, other countries would have no reason to trust your signature and there would be trade consequences from your main buyers and sellers. The second point is inaccurate since you control all of those things right now.
Yeah, that's sailors for you.
How is the second point inaccurate?!
Can or cannot anyone from the EU simply just walk in and settle into our country, no questions asked?!
Can we go ahead and do a trade deal with err I dunno, Nigeria for apples with 0% tariffs because our country is in huge need of them?
I don’t have the energy to keep typing, and I come across so aggressive when I type, which I don’t like, but I’m trying to make points - easier to chat in person (as I’ve offered @Raoul!)
The Uk still have to pay the bill, deal or no deal.
There will be no money to invest in the NHS .
Borders you already control, money there won't be much, we know the trading policy already, open day for everyone, dumping ground of the world ; laws the UK make most of them, only the ones reducing the UKs standards and people's rights will be different.
Economic recession, rich people getting richer, poor people getting poorer.
Who could possibly not want this
Oh wait, so it IS all correct and only major issue is now N.Ireland, is that what you’re saying?!
How is the second point inaccurate?!
Can or cannot anyone from the EU simply just walk in and settle into our country, no questions asked?!
Can we go ahead and do a trade deal with err I dunno, Nigeria for apples with 0% tariffs because our country is in huge need of them?
I don’t have the energy to keep typing, and I come across so aggressive when I type, which I don’t like, but I’m trying to make points - easier to chat in person (as I’ve offered @Raoul!)
No, they can't. They have to be working or they're not allowed to stay after a certain period of time.
Ps. Elephant in the room for all of you guys that are so anti Tories and what Cameron did; we were heading for a monumental financial issue, we are errr pretty fecking poor as a nation!
No - I'm asking you to explain how the Irish border issue gets solved in your scenario of all these riches coming our way from a no-deal brexit. No mention of it in that tweet so I'd hoped you could enlighten me.
Damn the rich aristocrats that would want to settle in the UK with all their capital.
Plus, after how long was that consession even considered...no one has time and energy for these jokers in Brussels.
There's very little evidence to suggest austerity really works in the long-term. Most major economists discredit it as an approach.
I’m direct and frank, don’t know or care very much about Ireland / N.Ireland border thing (am guessing like most folks in then UK).
Me personally, I’d tell Brussels, let’s keep trading, we actually don’t want ANY tariffs between us, so goods don’t need all these stringent checks. If you think we need tariffs etc, then sure....let us know how, your call. Simples.
Sure, nothing boosts an economy more than draining resources from it, cutting jobs and limiting investment..
It appears that nobody in the EU has time or energy for us UK jokers.
Greece say hi.
Keep spending and borrowing and keep begging the world for more and to bail us out. It’s almost as you LIKE being under the thumb.
Tariffs are not the major problem.
How is the second point inaccurate?!
Can or cannot anyone from the EU simply just walk in and settle into our country, no questions asked?!
Can we go ahead and do a trade deal with err I dunno, Nigeria for apples with 0% tariffs because our country is in huge need of them?
I don’t have the energy to keep typing, and I come across so aggressive when I type, which I don’t like, but I’m trying to make points - easier to chat in person (as I’ve offered @Raoul!)
It's inacurrate because you chose to make deals as members of an union, you decided to give the right to EU citizens, companies, capitals and goods to enter your territory without the need of individual authorizations, these are your laws. The EU is your current Nigerian apples deal and as you witnessed with brexit you are free to unilaterally inform your partners that you don't want that anymore.
Fair enough, worrying about their recent populist, anti establishment and often anti EU political changes, I’d be worried too!
At least you are honest about it - sadly for you and others like you who don't know or care about my country are discovering that actually the EU views Ireland and the GFA as being rather important and it is the one issue that has derailed brexit entirely and for this I am extremely happy.
As you have now admitted you don't know or care about Northern Ireland or the border issue it would be really lovely if you stopped talking to me in a patronising way about it as if you are some sort of expert on it and that I know nothing. Cheers.
Compelling arguments have been made to you a thousand times in the past, every time you straight up ignore everything and repeat your nonsense soundbites and glib remarks, or ask bullshit rhetorical questions to dance around direct points.
It's always the same shit with you.
No, they can't, as you almost certainly know full well but will continue to suggest they can to try and paint a bullshit narrative.
You're either a wum or moron, and I'm honestly not sure which.
When did we agree for this political union and being one big pseudo country though?
It's not a concession, it's a rule since 2003.
You can reign in public spending and not go mad without making drastic cuts to the public sector. It's hardly one extreme or the other. Indeed the US were under a right-wing government during the financial crisis who were hardly for the public sector and yet still felt the effects themselves. And there are other ways to bring more money into the economy - certainly cutting taxes isn't one of them, albeit it's the Tory approach.
Since day one(Rome treaty 1957) before you even joined.
You may not care but the issue is fundamental to this whole process. Either we implement a border and violate the GFA, thus risking chaos in a part of the UK, or we don't implement a border which means we need to ensure freedom of movement with the EU remains open. You can't try to argue a topic while actively acknowledging you don't care about one of the most significant issues impeding it simply because you don't care or it doesn't suit your argument.
I disagree, but your patronising and aggressive tone isn’t welcomed.
I’m humouring you Remainers that are still crying over a referendum result 2 years ago!
I love it how when you ask Remainers re specific details (re what does the EU look like exactly in 20 years from now etc) that’s an absurd question, one cannot possible know every nook and cranny of it, but for Brexiteers we should know every minute detail, every repercussion etc etc.
Coming from a person who doesn't know or care about the single core issue in the brexit negotiations that is yet to be overcome it seems a bit hypocritical of you to try and discredit other people's views due to a lack of detail.