Yep I'm totally reassured .
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Yep I'm totally reassured .
Supply and demand, perhaps instead of focusing on the demand from foreigners we focus on the supply problem. Also the cost of housing is totally detached from any reality of supply and demand.
It’s a combination of media and simple psychology. People who aren’t used to being around people who look or sound or act differently, have more fear of the ‘other’ than people who are regularly surrounded by them. It’s a pretty basic societal instinct. Luckily when people are put into a new environment we adapt very quickly.
They could put a stop to that rent to buy shite for a start..
You can't just come into this thread and leave a dump on the page like that and walk away.
Bring your doggy bag with you next time
Thatch could have stopped the selling off of council houses but she didnt. Yes, you can go back that far.
And what about those who rent privately?
Sorry only just seen this reply. If you are genuinely saying that supply and demand has no impact on the cost of housing then you are just plain wrong.
Not even a little bit of racism? Really?
As for the rest
Are you Boris Buffoon Johnson?
Only a little?
You can focus on whatever you want but that won’t stop other people (i.e. voters) being aware of the demand side of that equation. Which similarly applies to demand on other services, such as healthcare and education. This doesn’t mean they are racist.
The cost of housing has grown because of the cheap supply of money, not population
They focus on demand because politicians feed their prejudice whilst cutting taxes and services
Working and paying taxes, which in the normal scheme of things should help pay for more housing
I understand stockpiling for a huge storm, or severe winter...
But how does it work when you're stockpiling for a new status that will remain indefinitely? Those need to be some huge fecking stockpiles.
Might be a blessing at this rate.
So you agree that Leave voters worried about increasing demand on resources, with finite supply? Good. Once again, that isn’t racist.
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The supply of housing is not finite. We build more every year. We just don't build enough. If you blame migrants for this instead of the Government the you are a racist
It is finite. Space, material, money and labour are all finite resources that are crucial to housing creation. Now, it's true that the UK do not lack any of these things at the moment.
You’re being ridiculously pedantic with your first two sentences and seem to completely misunderstand what racism actually means with your fourth (and in numerous previous posts). So I’m not going to take this any further.
bonus points if you blame foreign builders and tradespeople
I'd argue the conclusion of housing demand being an issue caused by immigration stems from a racist viewpoint in most (not all) cases. We've all heard the drunken idiot in pubs moaning about an endless list of issues caused by immigration, now is he actually moaning about the problems (that don't exist in most cases) or is it just that they know they're the only statements they can express?
It's easy for these people to hide behind such statements.
First of all, concern about immigration being a drain on resources (whether or not it's valid) is not the same thing as racism.
If they were moaning about how the immigrants aren't integrating into British culture and bringing with them cultural norms that are bad for society then yes, that's pretty close to racism. And this is definitely happening too. It's an incredibly simplistic view (which mozza is prone to, with his stream of pithy one liners) to lump all the different concerns about immigration (and all the different people expressing them) into one big, amorphous, racist bunch of people. Which is not to say that there aren't a whole load of racists in amongst that bunch of people because there obviously is.
Apart from anything else, there's already been data in this thread showing that a lot of POC voted Leave, presumably because of these concerns about unchecked immigration. How are they being racist, exactly? And to whom?
The problem of not building enough houses is exacerbated by the 200k or whatever it is net migration into the country each year (whatever Mozza says to the contrary, I've given up responding to him on that). Don't see how that could possibly be considered a racist statement, its basic economic theory.
Agreed. And I'd argue that the unwillingness of politicians to engage with the general public and have a 'grown up' debate on the subject over the last Christ knows how many years has ultimately resulted in Brexit and the growth of extreme far right politics in general.
It's counter productive to shout people down who and pigeon hole them all as racists when some of them have genuine concerns and issues that need addressing on their own merits. Dismissing people off hand will only push them further to the right.
Not to mention that local councils in the UK have beem selling off council owned flats and apartments for the last decade to private investors, reducing the number of council housing available.
Private landlords dont take rent allowance either (for the most part).
Which has greatly exascerbated the housing crisis in thw UK. You get 4 young single / couples pooling together to rent a small 2 or 3 bedroom apartment in central London and now locals who required affordable housing are pushed out of the market.
There is a very good television series by Phil from Location Location Location all about it and also some very informative lectures by Yanis varoufakis on you tube aboht it.
Im not eve from the UK and I know that. Mozza should take his heqd out of his arse.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...g-uk-lowest-level-records-began-a8059371.html
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https://www.byline.com/column/22/article/2244
There seems to be a minor narrative building over the reunification of Ireland
There seems to be a minor narrative building over the reunification of Ireland
That's mostly Thatcher's fault. The right to buy wasn't paired with any requirement to replenish the social housing stock and investment in housing then remained too low over successive government.
Stop posting your Daily Mail comments Jippy!
sounds like my old man tbh - the cnut
Mrs May has the same hairstyle as Lawro.
Definitely saw this one on question time a couple of weeks ago, and the week before that and the week before that....
It's actually got nearly seven times more upvotes than downvotes!
I don't even think that's too bad for the daily fail.That chap from Hitchin sounds like an intelligent person.
Am I doing this right?
Am I doing this right?
We are not running out of space any time soon, nor materials, labour problems would only be exacerbated by cutting migration. There is plenty of money to fund tax cuts and pay for wars and send to private landlords via housing benefit, redirect it
Like the folks who blame the housing crisis on migration, they are blaming eu migrants for the problems their kin have getting visas as non eu nationals, instead of the Tories.
And that makes them racist?!
You have the most insanely all-encompassing definition of a racist I’ve ever heard.
