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Never saw that one coming.
There's been Lancaster House, Mansion House, Florence, Chequers all of which were a load of bilge.
Tower of London sounds good, they can effect the usual punishment if it all goes wrong yet again.
https://www.scribd.com/document/384...ter-to-Mr-Arron-Banks-25-July-2018#from_embed
Channel 4 letter to Arron Banks accusing him, among other things, of planning to use mercenaries to control aspects of Lesotho's economy.
Channel 4 letter to Arron Banks accusing him, among other things, of planning to use mercenaries to control aspects of Lesotho's economy.
A third of the comments are as entertaining. One of them offers to have tariffs free trades with everyone in the EU but France and Germany who will have to suffer WTO rules, you have to wonder why these two in particular and the lack of understanding of WTO rules.
There were no sensible reasons but I suppose some of the leave voters must have thought that if many big names in the ruling party (Johnson, Gove, Davis, Fox) were saying we could have our cake and eat it, then maybe it could be done - “freedom” plus prosperity. A large part of the blame ultimately lies with those charlatans and fantasists in the senior echelons of the Tory Party.
I love this one personally, perfect embodiment of leave voter and their understanding of how EU works:
Lineker has backed the Peoples Vote
To be fair, their Russian sponsors are very good at that sort of thing.
In Brexitland France and Germany govern the UK. Has any Brexiter ever made any sense or shown a grasp of any knowledge of how the EU or WTO operates?
Surprise!
Thought it would be more tbh.
Kind of makes you wonder what the other 55% were about?
The NHS and jobs that the EU prevents. This ad is interesting though because it's not about immigration but...:
The visuals make that pretty clearly about immigration alright.
Yup, that's the interesting part. The main message isn't about immigration but the visual is, so I wonder if they counted these type of ads. I also fear that xenophobia is part of the message.
Montenegro and Albania are gonna be great for the EU. Once the Adriatic-Ionian motorway is finished it's going to be one of the great routes of the world, there's going to some amazing travelling holidays for people who fancy driving, or joining a tour bus, from Italy to Greece.
Yeah, Eastern European holiday destinations are getting more and more popular and it feels like we’re still barely scratching the surface. My folks were in Bulgaria a couple of weeks back and were completely blown away. They’re in their 70s and have travelled all over Europe but that whole region north of Greece was always a complete mystery to them.
A lot of British seniors here.
I would lie low with that username mate.
The issue is planning really. I know this is a Brexit thread but planning is a key aspect. While 350,000 net per annum seems negligble lets remember the population of Coventry is 360,000 and is the 15th biggest population in the UK. That is a significant increase in population and the strain that puts on national services is tremendous. You can hide your head in the sand but when you think about services like heqlthcare, schooling, housing, infrastructure... not to mention job creation. 1 million migrants over a three year period is not sustainable anywhere, regardless of where the migrants are coming from. You can make all the post-colonialism arguments you like but that is not sustainable, especially when you consider a very large portion of those migrants are unskilled with little to no finances.
Conversely, though, a lot of those immigrants are working for those national services. NHS being the prime example.
I hear you and numbers when you just say numbers sound scary as it is. 1m in 3 years becomes 2m in 6.
However given the fact that immigrants are essential to services like healthcare and building infrastructure as well as the many jobs that need to be done add on the fact that we have and will have a significantly older population, just explain how it is unsustainable, rather than simply saying numbers or saying it will affect services without considering the essential side they bring.
Things to say in conversation when backing Brexit without having to reveal yourself as a vile racist?
Probably.
Montenegro is Ok but Croatia is far far better.
45% about immigration, 15% lies and 40% racist dog-whistling are the official figures I believe
See this is why the immigration conversation is almost taboo, because people assume when you bring it up that you're anti-immigration (not saying either of you assumed that btw). For me being anti-immigration would be impossible since I'm an Irishman living in Australia, who is about to move the UK and hopefully on to the US a couple of years after that.
Immigration is essential, especially when it comes to diversification of culture and ideas. I am also an advocate of refugee intake.
However, migration has to be managed because there are major issues to not managing it properly. That is on both sides of the coin too, for the country receiving immigrants unmanaged and for the immigrants themselves. There are many 'invisible' immigrants in the US, UK, Europe and Australia. Illegal immigrants being exploited and unable to avail of essential services like healthcare and government benefits, unable to go to the police when they are attacked, even raped in some cases.
Managing immigration properly allows for key services to be implemented to ensure that the experience of the immigrants is optimised. And you can't solve the problems of the world in one day, opening borders would simply move the issues people are fleeing from to another place. The execution of immigration policy has to be strategic and considered.
Probably one of the major problems in Britain with regard to immigration and national services and the influence on Joe Public and the leave campaign is that not all issue faced in Britain are related to immigration. There has been a sustained period of austerity that has hit national services. Average people see the waiting queues etc. and hear the immigration debates that are largely over-stated and blame immigrants for problems probably caused more by bad planning and a lack of investment by the government.
All that doesn't mean that a proper managed approach to immigration isn't something that should be applied. Especially in years of austerity... Imagine the government has been cutting funding whilst at the very same time net migration has been steadily increasing. That's how it is unsustainable.
Looks like Kate Hoey is fecked.
Interesting to see how Corbyn plays this one..