if the phrase blue labour was ever perfectly embodied by one person
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if the phrase blue labour was ever perfectly embodied by one person
If that's the case, surely we should start with those working closely with the EU, like say MEPs.
This country is going fecking insane.
These are just your personal prejudices .
There are plenty of rich people who are thick and lazy, the government should give you a clue.
The other half are committing economic sabotage of the country so that is surely treacherous , there'll be no-one left, more room for immigrants!
It depends, maybe they have been sabotaging the EU from the inside?
Very possibly the amount of effort they put in for their tasty eu wage.
Are you actually denying the historic demonisation of the poor in this country as thick and lazy?
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You don't have to be poor to be thick or lazy and just because you are poor doesn't mean that you are thick or lazy.
There are plenty of poor people who are highly intelligent and hard working.
You have to hand it to him. Opening with the sentence "Voting to leave isn't racism" and then making borderline racist remarks is truly incredible.
I reckon you’ll find a lot of the anti-EU sentiments in that blog are also held by the leader of her party.
Correct. Exactly what I was saying. So what's this about my prejudices? I simply pointed out that the poor have always been regarded by some of the better off as being thick and lazy.
We're 90 years on from the abolition of the workhouse as part recognition that poverty is socially determined and not just because people are thick and lazy but you wouldn't think it reading some comments in here. It's the same narrative.
I have no interest in pulling together with someone like you or your ilk. I do not belong in your culture.
The way you phrased it seemed like only the rich thought that, people without money also think that.
I know plenty of people who have a lot of money, who are highly qualified, educated but have no common sense at all and could be classed as thick.
My problem with the whole Brexit issue is that a lot of people voted not because of what they knew but what they were told by people with malicious intent or what they thought they knew. You don't have to be highly educated to understand or find out about basic facts or realise people are lying to you.
You are having an issue understanding what I am saying. You see what you want to see.
They've voted differently on Brexit legislation
Well, obviously. If Corbyn had made his anti-EU agenda as blatant as she has, then it really would be game over for him as the Labour party leader.
No you obviously don't have to be highly educated in order to figure stuff out. But I think the chance you will want to investigate whether or not you're being lied to is higher if you're educated (most importantly you've actually been taught how to see through all the guff). And when you're dealing with millions of people increasing that probability slightly could move loads of votes.
Sadly that involves being aware of one's own ignorance, which too many are too ignorant to realise. There are also people who seem proud to reject expert opinion or facts.
what does this mean?
Nope I'm just not willing to engage with people who are arrogant enough to brand a whole demographic as thick morons. Cheers.
And therein lies your problem... I did not say at all that the whole demographic are thick morons. I specifically stated that those particular people in the poorest areas who voted out of racist intentions are Thick morons not just because they are racist but also by biting the hand that feeds them since the subsidies the EU give the only companies they work for will be forced to lay them off and most likely relocate to other countries.
If I actually wanted to say that everyone was a thick moron I would have absolutely no problem with say that. This is the last time I will clarify for you. However, if you keep continuing to miscomprehend my posts and misrepresent me then you are kind of labelling yourself as one yourself.
My advice to you is to stop doubling down on your claim. I have made it 100% clear now.
Some people shouldn't be allowed a keyboard is what it means.
When people bandy accusations of being "thick" about I often wonder what they mean by it. Is it not having an education or is it a low I.Q. or a combination of the two? If it's low I.Q. then I don't understand the vilification. Do we poke fun at those who are less intelligent? If its a lack of education is that also something to beat people with? Would there be any consideration for the determinants of poor education or just a levelling of blame at the individual who has suffered from it?
Your last sentence suggests you believe that people who "don't find out about basic facts" are lazy. Is this what you think? Or would you say theres an issue of apathy or that there are matters of self esteem, for example, that influence people's ability to inform and educate themselves?
That's racist.
Nah, Racism is a political tool used to promote multi culturalism which is promotion and celebration of immigration.
Nah, Racism is a political tool used to promote multi culturalism which is promotion and celebration of immigration.
But you are definitely a psychopathic dictator and probably unelected.
I just want to see European Cultures crash and burn!
it's racist if you call you someone racist galaxybrain.jpg
I dont think the majority of people are racist, but I think a lot of them have been duped into believing racist and bigoted things by a very strong propaganda machine that paints immigrants as job thieves and benefit scroungers. If you get told something often enough and theres no counter to it, its easy to understand why people might believe it. At least I prefer that idea to the one where everyone around me is a cnut.
I'm not the one who's decided he'd rather starve then put up with a neighbour talking in foreign
This is your mind on Brain Force +
I agree that people should inform themselves, I disagree that it wouldn't be difficult. Considering the strong propaganda machines that push narratives rather than facts. Where does one get unbiased information? And if you arent savvy to whos who in the propaganda war, how can you possibly know whats right or who to listen to? But one things for sure, its not a meme. And theres far too many people thinking memes are the be all and end all when it comes to facts.
Most people around us are cnuts, ourselves included.
yeah, but we're cnuts in a fun, laugh at you when you fall and break a leg kinda way.If people can't be bothered about informing themselves or if they apathetic or they have a low IQ and can't understand the issue at hand or whatever the reason is that they can't have an informed opinion then why vote on something they haven't got a clue what they are voting for.
I have no problem with people voting for the opposite of my opinion provided that they did it in an informed way.
PS these are your words to @EyeInTheSky
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'Tell me sir why did you vote leave?'
'Sovereignty init? Take back control'
'Control what specifically?'
'Control of our borders'
'Sovereignty init? Take back control'
'Control what specifically?'
'Control of our borders'
But for people to inform themselves they shouldn't listen to the Daily Mail, the Guardian, Farage , me, you or anyone.
Don't listen to people's opinions, find out the facts, in this day and age it's so easy.