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Asked whether Hunt’s threat of declining British-EU relations, or the Brexit secretary Dominic Raab’s threat of the UK not paying £39bn in outstanding bills if trade talks stalled, were the kind of good manners usually associated of the British, Maas replied: “At the recent Nato summit I took part in bilateral talks with [the Turkish president] Mr Erdoğan and Mr Trump, so good manners are always relative.”

Who says the Germans don't have a sense of humour..
 
May up in Newcastle doing a Q&A with the public. The highlight?

"Q: Are there any plans to reduce the cost of university education? Up here it is easy to get on a ferry and go to Holland for university.

May says the government is looking at this at the moment. Cutting the length of university courses from three years to two years might be an option, she says."


Ffs..
 
They don't want oiks in universities. They only want middle and upper-class kids to be educated.
Ultimately for everyone to get a university education they will need to lower the standards.

We'll wind up with a glut of people with 2:1 business degrees, flipping burgers and nobody with any vocational skills to solve the country's productivity problem.

There should be a wider choice of career path for young people - and for the country.
 
Ultimately for everyone to get a university education they will need to lower the standards.

We'll wind up with a glut of people with 2:1 business degrees, flipping burgers and nobody with any vocational skills to solve the country's productivity problem.

There should be a wider choice of career path for young people - and for the country.

Who wants everyone to get a university education? It should be open to anyone who qualifies, but it shouldn't be just something that everyone gets. Is Labour pushing for that or are you just throwing out a strawman?
 
Who wants everyone to get a university education? It should be open to anyone who qualifies, but it shouldn't be just something that everyone gets. Is Labour pushing for that or are you just throwing out a strawman?
Where else can you sit around dossing for years smoking dope and pissing it up? And all that at the same time as studying for a degree as a gnat surgeon.
 
Where else can you sit around dossing for years smoking dope and pissing it up? And all that at the same time as studying for a degree as a gnat surgeon.

Sure, those darn kids should be straight down the pits doing an honest days work for an honest days pay! They don’t know how easy they have it, not like in our day. We’d walk 12 miles to school with no shoes in the snow.. etc etc..
 
Sure, those darn kids should be straight down the pits doing an honest days work for an honest days pay! They don’t know how easy they have it, not like in our day. We’d walk 12 miles to school with no shoes in the snow.. etc etc..
No shoes?!? We used to dream of having no shoes!
 
Degrees should be free for vocations that the country actually needs like engineering and medicine.

If someone wants to spend 3 years doing Beyoncé Studies or something equally useless they should pay for it.

Likewise the education system should offer easier routes into useful, practical apprenticeships.

All IMO.
 
The gullibles will believe anything that comes out of his mouth.
Because they will believe what they want to believe.

That's the difference , they don't have the capacity to be able to tell when someone is obviously telling lies.

You do realise that Mogg is a backbencher and not in the cabinet?
 
Degrees should be free for vocations that the country actually needs like engineering and medicine.

If someone wants to spend 3 years doing Beyoncé Studies or something equally useless they should pay for it.

Likewise the education system should offer easier routes into useful, practical apprenticeships.

All IMO.


That's such a shit idea. The country needs culture too, maybe you don't care about art but it's part of who we are and I'm glad that there are people who are passionate about that kind of stuff and able to further the understanding of people who aren't so passionate.
 
Degrees should be free for vocations that the country actually needs like engineering and medicine.

If someone wants to spend 3 years doing Beyoncé Studies or something equally useless they should pay for it.

Likewise the education system should offer easier routes into useful, practical apprenticeships.


All IMO.

It should, but the government we have at the moment will think that the situation where private profitable companies have countless people doing unpaid internships is a better, more cost effective option for themselves and their big-business mates.
 
If someone wants to spend 3 years doing Beyoncé Studies or something equally useless they should pay for it.
Feck's sake. There goes my hope of tenure...
 
That's such a shit idea. The country needs culture too, maybe you don't care about art but it's part of who we are and I'm glad that there are people who are passionate about that kind of stuff and able to further the understanding of people who aren't so passionate.

Apparently only the rich kids should be allowed to become artists, musicians and authors.
 
Apparently only the rich kids should be allowed to become artists, musicians and authors.


I hate it when people moan about poncey degrees. That's pretty much the fecking point of universities, to further knowledge and stimulate creativity. It's not to churn out cnuts looking to get loaded working in finance.
 
So? If you think someone simply being Catholic is a reason to trust them then you either have no expose to the Catholic Church or don't want to realise the pure evil visited upon mainly children by the church. My point is that being a Catholic doesn't make you any more or less likely to be selfish or trustworthy than an Muslim or an Atheist.

Mogg hasn't shown himself to be a career politician like the others. He's more passionate about his beliefs than his political career.


The EU wants us to remain but if we insist on leaving then they want us to leave on the date we decided to leave. Why would they allow us to carry on proposing stuff that is never going to be acceptable for another 2 years? To extend takes the agreement of all 27 members and it is going to take a commitment to another referendum at the very least for them all to agree to let us have longer to get our shit together.

We have a weak prime minister who changes her mind like the wind.


David Davis and plans are 2 things you don't really associate with each other.

He had plans in case of no deal.

Some companies will and those who stay may do for a shorter period than they would otherwise. Those that stay will on average invest less.

Why?

No. I'm sure everyone knows we contribute about 6% of EU GDP.

About 40% of British exports go to the EU (a declining market), and when we leave the EU we shall automatically be one of the biggest customers.
 
That's such a shit idea. The country needs culture too, maybe you don't care about art but it's part of who we are and I'm glad that there are people who are passionate about that kind of stuff and able to further the understanding of people who aren't so passionate.

Nothing stopping them. But (IMO) useful, practical degrees that are likely to produce graduates that can fill gaps in the UK workforce should be incentivised.
 
Mogg hasn't shown himself to be a career politician like the others. He's more passionate about his beliefs than his political career.
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Yes he's a real down to earth, working man's man, not one of those career politicians:

Rees-Mogg was born in Hammersmith, London and educated at Eton College. He then studied History at Trinity College, Oxford, and was President of the Oxford University Conservative Association. He worked in the City of London for Lloyd George Management until 2007, then co-founded a hedge fund management business, Somerset Capital Management LLP.[4][5][6] Rees-Mogg has amassed a significant fortune: in 2016, he and his wife had a combined net worth estimated at more than £100 million. Moving into politics, he unsuccessfully contested the 1997 and 2001 general electionsbefore being elected as the MP for North East Somerset in 2010.[7] He was re-elected in 2015 and 2017. Within the Conservative Party, he joined the traditionalist and socially conservative Cornerstone Group; his views on social issues are influenced by his adherence to Roman Catholicism.
 
You do realise that Mogg is a backbencher and not in the cabinet?

Yes but it's odd that he gets so much air time and media coverage for a backbencher, strange that other backbenchers don't get the same coverage.
Farage has never even been elected to the British parliament but he got plenty of media coverage.
Wonder why that is. Who really controls the UK?

The gullibles lap it up.
 
The British government gave the electorate a choice to vote on membership with the EU. In a democratic vote we chose to leave.
If we all believe in democracy, that should be it. We leave.
 
Yes he's a real down to earth, working man's man, not one of those career politicians:

Rees-Mogg was born in Hammersmith, London and educated at Eton College. He then studied History at Trinity College, Oxford, and was President of the Oxford University Conservative Association. He worked in the City of London for Lloyd George Management until 2007, then co-founded a hedge fund management business, Somerset Capital Management LLP.[4][5][6] Rees-Mogg has amassed a significant fortune: in 2016, he and his wife had a combined net worth estimated at more than £100 million. Moving into politics, he unsuccessfully contested the 1997 and 2001 general electionsbefore being elected as the MP for North East Somerset in 2010.[7] He was re-elected in 2015 and 2017. Within the Conservative Party, he joined the traditionalist and socially conservative Cornerstone Group; his views on social issues are influenced by his adherence to Roman Catholicism.

He was born into a wealthy family, and started his own investment business. His religious principles mean that he is prepared to against the grain of popular thinking without caring whether or not it would hinder his political career.
 
Yes he's a real down to earth, working man's man, not one of those career politicians:

Rees-Mogg was born in Hammersmith, London and educated at Eton College. He then studied History at Trinity College, Oxford, and was President of the Oxford University Conservative Association. He worked in the City of London for Lloyd George Management until 2007, then co-founded a hedge fund management business, Somerset Capital Management LLP.[4][5][6] Rees-Mogg has amassed a significant fortune: in 2016, he and his wife had a combined net worth estimated at more than £100 million. Moving into politics, he unsuccessfully contested the 1997 and 2001 general electionsbefore being elected as the MP for North East Somerset in 2010.[7] He was re-elected in 2015 and 2017. Within the Conservative Party, he joined the traditionalist and socially conservative Cornerstone Group; his views on social issues are influenced by his adherence to Roman Catholicism.

Isn't greed a sin? Lying surely isn't well looked on by the church?
 
He was born into a wealthy family, and started his own investment business. His religious principles mean that he is prepared to against the grain of popular thinking without caring whether or not it would hinder his political career.

:lol: Aye he's a modern day Jesus Christ.

Here he is loving his neighbour and healing the sick and poor by *checks notes* lobbying to reduce Britains's commitment to foreign aid:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/932206/Jacob-Rees-Mogg-UK-foreign-aid-latest-budget-Britain
 
You keep ignoring facts, the UK have no choice but to erect a hard border if they leave with no deal, I think that's the 500th time someone has said that in this thread but keep ignoring all facts.

That would probably depend on the trade agreement the UK had with the EU. It is not straight forward. If the UK was to charge tariffs for goods, a border is unavoidable, but the UK doesn't have to charge tariffs. It's a complicated scenario because nobody knows what trade would be like in a no deal situation.
 
About 40% of British exports go to the EU (a declining market), and when we leave the EU we shall automatically be one of the biggest customers.

One of the UK's biggest suppliers is France (7% goes to the UK)
If all trade stopped (which it won't but ) Uk loses 40% France loses 7% notice the difference and France are one the largest, some countries in the EU hardly deal with the UK.