Doubt he'll fit through the eye of a needle, despite being a beanpole.Aye he's a modern day Jesus Christ.
Here he is loving his neighbour and healing the sick and poor by *checks notes* lobbying to reduce Britains's commitment to foreign aid:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/932206/Jacob-Rees-Mogg-UK-foreign-aid-latest-budget-Britain
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If it's no deal, there is no trade agreement, it's immediately a hard border. It's not just to do with tariffs , you've been listening to JRM too much, he doesn't know what he's talking about, or at least pretends not to.
feck me. NO DEAL means the UK doesn't have a trade agreement with the EU.
Therefore WTO rules apply, therefore there has to be a border to apply WTO tariffs. Or we charge 0 tariffs to the EU and under WTO rules have to apply that to every other country in the world.
We are already trading with the EU member states under WTO rules, which recognises a special arrangement. Once the UK collects customs at a border, it immediately becomes a hard border under WTO rules, but what if the UK does not charge tariffs?
It's a complex situation, but not necessarily a crisis if we plan for it, as the EU is also doing. Trade with the rest of the world does not affect just in time inventory with a hard border etc.
Border also for legal jurisdiction, origin of goods and a list of thousands of other reasons. JRM has taken over from Farage for conning the gullible British population.
Which would be our aim when we leave the EU.
Surely it's the EU who'll be implementing tariffs? Hence why trade will be disrupted. Obviously we want things be as easy on us as possible; that's just not an option though.
Stop talking about tariffs, that is not the main reason.See above.
The EU are getting ready for a no deal by recruiting personnel and building structures and moving their businesses from the UK and agencies and countless other things. The UK have done zilch.
That would turn the UK into the dumping ground of the world. Brilliant.
You guys do realise that "no deal" must be an option as part of our negotiations, otherwise we'll have to concede everything to the EU.
But the EU - and everyone else - knows we won't (reasonably) go for no deal because it'd be completely disastrous for us. It's like refusing to pay back money you owe to someone and trying to get out of it by throwing yourself off a building. I mean...yeah, if you do it, they're not going to get their money, but you're not exactly benefiting yourself.
There will not be a mass exodus of companies away from the UK. You've been reading too much Guardian newspaper.
Except no deal isn't viable, and we haven't prepared for it. And the EU know it isn't viable, and we haven't prepared for it. And we know they know it isn't viable and we haven't prepared for it.
Other than that it's a really sound strategy.
That's the UK's choice. You walk away , have no deals with any country in the world and have a hard border or in essence stay in the customs union and single market and avoid a hard border.
Surely it is clear by now that the UK cannot choose the bits they like from the EU.
This guy’s on a wind-up, surely?
I agree that no deal is not beneficial to both of us, but it has to remain an option in the negotiation process. That's just common sense.
It's only common sense if no deal is an option which in any way benefits us at all. It isn't. It'd be disastrous. To the point where the worst deal the EU offer us would in all likelihood be better than it.
If you're bargaining and have an opt-out, that opt-out only works as an incentive for the other party to offer you a better deal if it's a realistic path you might follow. No deal isn't. Not even remotely.
No it's you who've been wound up by the media.
All the calamitous things that were supposed to happen when we voted to leave, haven't happened, and it won't happen when we leave completely.
If we ever get to leave with this prime minister.
Common sense is not cutting ties with our largest import and export market, and the largest trading bloc in the world, which is right on our doorstep, to chase a trade agreement with a demented dictator on the other side of the world who has a proudly protectionist outlook and zero trustworthiness or credibility.
Or at least I think it is.
Or at least I think it is.
We haven't left yet though.
Companies who need to move away because of problems incurred by Brexit will do so, there's no sentiment in business. If a company cannot operate correctly or loses money because of restrictions placed on its operation through Brexit they will move.
Have first hand knowledge, not the Guardian.
So kissing the EU's arse is your negotiating strategy. I understand. The EU is also threatening us with no deal.
I get it now, you're one of these 'Y2K never happened either' morons who don't know what had to happen behind the scenes to ensure everything carried on as per normal.
The EU are not threatening anyone, I thought you just wanted to leave with no deal, Brexit means Brexit surely.
And it will be equally clear to the EU, but for some reason you see the EU as being unable to be unfair in it's dealings with the UK. Whatever the EU says is gospel for you.
They did. And then to double-check they held a general election in which the great majority of voters opted for the two parties that put quite clearly in their manifestos that they intended to leave. As it said on the side of the bus, pay attention who you fecking vote for next time. Remainers who voted Tory or Labour, I'm talking to you!
Wow. You are serious. You’re obviously not a fan of the Guardian, so will everyone’s favourite hippy/communist publication, the Financial Times work for you as a source?
This shit is already happening. And Britain is still in the EU. I’m not sure why I’m replying though. If you’re not a wind up then you’re so deep in denial that nothing anyone can say will change your mind.
Of course I'd like a trade deal with EU member states, but one that does not compromise the referendum vote too much.
What is unfair, the EU have rules, four freedoms that are indivisible. Are you in or out? You're out, then that's all there is to say.
Tell me why companies will have a need to leave the UK post brexit?
Again. Not sure if serious. Surely that’s obvious?
A trade deal will be negotiated after the UK have left. How many years that will take nobody knows.
What is being debated now are still the same three items on the agenda which have been there since the start.
1. Citizens rights 2. The Irish Border 3. Payment agreement of what the UK owes or will owe the EU.
Until they are finalised nothing will happen with regards to trade deals and time is running out fast. A withdrawal agreement covering those items has to be signed up to by October/November at the latest and then ratified by the other 27 member states and possibly by the UK parliament if the government allows it to be.
So essentially you want "control of the borders" to let everyone and everything in? If you're going to have a non enforced border in Ireland and no duties on anything, why control ports, airports, the chunnel!? Anybody and anything could already come through Ireland...
Sounds a lot like what Brexiteers campaigned for 2 years ago...
So let's be clear here. The British electorate were given a choice to leave the EU, are you suggesting that we should not have been offered a democratic vote on EU membership?
But you have to accept the consequences of that vote which no-one including JRM, May, Farage, Johnson want to do.
People can just fly into the country and stay beyond their visa time.
Maybe the problem is that reaching an agreement for you is kissing asses as you see the EU more like an enemy than like a partner.
EU does not threat at all. The only one coming threatening was the UK through Cameron when he tried to renegotiate the conditions signed. The UK threatened the EU through a referendum trying to negotiate a deal after the referendum but before trigger article 50.
UK chose to leave and that means No Deal. If the UK wants a deal is the one that needs to propose, not the way around. And if the UK proposes ABSURD deals, the EU will never accept. You can't pretend to cherry pick and want some things and in return you don't give another besides that " I am the fecking entitled failed British empire (goes for the politicians and some old timers) and I demand it"
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