Yup. Politics has always been a bit of a mad house but this overt lunacy is very unsettling.
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Yup. Politics has always been a bit of a mad house but this overt lunacy is very unsettling.
Do we really need a new world order?
I mean, every agreed measure of human well-being has improved decade on decade.
I mean, every agreed measure of human well-being has improved decade on decade.
It takes a hardcore tory to ignore wages and the environment.
Yeah the fringes are now in charge - one thing that has been interesting about it is that it does answer very clearly the question I used to have about Hitler and how could people have possibly followed this man to the point they put on a uniform and murdered people. Now I can see how it happened.
Relatively speaking we all have more money than we have ever done.
By all means battle out individual policies in a democratic manner. Nothing wrong with that.
Whoever makes the best case wins.
But human welfare has improved many-fold over time and it has never been better than it is now.
It isn't perfect, but the direction of travel is positive.
We do not need a new world order.
Yeah, we know you do, that's the problem, John.
Don't dig at me for getting on Silva. I was a million miles from being born with a silver spoon in my mouth.
What I am saying is not about socialist v capitalist it is about not turning things upside down just because we are mid-table in certain areas compared to other countries.
whatever snowflake
The air is quickly becoming unbreathable because of your generation. The very fact that you addressed wages instead of the environment shows your horrid colours, you and your peers are more interested in protecting your assets than leaving behind a liveable world.
Real wages have been stagnant or declining (depending on sector) for a decade, only now starting to pick up. Cuts in public services and welfare all over the place from education, to benefits, to healthcare. Property prices on the highest ever ratio of average price over average income, with property ownership dipping to its lowest levels in the post-war era and millennials largely locked out of it.
But yeah, we all have more money than ever says Honest John so we're all good. Honest.
This is a real worry for me. I can see the connections here and they do not bode well.
With all this protectionism there is a real possibility of a 30's style depression.
Back then there were individuals who made colossal amounts of money off the backs of poor and desperate people.
Trump looks like one of those to me.
Depressions cause people to look for scapegoats. Back then it was the Jews.
It would not be any different now.
The Jews are getting it in the neck again? Oy vey!
What's the consensus on Trump's comments about this Brexit plan killing a UK trade deal?
Well I reckon they should concrete over the New Forest to make more parking spaces. What's wrong with that?
He's a moron that's what.
He won't be in the White House to make that call by the time the Brexit fog clears in 2020.
I hope
Mix the rich into the concrete and we've got a deal.
Is even one person happy with Brexit in its current form? It seems to me that our own government wishes they didn't have to do it the brexiteers hate it, remainers don't want it and foreign leaders don't either.
When May claims this meets the countries needs i really can't fathom who or what she's referring to?
When May claims this meets the countries needs i really can't fathom who or what she's referring to?
As long as they put you entitled lot to work on the cement mixers..
But who would you hate then?
It'll be a fecking joy.
We either crash out on WTO or we don't do it at all.
That's it.
Either way there's going to be a lot of angry people
He won't be in the White House to make that call by the time the Brexit fog clears in 2020.
I hope
Oh he will be. Trump will negotiate a trade deal with the UK it just will be on his terms. He holds all the cards - as does the EU. The UK really has made a total mess of this and generations are going to suffer as a result.
Good so we won't have to pay you much
He'll have to win the next Presidential election. I'm not so sure that's a given.
There is no obvious challenger out there - the Democrats are in utter turmoil and Trump is delivering on much of what he said he would which will only strengthen his support within the (massive) group of people who supported him the first time. Not only that the economy is doing well. He will not only win a second term it will be an absolute landslide.
Trump will be a one term president .If he get's that far.
Wishful thinking I'm afraid.
I think him winning by a landslide is wishful thinking .
I have a feeling the Democrats will still feck it up.
Believe me I couldn't think of anything wose - certainly not wishful thinking from me as I think he is an absolute cretin. I can't ignore what I'm seeing though.
Yeah that's definitely not going to happen unless people have different definitions of "landslide". But he could easily win because the Dems are pretty uninspiring and disunited.
What I mean by landslide is that he will the next term comfortably with little or no effort.
To be fair that doesn't really matter at this stage. The key things for the Democrats is to get united behind the person who does end up being their nominee
Nah that's not going to happen, he'll have to put a shift in. He has 40% of votes guaranteed, he'll have to work for that additional 5%+
There's an interesting article on Politico regarding Trump, the "Special Relationship", Brexit and FTAs.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/s...ked-brexit-then-he-used-it-as-leverage-219001
So that is what taking back control is going to look like. It'll be glorious...
https://www.politico.com/magazine/s...ked-brexit-then-he-used-it-as-leverage-219001
So that is what taking back control is going to look like. It'll be glorious...
I'm afraid of this as well, mainly because the democrats can't really seem to produce an interesting candidate that will not put off the people Bernie rallied behind his cause in 2016. If they can't mobilize this demographic part of their voters they will lose again.
The only hope I actually have is that enough democratic voters will say no matter who we vote into office it will all be better than Trump.
Isnt there a Trump thread for all this trump bollox?
US officials have themselves admitted it. One said the US was salivating at the thought of taking us to the cleaners.
Wish he would just feck off, his appearance annoys me, looks like the caricature of an evil headmaster.
Who believes this then?