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Labour would back May in a confidence vote under those terms.

Holy shit, a post that doesn't contain the word "Corbyn". I know it's implied but well done all the same mate. Baby steps and all that.
 
Holy shit, a post that doesn't contain the word "Corbyn". I know it's implied but well done all the same mate. Baby steps and all that.

I don't need that much convincing that he is irrelevant to the debate. In fact that's my default position.
 
Lol, the Tories are now lying to their own. Is anyone surprised when the EU ironclads everything when negotiating with these liars?

If the EU had any doubt over how duplicitous this government is, it has been very much removed over the last few months. Trully shambolic.
 
Electoral Commission has found out that Vote Leave most likely broke the law, which could pave way for a criminal investigation.
 
Will result in a few fines and nothing more

The electoral laws on this sort of thing are appalling. Mild fines that parties/campaign can easily afford, meaning it's generally more beneficial for them to break the rules and pay the fine afterwards. Can pretty much use it as a tactical method without having to worry to the extreme about the consequences.
 
The idea that Corbyn can avoid the poiltical fallout from hard brexit is fanciful.
 
Hopes and dreams.

I've never understood why Brexiteers thought the EU had any obligation whatsoever to make things even remotely easier for us by doing any sort of deal.

We're leaving them, they don't have to do anything at all.

I want to leave my Gym, however they gave me a blank look when I said that I still wanted full access to their facility and extra perks that existing members don’t have.

Very unreasonable of them I thought...
 
Isn’t this the Cnut that moved a load of money abroad so he wouldn’t take a hit during brexit?
He runs an emerging markets investment firm, so it won't invest in the UK or eurozone.

He's the cnut with odious views on abortion among other things. A relic of the 1800s.
 
Looking forward to Oscie appearing to explain that the turn out is pitiful and proof Corbyn is running out of steam, but the dozen or so people holding up a banner prove Corbyn needs to come out against Brexit.
 
Looking forward to Oscie appearing to explain that the turn out is pitiful and proof Corbyn is running out of steam, but the dozen or so people holding up a banner prove Corbyn needs to come out against Brexit.

Not at all I think it's wonderful use of the opposition leader's time to attend political rallies held in his own honour.
 
Looking forward to Oscie appearing to explain that the turn out is pitiful and proof Corbyn is running out of steam, but the dozen or so people holding up a banner prove Corbyn needs to come out against Brexit.

Are you completely ignoring what the tweet is saying?

EDIT: Have to say I've done a bit of research into this event and fcuk me, talk about being out of touch with the average man in the street. It's like a bizarre cult.
 
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Are you completely ignoring what the tweet is saying?

EDIT: Have to say I've done a bit of research into this event and fcuk me, talk about being out of touch with the average man in the street. It's like a bizarre cult.

My favourite bit is where Pat Sharp came on and awarded John McDonnell with the Smash Hits Poll Winners Party 2018 award for dishiest male.

Politics, eh? Just think, we'd have an entirely different phrase to use if Nero knew Stormzy and Owen Jones.
 
Of course we're in the minority, proven by the party's massive win at the last general election, followed up by the best local election results in a generation. Two victories really hammered home by inflicting a series of defeats against the govt on Brexit. Had none of those things happened then a back-slapping gathering in a field might have come across as a bit self-indulgent and out of touch.
 
Pfft. Do children gather in a field for a play date to sing songs and eat ice cream? I don't think so! You're way out of line



So your criticism of this event was that ice cream was eaten?

That's a bit weird even by your overly critical standards...
 
Actually my main criticism of the event is that the party seems to have channeled more energy and resources into an event where Corbyn can come out and wave than it has opposing hard Tory Brexit.
 
Actually my main criticism of the event is that the party seems to have channeled more energy and resources into an event where Corbyn can come out and wave than it has opposing hard Tory Brexit.

I really don't get that. You are criticising the events because they didn't do something that they don't want to do?
 
Tory MPs who recognise what a disaster Brexit is, try to pass amendments to defeat the government of which they're members.

Jeremy Corbyn comes on stage and waves.

Thank God we've finally got a real opposition, eh?
 
Tory MPs who recognise what a disaster Brexit is, try to pass amendments to defeat the government of which they're members.

Jeremy Corbyn comes on stage and waves.

Thank God we've finally got a real opposition, eh?

You seem to not understand that the opposition won't always have a different opinion, they don't have the obligation to disagree with everything. Conversely, being members of a party doesn't mean that you have to agree with everything.
 
Labour are in a worse position politically with the voters than the Tories about Brexit. A large proportion of their traditional voters are Leave voters and the press will likely cause a scandal if Labour resist, then the Tories and the press will shift the blame to them as 'saboteurs'.
I'd say that they appear to be accepting that we are leaving the EU, and just want to get out of the way for the above reasons.

If Labour ever want those working class white votes back killing Brexit will be terminal- though I suspect that they are gone forever now anyway.

I say that as someone who wishes the result was different as it is folly- it is likely going to be a self inflicted economic disaster, a self-immolation in terms of political influence or both.
 
Labour are in a worse position politically with the voters than the Tories about Brexit. A large proportion of their traditional voters are Leave voters and the press will likely cause a scandal if Labour resist, then the Tories and the press will shift the blame to them as 'saboteurs'.
I'd say that they appear to be accepting that we are leaving the EU, and just want to get out of the way for the above reasons.

If Labour ever want those working class white votes back killing Brexit will be terminal- though I suspect that they are gone forever now anyway.

I say that as someone who wishes the result was different as it is folly- it is likely going to be a self inflicted economic disaster, a self-immolation in terms of political influence or both.



The majority of Labour supporters who are hard Brexiters are in safe seats. The political calculation that they must appease a minority of their support in seats where they'd win even if they put a packet of smokey bacon crisps up for election but isolate large sections of their recently lost support to the SNP who are overwhelmingly pro-European and who they must win else they stand no chance of winning an election again regardless of what happens in England - seems a flawed political calculation to me.