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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?

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JPRouve said:
And he admitted that he didn't knew, that's the sign of an intelligent man.
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For me. The company I work for sells 90% of it's products to the EU. I want that to be as effortless and free from tariffs as it is now.

As I said above I went to Barca last week it was a spur of the minute thing would I be able to do that if I needed a visa. I used my phone with both calls and data coming from my normal package once we leave I will have to pay extra.

There are a ton of other things that I personally benefit when I want to travel to the continent the EU medical card that allows me to get treatment at the same cost as locals being another perk.
 
Mozza said:
Blue passports, fish
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Do you hate people that have an opinion on this, do you think it doesn't matter. Do you care that if fishing waters are reviewed that loads of dutch fisheries will collapse. It's so easy to be flippant about things but I'm glad you can just shrug it off as a non issue.
 
Stanley Road said:
Ok, re-read your long winded post and think who gave you the in or out choice, not difficult.
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The government did. I'm saying the referendum was fundamentally flawed and a specific Brexit should've been voted on. But that wasn't happening because then defeat would have been guaranteed.
 
Stanley Road said:
Do you hate people that have an opinion on this, do you think it doesn't matter. Do you care that if fishing waters are reviewed that loads of dutch fisheries will collapse. It's so easy to be flippant about things but I'm glad you can just shrug it off as a non issue.
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You do realise that most of the fish caught in British waters is sold in France Spain and Italy don't you?
 
Cheesy said:
The government did. I'm saying the referendum was fundamentally flawed and a specific Brexit should've been voted on. But that wasn't happening because then defeat would have been guaranteed.
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Mr Cameron gave you in /out choice, you voted out. What sort of brexit the uk gets is irrelevant, you voted out of the eu.
 
Fully Fledged said:
You do realise that most of the fish caught in British waters is sold in France Spain and Italy don't you?
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Fully fully aware, since the 80's / 90's. theres an old thread in the general where I mentioned this. That lovely fish you eat in spain, Irish sea. it's called supply and demand. Let the demand and quotas dwindle and let the stocks grow.
 
Stanley Road said:
Mr Cameron gave you in /out choice, you voted out. What sort of brexit the uk gets is irrelevant, you voted out of the eu.
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So you would be fine with a Brexit where UK left the EU but kept as close an alignment with them as they possibly could, keeping their regulations, keeping FOM, etc.? After all, if the sort of Brexit the UK gets is irrelevant....
 
Stanley Road said:
Ok but My team lead was not an idiot despite our difference of opinion. he's an intelligent top bloke, I wont judge him on his voting preference, people should try it.
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Having a different opinion or voting differently is not a problem , it's when that opinion is based purely on lies, not little fibs but obvious and clear lies.

Cheesy said:
If there was going to be a referendum, then there should've been one on a clear, direct method of leaving the EU, i.e. either a referendum where Leavers argued for leaving the single market and implementing a hard border in Ireland, or one where they advocated retaining freedom of movement and simply leaving the EU in name only. The problem is, of course, that neither option would've won; the former would've been too extreme while the latter wouldn't have inspired anti-EU voters at all. The problem with what we got, though, was that it became a vote in which Leavers could project whatever meaning they desired onto the vote instead of something more definitive and concrete.
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Totally agree but now the government has interpreted that as completely leaving everything, the EU the CU and the SM.
Which means there is a hard border in Ireland, which means they are out of all the EU agencies, which means the City can no longer operate as it does, which means there will be tariffs , enormous delays at ports etc - oddly enough the government don't want this so their interpretation is yet another invention

Stanley Road said:
Mr Cameron gave you in /out choice, you voted out. What sort of brexit the uk gets is irrelevant, you voted out of the eu.
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What is your vision of the Brexit after all the dust settles then.
 
Stanley Road said:
Fully fully aware, since the 80's / 90's. theres an old thread in the general where I mentioned this. That lovely fish you eat in spain, Irish sea. it's called supply and demand. Let the demand and quotas dwindle and let the stocks grow.
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Sticks have grown because of the quota system
 
Stanley Road said:
When I asked my team lead how he was going to vote he said 'Remain', I said 'Really, why?', he said 'I dunno, what do I know about these things?'

I wonder how many remainers knew what they were voting for?
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I think voting for the status quo because you don’t know or can’t project what might happen otherwise, is a perfectly respectable, dare I say prudent approach. It’s practically the sort of position people used to call conservative.
 
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In 10 years there will be Iraq war type inquiries into how this clusterfeck happened. On the plus side, it will,hopefully destroy Boris Johnson,
 
The government's plan has been to try and put things off as long as possible and hope that something happens that either means they can avoid the decision or that will somehow make the decision easier. Even at this late stage I still don't believe even the cabinet are united behind a single position. Right now the plan is to hold out on trying to pretend we can cherry pick the best bits of EU membership and that'll be the position until it becomes even more obvious we can't or until there isn't enough time yet to negotiate anything.
 
sullydnl said:
So you would be fine with a Brexit where UK left the EU but kept as close an alignment with them as they possibly could, keeping their regulations, keeping FOM, etc.? After all, if the sort of Brexit the UK gets is irrelevant....
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Cameron offered in or out, no specifics, if you don't like it you know who your idiots are
 
This referendum is a case study in why you should require a super majority to make major constitutional changes.
 
Stanley Road said:
No one wants a hard border, so dont have one.
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Stanley Road said:
Someone wants a hard border rhen, who is it paul?
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Stanley Road said:
Well you'd need a vivid imagination to think about bold part but if you have, you can see muslim extremists moving through Europe with ease as fom allows. I personally don't ever see anything like that of course but I think fom is bad.
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:lol: :rolleyes: Typical Brexiter logic. You're contradicting yourself at every turn. If you don't know what you want, what did you vote for? Open border with the EU or not? Leaving the EU means being outside the EU's external border. Which means violating the GFA. You can have one or the other.
 
Watching this clown on Spotlight hurts my head.
The US / Canada border is a great example due to how they scan lorries.
I don't know his name but talk about missing the point.

Edit Ian Duncan Smith
 
Stanley Road said:
Cameron offered in or out, no specifics, if you don't like it you know who your idiots are
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Right. So those who voted out can't complain if the UK remains as close as possible to the EU. As long as the UK techically leaves the EU then they got what they voted for, even if underlying things like FOM don't change at all. If Leavers don't like that then tough because, as you say, the vote was "in" or "out". "Out" could mean a brexit in name only that involves little actual change.

I doubt you actually think that would be okay though?
 
Stanley Road said:
How do you vote for something you don't like?

Its madness
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What are you on about? Who told you to vote for something you don't like?

The situation is simple, if you don't like something it means that you know that thing therefore your opinion is educated and you can justifiably vote against it. Now if you don't know something, you have zero reason to not like it, you have zero reason to vote against it, you have zero reason to alter the current situation.
 
Stanley Road said:
Do you hate people that have an opinion on this, do you think it doesn't matter. Do you care that if fishing waters are reviewed that loads of dutch fisheries will collapse. It's so easy to be flippant about things but I'm glad you can just shrug it off as a non issue.
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Im glad you brits can be so flippant about possibly starting up another conflict in NI just because you want to leave the fecking EU when ALL the signs are telling you its a bad idea.
 
JPRouve said:
What are you on about? Who told you to vote for something you don't like?

The situation is simple, if you don't like something it means that you know that thing therefore your opinion is educated and you can justifiably vote against it. Now if you don't know something, you have zero reason to not like it, you have zero reason to vote against it, you have zero reason to alter the current situation.
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The people voted for a pm that offered a yes no choice. They need to live with that.

Thay seem unhappy that the 48 pc dont get a listen but voters of the 2nd largest party in NL also dont. Its hypocracy at its worst.
 
Stanley Road said:
The people voted for a pm that offered a yes no choice. They need to live with that.

Thay seem unhappy that the 48 pc dont get a listen but voters of the 2nd largest party in NL also dont. Its hypocracy at its worst.
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So the second largest party in NL doesn't get seats in parliament?

The ignorance your posts display is astounding. Even after 33 thousand.
 
Stanley Road said:
More charm from the remainers
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I don't respect posts that are blatantly wrong and I feel absolutely no need to show any respect to the posters responsible for them. False respect in the name of manners/charm is part of what brought us here. I wish more remainers had the guts to confront brexiteers with their BS, their lies and falsehoods should never remain unanswered.

And obviously you don't answer the question... does the 2nd largest party in the Netherlands get seats in the Gerneralstaaten?
 
Abizzz said:
I don't respect posts that are blatantly wrong and I feel absolutely no need to show any respect to the posters responsible for them. False respect in the name of manners/charm is part of what brought us here. I wish more remainers had the guts to confront brexiteers with their BS, their lies and falsehoods should never remain unanswered.

And obviously you don't answer the question... does the 2nd largest party in the Netherlands get seats in the Gerneralstaaten?
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The charm offensive continues. You sound bitter about something.
 
Stanley Road said:
The charm offensive continues. You sound bitter about something.
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Yeah brexiteers ruining one of the countries I love makes me a little bitter... Boris/Davis/Mogg/Farage etc. repeatedly lying about the country that I live in makes me angry. Mrs.May doing her best to mess up a horrible situation even more makes me hopeless.

Your posts would just make me laugh if I hadn't realised that illinformed people are actually listening to the likes of you, which made this whole thing possible.
 
Abizzz said:
Yeah brexiteers ruining one of the countries I love makes me a little bitter... Boris/Davis/Mogg/Farage etc. repeatedly lying about the country that I live in makes me angry. Mrs.May doing her best to mess up a horrible situation even more makes me hopeless.

Your posts would just make me laugh if I hadn't realised that illinformed people are actually listening to the likes of you, which made this whole thing possible.
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You're slowly winning me over
 
Ramshock said:
Im glad you brits can be so flippant about possibly starting up another conflict in NI just because you want to leave the fecking EU when ALL the signs are telling you its a bad idea.
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If you had listened to Davis in front of the European Scrutiny Committee you would have blown your top, can't remember the exact words but along the lines of "the men of violence using the border issue as an excuse".
 
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