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Very good thread. Once again highlights the fundamental misunderstanding's that get perpetuated concerning Northern Ireland.

 
Sweet Square said:
Yeah it seem he still doesn't understand.
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I think he does make some fair points in regards to how often you'll complaints of "Just get on with it!" on Question Time etc. There's definitely an obsession with simplifying the whole process, and trying to strip it of all complexity when doing so isn't really possible.
 
As the finance ministry calculates it takes between nine and 22 months to train a customs officer, the Dutch government has green-lighted immediate recruiting, training, tendering of contracts and organising of housing.

Mr Snel wrote to Dutch MPs: "The divisions within the British Conservative Party and the remaining lack of clarity about the British input continue to impede the smooth running of the negotiations.

"It is therefore clear that the scenario that the UK leaves the EU on 29 March 2019 without a withdrawal agreement and without a transitional period is still conceivable.

"The red lines of the UK for the future relationship with the EU (leaving the internal market and customs union) mean that the trade relationship can not go much further than a trade agreement like the one the EU has concluded with Canada."
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https://news.sky.com/story/dutch-ac...-blame-a-lack-of-clarity-from-the-uk-11258568

The Netherlands prepping for a hard Brexit.
 
I find it hilarious how Davies expect an entire continent to negotiate with 1 small country regarding regulations. It gets even more ridiculous that a Brexiter hopes that the EU will trust the UK, considering that

a- it refuse to commit in writing that it will be pay what it owes
b- most Brexiteers had made it quite obvious that they want the EU to fail

I wonder what the reaction would be if the EU does a Brexit UK by giving the UK false hopes on a deal only to pull out (no transition deal, nothing) at the last moment.
 
With these accusations of Corbyn spying maybe we are in for a re-run of the Zinoviev letter. This time the Sun instead of the Mail.
 
I can see the similarities between Ronaldo/Messi and Johnson/Davis.
Difference is Ronaldo and Messi score lots of goals in the opposition's net but Johnson and Davis score lots of own goals.

Is it Liam Fox up next in the Road to Nowhere series? Should be some pearls of wisdom to have a good chuckle at.
 
Theresa May wants Brexit when the UK is ready - an open-ended transition deal. To be more exact, from now till then.
 
Remember the Big Red Bus that Leavers claimed afterwards didn't exist

Here's another one:
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712 said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics

It could be the BBC don't know the purpose of this Chequers meeting, but if it really is 'to try and reach a deal on the government's Brexit strategy' at this late stage then it can only mean a monumental lack of leadership and competence from May.
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No, they're right. The Cabinet is more like a collection of feuding warlords trying to get to the top of the table than a coherent group of people with a unified policy positions.
 
cyberman said:
Well there's a bit more to it than simply saying historic responsibility but a lot of Irish people would agree with you.
There's a certain percentage in Northern Ireland that don't and it's not hard to work out who they are.
The funny thing is that they don't see themselves as British but as wannabe English. That's the problem, they never see Scotland / Wales as an example and it stunts progress.
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Don’t want to derail this thread but as a northern proddy, I want to point out the rubbish above. No one sees themselves as wanabee English. It’s as lazy as those twats I’ve worked with over the years who say ‘my lot’ when referring to English. Being British isn’t the same as being English.
 
Encouraging Labour might be "evolving" into actually opposing a hardline Brexit.

From 'out of the customs union', to 'a customs union' is progress. Still not 'why the feck don't we just stay in THE customs union?', but it's step in the right direction.
 
Oscie said:
Encouraging Labour might be "evolving" into actually opposing a hardline Brexit.

From 'out of the customs union', to 'a customs union' is progress. Still not 'why the feck don't we just stay in THE customs union?', but it's step in the right direction.
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Difficult one for them. Corbyn undermines his "honest politics" mantra by not taking a stance, but at the same time taking a firmly pro-customs union stance will alienate a considerable portion of the party's voters who want an end to freedom of movement.
 
Oscie said:
Encouraging Labour might be "evolving" into actually opposing a hardline Brexit.

From 'out of the customs union', to 'a customs union' is progress. Still not 'why the feck don't we just stay in THE customs union?', but it's step in the right direction.
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They have to keep a broad church together from their traditional base in old industrial areas to the younger members. Still though, it is frustrating how reluctant they are to make a positive case for some form of EU association (a better way to improve living standards, increase social justice etc) while they instead leave the Tories to implode.
 
MoskvaRed said:
They have to keep a broad church together from their traditional base in old industrial areas to the younger members. Still though, it is frustrating how reluctant they are to make a positive case for some form of EU association (a better way to improve living standards, increase social justice etc) while they instead leave the Tories to implode.
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I don't think it's that difficult, quite honestly. Labour voters overwhelmingly are anti-hardline Brexit, Labour's youth are positively Europhillic and under any other leader of the last 30 years they would have had this stance from the outset and not let May et al off the hook for so long as they have. It's because Corbyn and McDonnell are still pretending not to be against something they've been against their entire political lives save for a few weeks of unconvincing campaigning in the summer of 2016. Still, better late than never so can't grumble.
 
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