Classy response, when you can't be bothered to actually reply to my points then simply say 'it's all been said before' and patronisingly list some random points. I'd reply to them, but you're not replying to my previous post, so what's the point?
And fyi, I'm not a brexiter. I was for remaining with reforms (which weren't offered), so I abstained. It annoys me that so many fail to see the very valid reasons people had for wanting to leave and instead get fixiated on this 'little englander' stereotype mentality. I've thrice now pointed out some of the issues the political structure of the EU creates, and you've ignored it again. I'm still pro-reconciliation and close ties with the EU and I don't think Brexit is a sham. If anything it's a chance to create a better relationship that retains the good things of the EU (trading, the joint bodies on things like research) and do away with the bad (most of the political bodies).
Apologies for being a bit short but was just going go bed and rushed my response.
However, having explained the who needs who the most scenario at least a dozen times and the last time only a couple of pages back it does get frustrating.
So for the benefit of other people who may still think the same way I will explain it in the simplest possible way and hopefully will not have to repeat it again:
Yes the UK imports more from the EU more than the EU imports from the UK - there is no disagreement here.
Firstly the UK is one country the EU is 27 countries so that statistic is hardly surprising.
To the nitty gritty - the Brexiteers obsession with German car manufacturers.
Approximately 50% of British sales goes to the EU. 1.8% of German sales are cars to the UK. Even if you want to talk about all of German exports to the UK it's 7.6% of their exports. Please also keep in mind that Germany is the biggest supplier of goods to the UK from the EU countries by far so this is the worst scenario for the EU.
Now imagine the scenario where the EU and the UK have this mighty argument and they both say that all trade will stop between them.
Germany says - oh no, we've lost 7.6% of our customers - the UK say, oh no, we've lost 50% of our customers - do I still need to elaborate?
The reforms will happen, but it will take time. Nobody is saying the EU is perfect but to think that life will suddenly become so much better after leaving is fanciful to say the least. The Uk are putting their trust in the goons who have lied to them continuously and still continue to believe them. problem is even if you got rid of them , you'd get Corbyn, his performance before the referendum alone tells one a lot. I do not see where the UK is remotely more democratic than the EU if that's what you're hoping for.
As for the Hungarian issue, I had answered you , the EU court will not impose something illegal on them that they hadn't agreed to, if they did then yes there is a problem.
I can talk to you all day about trade, finance, etc because it's my field, there are people on here who are more knowledgable about immigration etc who have explained.
Brexit is a sham because Leave won but had no idea what to do after they won, if I was a Brexiter I would be thinking, we're not really going to leave are we?
For the first time ever I agreed with something Farage said yesterday," the Uk are leaving the EU but in name only" - this is worse than anything.
The pathetic speech by May yesterday which is basically saying we've still not idea how to proceed but could you give us some more time to delay the cliff edge and think of something but we will pay our dues and we will pay to belong to the single market - what's the betting in a couple of years time they'll be asking for another couple of years.
One issue that does not affect me in the slightest but interests me is the Irish border issue. I have absolutely no idea what the solution is, does anyone and if they don't , didn't someone think about this before the farce began.
as I said above, all depends on perspective
