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[Nogbadthebad]

The UK is involved with 759 different cross-border treaties as a member of the EU.

Anyone who thinks we should be out by now is clearly someone who has no fecking clue just how difficult it is, and likely no real idea of how much a hard brexit will affect them personally.

And by anyone, I obviously mean you.

 

[Paul the Wolf]

Not sure its as planned, for most Brexiteers we should be out now, but Theresa has to put on a show to demonstrate how those nasty EU people are wanting to throw us out without a penny to our name, so in that sense it probably is going to plan.

Don't forget the British love an 'underdog' and where it started with us being portrayed as being unfriendly to the European's for wanting to leave our 'bosom buddies', now its becoming those nasty unelected EU Commissioners, wanting to 'tie us to the stake and give us a good lashing', what's the betting there will be a call here for a boycott of EU goods long before we leave, also just heard the White Cliffs of Dover have been saved for the Nation.

It has always been the nasty people from the EU, that's what the government have used for years to conceal their own incompetence and the public lap it up because of their dislike of foreigners - yet another fly in the ointment is that when the Uk is finally out they are running out of people to blame.

 

[devilish]

Not sure its as planned, for most Brexiteers we should be out now, but Theresa has to put on a show to demonstrate how those nasty EU people are wanting to throw us out without a penny to our name, so in that sense it probably is going to plan.

Don't forget the British love an 'underdog' and where it started with us being portrayed as being unfriendly to the European's for wanting to leave our 'bosom buddies', now its becoming those nasty unelected EU Commissioners, wanting to 'tie us to the stake and give us a good lashing', what's the betting there will be a call here for a boycott of EU goods long before we leave, also just heard the White Cliffs of Dover have been saved for the Nation.

"Tieing us to the stake and give us a good lashing" - Seriously?

The UK can leave the negotiation table whenever they wanted. No one is forcing it to stay. Its not the EU's fault that Brexit is such a bad idea that needs to be postponed through a transitional period.

 

[I Believe]

that when the Uk is finally out they are running out of people to blame.

Exactly Paul, you've hit the nail on the head, got it at last, well done. Successive British Governments over the last forty years have said, "its not us that's doing this its the EU" relatively recently of course "Its not us giving unrestricted access to anybody in the EU who fancies coming here.. its the EU", "its not us... its... not us.... oh shit, yes it is us now!

 

[Bury Red]

when the Uk is finally out they are running out of people to blame.

Don't be ridiculous Paul, there's single mums, benefit scroungers, the old, the fat, smokers, drinkers, drivers and the politically correct liberal left who can take the blame for anything we can no longer chuck at Europe.

 

[Paul the Wolf]

Exactly Paul, you've hit the nail on the head, got it at last, well done. Successive British Governments over the last forty years have said, "its not us that's doing this its the EU" relatively recently of course "Its not us giving unrestricted access to anybody in the EU who fancies coming here.. its the EU", "its not us... its... not us.... oh shit, yes it is us now!

Exactly, no-one has unrestricted access to the UK, glad you finally admit it is all a lie and the biggest liar of all is May , the Home Secretary who wouldn't enforce the rules. Better tell the Brexiteers that they were lied to, they won't believe you though.

 

[I Believe]

The UK can leave the negotiation table whenever they wanted. No one is forcing it to stay

Oh yes they are, all the remoaners are desperate for Davis and co. to hang on in there, remember Theresa herself voted to stay, so did Philip Hammond, they are caught between the devil and the deep blue sea (well the Channel anyway). This is what's giving Barnier the edge, Theresa talks a good 'no deal better than a bad deal', but she doesn't believe it. She will cave in at some point and then come back home and fall on her sword, if that is done quickly say within twelve months) Jeremy Corbin will become British PM and Angela Merkel and Mr Macron will be pulling their hair out, not over trade, but defence! Out of the frying pan into the fire! If only a deal had been done with Cameron!

 

[sun_tzu]

Exactly Paul, you've hit the nail on the head, got it at last, well done. Successive British Governments over the last forty years have said, "its not us that's doing this its the EU" relatively recently of course "Its not us giving unrestricted access to anybody in the EU who fancies coming here.. its the EU", "its not us... its... not us.... oh shit, yes it is us now!

Nah... the eu will have crippled us with a bad deal... it will still be their fault somehow

 

[Paul the Wolf]

Don't be ridiculous Paul, there's single mums, benefit scroungers, the old, the fat, smokers, drinkers, drivers and the politically correct liberal left who can take the blame for anything we can no longer chuck at Europe.

I would like to see the benefit scroungers forced to go to work to fill the gaps left by the EU citizens that will leave, poetic justice

 

[devilish]

Oh yes they are, all the remoaners are desperate for Davis and co. to hang on in there, remember Theresa herself voted to stay, so did Philip Hammond, they are caught between the devil and the deep blue sea (well the Channel anyway). This is what's giving Barnier the edge, Theresa talks a good 'no deal better than a bad deal', but she doesn't believe it. She will cave in at some point and then come back home and fall on her sword, if that is done quickly say within twelve months) Jeremy Corbin will become British PM and Angela Merkel and Mr Macron will be pulling their hair out, not over trade, but defence! Out of the frying pan into the fire! If only a deal had been done with Cameron!

That's the UK prorogative though. The EU has nothing to do with it.

 

[I Believe]

Better tell the Brexiteers that they were lied to, they won't believe you though.

No Paul, for one moment there I honestly thought you had got it!.. The Brexiteers know they have been lied to, for years that's why 90% of them they voted for out! Its not rocket science, really its not!

 

[I Believe]

The EU has nothing to do with it.

Fantastic... its sinking in at last! wowee!!

 

[sun_tzu]

Oh yes they are, all the remoaners are desperate for Davis and co. to hang on in there, remember Theresa herself voted to stay, so did Philip Hammond, they are caught between the devil and the deep blue sea (well the Channel anyway). This is what's giving Barnier the edge, Theresa talks a good 'no deal better than a bad deal', but she doesn't believe it. She will cave in at some point and then come back home and fall on her sword, if that is done quickly say within twelve months) Jeremy Corbin will become British PM and Angela Merkel and Mr Macron will be pulling their hair out, not over trade, but defence! Out of the frying pan into the fire! If only a deal had been done with Cameron!

Nah... Corbyn will just hand over the armed forces and trident to the eu army as he will never use them anyway.... Merkel and macron will be over the moon

 

[Paul the Wolf]

No Paul, for one moment there I honestly thought you had got it!.. The Brexiteers know they have been lied to, for years that's why 90% of them they voted for out! Its not rocket science, really its not!

There's no hope for you, is there.

 

[The Outsider]

Its seems that the UK close relationship with the US has just been bombardiered. Is that the anomaly or is it an early sign of what's in store?

This is not so much about Brexit as about international corporate warfare when big corporates see their interests being threatened.

Our ministers got involved because of the jobs in N.I and reminded Boeing we had used them for our military defence contracts and that might have a future bearing. Boeing replied the UK might want to have pause and consider Boeing employs 16k workers in the UK for supply chain jobs. The jobs in N.I are 4k yet very important locally.

I am thinking the WTO might not be such a friendly place yet even without this there would have been an EU - US spat over Bombardier, a French aircraft concern. I think the EU is more relaxed as it is UK jobs at risk.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...bs-bombardier-hit-massive-us-tariffs-subsidy/

 

[devilish]

Fantastic... its sinking in at last! wowee!!

I've been saying that from day 1. The UK can leave the EU in a second. However the economy will be so devastated that no one apart from the hardest of Brexiteers would contemplate doing it. May I remind you that

a- unrestricted access to the single market was not a remainer's promise but a brexiter's promise. Boris said time and time again that the EU will be so desperate to sell prosecco and BMWs that the EU will be begging the UK to keep the status quo

b- TM ended up in power because the most prominent Brexiters in the tory party ended up backstabbing one another. Meanwhile the first thing Farage did was to resign from UKIP and go to Germany's embassy.

 

[devilish]

This is not so much about Brexit as about international corporate warfare when big corporates see their interests being threatened.

Our ministers got involved because of the jobs in N.I and reminded Boeing we had used them for our military defence contracts and that might have a future bearing. Boeing replied the UK might want to have pause and consider Boeing employs 16k workers in the UK for supply chain jobs. The jobs in N.I are 4k yet very important locally.

I am thinking the WTO might not be such a friendly place yet even without this there would have been an EU - US spat over Bombardier, a French aircraft concern. I think the EU is more relaxed as it is UK jobs at risk.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...bs-bombardier-hit-massive-us-tariffs-subsidy/

It has everything to do with business. That's something Brexiters can't comprehend. The US means business and can't care less of 'alliances' and 'friendships'. Just ask the South Vietnamese, Saddam Hussein or the Kurds of what a great friend the US can be in times of need. Hell, you can even ask the British politicians involved in the Suez canal mess while at it too.

 

[I Believe]

There's no hope for you, is there.

Quite the contrary Paul 'We get our country back' (in more ways than one!).

Politicians in Britain for the first time since the second world war now after Brexit will have to act truthfully and on behalf of the people, not sticking it to the people because we/they are intelligent and the rest of you are just morons) and the first party or organisation that realises this will clean up. Jeremy Corbyn whilst I fundamentally disagree with his view of the world, at least when you vote for that guy (I wouldn't) you know what you are getting, that's what's making him appealing.
If anyone needs convincing look at 'project fear' that the Governor of the Bank of England and the Chancellor both colluded in, and still are in some quarters, although to be fair Mark Carny has admitted we can not only survive outside the EU, but heaven forbid, even prosper.

It's a 'watershed' that's been a long time coming, but it will change politics in the UK for a long, long, time. If the EU and I admit that with Theresa and Phillip Hammond in charge they are likely to get the upper hand, but if they do seek to punish Britain, they also will be sorry for many decades to come!

 

[MoskvaRed]

This is not so much about Brexit as about international corporate warfare when big corporates see their interests being threatened.

Our ministers got involved because of the jobs in N.I and reminded Boeing we had used them for our military defence contracts and that might have a future bearing. Boeing replied the UK might want to have pause and consider Boeing employs 16k workers in the UK for supply chain jobs. The jobs in N.I are 4k yet very important locally.

I am thinking the WTO might not be such a friendly place yet even without this there would have been an EU - US spat over Bombardier, a French aircraft concern. I think the EU is more relaxed as it is UK jobs at risk.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...bs-bombardier-hit-massive-us-tariffs-subsidy/

Bombardier is Canadian (Quebec), not French. Another example of how it is "America first" in these types of scenarios (even with its friendly neighbour) and how deluded the likes of Liam Fox are. And I doubt the Chinese or the Indians will be exactly cuddly when we try to do a deal with them.

 

[devilish]

Bombardier is Canadian (Quebec), not French. Another example of how it is "America first" in these types of scenarios (even with its friendly neighbour) and how deluded the likes of Liam Fox are. And I doubt the Chinese or the Indians will be exactly cuddly when we try to do a deal with them.

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[devilish]

Quite the contrary Paul 'We get our country back' (in more ways than one!).

Politicians in Britain for the first time since the second world war now after Brexit will have to act truthfully and on behalf of the people, not sticking it to the people because we/they are intelligent and the rest of you are just morons) and the first party or organisation that realises this will clean up. Jeremy Corbyn whilst I fundamentally disagree with his view of the world, at least when you vote for that guy (I wouldn't) you know what you are getting, that's what's making him appealing.
If anyone needs convincing look at 'project fear' that the Governor of the Bank of England and the Chancellor both colluded in, and still are in some quarters, although to be fair Mark Carny has admitted we can not only survive outside the EU, but heaven forbid, even prosper.

It's a 'watershed' that's been a long time coming, but it will change politics in the UK for a long, long, time. If the EU and I admit that with Theresa and Phillip Hammond in charge they are likely to get the upper hand, but if they do seek to punish Britain, they also will be sorry for many decades to come!

No one is punishing anybody. Its business. They are only flexing their muscles (ie a far bigger market) to get a better deal. Rest assured that the US, India and co will do the same or even worse.

The US has just slapped a huge tariff on bombardier planes despite Canada/UK are their 'historical allies' and 'friends'. That's how the world works buddy.

 

[MoskvaRed]

Quite the contrary Paul 'We get our country back' (in more ways than one!).

Politicians in Britain for the first time since the second world war now after Brexit will have to act truthfully and on behalf of the people, not sticking it to the people because we/they are intelligent and the rest of you are just morons) and the first party or organisation that realises this will clean up. Jeremy Corbyn whilst I fundamentally disagree with his view of the world, at least when you vote for that guy (I wouldn't) you know what you are getting, that's what's making him appealing.
If anyone needs convincing look at 'project fear' that the Governor of the Bank of England and the Chancellor both colluded in, and still are in some quarters, although to be fair Mark Carny has admitted we can not only survive outside the EU, but heaven forbid, even prosper.

It's a 'watershed' that's been a long time coming, but it will change politics in the UK for a long, long, time. If the EU and I admit that with Theresa and Phillip Hammond in charge they are likely to get the upper hand, but if they do seek to punish Britain, they also will be sorry for many decades to come!

Brexit really is a panacea, isn't it? Once again, I get the impression of zealots defending an article of faith. The shining city on the hill free of condescending elites. And Corbyn is as prone to obfuscate and make unrealistic promises as the rest, he just targets a different audience with his electoral bribes.

 

[Paul the Wolf]

Quite the contrary Paul 'We get our country back' (in more ways than one!).

Politicians in Britain for the first time since the second world war now after Brexit will have to act truthfully and on behalf of the people, not sticking it to the people because we/they are intelligent and the rest of you are just morons) and the first party or organisation that realises this will clean up. Jeremy Corbyn whilst I fundamentally disagree with his view of the world, at least when you vote for that guy (I wouldn't) you know what you are getting, that's what's making him appealing.
If anyone needs convincing look at 'project fear' that the Governor of the Bank of England and the Chancellor both colluded in, and still are in some quarters, although to be fair Mark Carny has admitted we can not only survive outside the EU, but heaven forbid, even prosper.

It's a 'watershed' that's been a long time coming, but it will change politics in the UK for a long, long, time. If the EU and I admit that with Theresa and Phillip Hammond in charge they are likely to get the upper hand, but if they do seek to punish Britain, they also will be sorry for many decades to come!

If the UK doesn't get a deal - they're on their own and if they think anyone outside the UK cares, they don't - if this happens all the doomsday scenarios and worse will happen. So to stop this happening they have to do a deal with the EU, so there goes "getting your country back" - as you said "devil and deep blue sea".
I have no more regard for Corbyn than I have for the Tory lot - I wouldn't trust him either.

The problem with Project Fear is that Brexiteers think any damage that could have happened because of the vote should have already happened by now and thus think they now are in the clear. Some of the bad things that have been forecast, like some devaluation, slowing down of growth ,inflation gathering pace etc have happened but this is only the tip of the iceberg if it is a hard Brexit. If the Uk get a deal you will see the economy improving, the pound regaining value - if on the other hand it is a cliff edge no deal , there can be no other outcome than "You ain't seen nothing yet".

 

[JPRouve]

This is not so much about Brexit as about international corporate warfare when big corporates see their interests being threatened.

Our ministers got involved because of the jobs in N.I and reminded Boeing we had used them for our military defence contracts and that might have a future bearing. Boeing replied the UK might want to have pause and consider Boeing employs 16k workers in the UK for supply chain jobs. The jobs in N.I are 4k yet very important locally.

I am thinking the WTO might not be such a friendly place yet even without this there would have been an EU - US spat over Bombardier, a French aircraft concern. I think the EU is more relaxed as it is UK jobs at risk.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...bs-bombardier-hit-massive-us-tariffs-subsidy/

If the US could extend that tarrif to all Bombardier's products, France would like it very much. They are the competition of Alstom and Dassault.

 

[The Outsider]

No one is punishing anybody. Its business. They are only flexing their muscles (ie a far bigger market) to get a better deal. Rest assured that the US, India and co will do the same or even worse.

The US has just slapped a huge tariff on bombardier planes despite Canada/UK are their 'historical allies' and 'friends'. That's how the world works buddy.

It has everything to do with business. That's something Brexiters can't comprehend. The US means business and can't care less of 'alliances' and 'friendships'. Just ask the South Vietnamese, Saddam Hussein or the Kurds of what a great friend the US can be in times of need. Hell, you can even ask the British politicians involved in the Suez canal mess while at it too.

I get the feeling we are going to have some fireworks with this Brexit business and it could become trade wars and protectionist because everyone is out for themselves.
So Jesus Corbyn comes in with his promises, the pound plummets, taxes up for the middle and to get his new tech industries off the ground we will need to stay out of the EU.
If they sincerely try our National Debt may well increase. It is not going to be pretty. Small manufacturers might fare ok yet watch those house prices!

@MoskvaRed - thks for putting me straight on Bombardier.
@JPRouve - good to know about Alstom and Dassualt, I think the latter makes Mirage Jets which are highly rated in military circles, at least when compared to the US F-35!

 

[The Outsider]

@Penna

I really enjoy this thread, we may all see things differently yet argue with logic and a minimum of baiting.
I expect that may be because of the 10 likes that are required to reach the main forum.

 

[devilish]

I get the feeling we are going to have some fireworks with this Brexit business and it could become trade wars and protectionist because everyone is out for themselves.
So Jesus Corbyn comes in with his promises, the pound plummets, taxes up for the middle and to get his new tech industries off the ground we will need to stay out of the EU.
If they sincerely try our National Debt may well increase. It is not going to be pretty. Small manufacturers might fare ok yet watch those house prices!

@MoskvaRed - thks for putting me straight on Bombardier.
@JPRouve - good to know about Alstom and Dassualt, I think the latter makes Mirage Jets which are highly rated in military circles, at least when compared to the US F-35!

Europe wont be on its own because we have each other. As a unified front we are in a better position to make trade deals from a position of strength.

 

[Kentonio]

If anyone needs convincing look at 'project fear' that the Governor of the Bank of England and the Chancellor both colluded in, and still are in some quarters, although to be fair Mark Carny has admitted we can not only survive outside the EU, but heaven forbid, even prosper.

Oh not this dumb shit again.. Mark Carney is responsible for the stability of the financial system. He told you very clearly before the vote that it would be hugely damaging and you didn't listen because of course you know better than all the people who actually do this stuff for a living. Then once the vote happened, guess what? Mark Carney was STILL responsible for keeping things as stable as possible, so no he couldn't come out and say 'oh you stupid cnuts, we're all very, very fecked now', instead he had to suddenly pivot and try and paint a positive picture of a situation he'd already publicly warned against. Because that's his damn job.

Then he also had to stomach people like you confidently declaring that he was a liar who had suddenly decided to embrace the truth just because it lined up with what you wanted to hear.

He should have resigned the moment the vote result came in and told you all to go feck yourselves.

 

[I Believe]

Oh not this dumb shit again..

Yes, I'm afraid you can moan and groan as much as you want but I suspect Mark Carney's time as Governor is now limited, he shouldn't be getting involved at all. Saying one thing before the event and another after it, yes that's cute. His 'Mea culpa' I suppose cuts him some slack, but not for too long, let himself be bullied, not good, 'steady Eddy' would not I suspect have succumbed.

 

[I Believe]

If the UK doesn't get a deal - they're on their own and if they think anyone outside the UK cares, they don't

Since when as it been any different Paul? Britain was always the awkward kid on the block, plenty of Allies but no friends, nothing changes in that respect, if we make the goods and provide the services that others want, at the right price, we will trade very well thank you, inside or outside the EU.
Yes some of us want a deal and I reluctantly have come to the conclusion with Theresa at the helm it will be the 'bad deal' she has previously warned against, but then if that's the price we have to pay for our freedom, so be it, we will be outside and can sort our own problems and like the aftermath of all battles there will be the usual 'blood-letting' in both political and economic terms, but it won't just be in Britain, don't kid yourself on that one!

 

[Kentonio]

Yes, I'm afraid you can moan and groan as much as you want but I suspect Mark Carney's time as Governor is now limited, he shouldn't be getting involved at all. Saying one thing before the event and another after it, yes that's cute. His 'Mea culpa' I suppose cuts him some slack, but not for too long, let himself be bullied, not good, 'steady Eddy' would not I suspect have succumbed.

Just listen to yourself for goodness sake. Carneys only interest is in the stability and ideally growth of the U.K. economy. For one thing he's bloody American, so it's not like he has some vested interest in the patriotism shite. Before the vote he gave the best advice he could, which is that leaving the EU would be financially disasterous. Then the vote came in and he was faced with a nightmare situation where the pound was about to plummet and the economy was in serious danger. He did what any decent governor would do and came out to say the necessary things to try and soothe people's fears and maintain a little stability at the point where the financial world was panicking. He did it despite knowing that he was making himself look a fool to a lot of people, because he takes his job actually seriously.

The really annoying thing about you Brexiteers (well one of many really, but I digress..) is that you'll take any situation, no matter how clear and obvious and twist it to fit your narrative. The Carney situation isn't complicated, a child could see what happened, but because you don't like that truth, you have to create a bizarre, nonsensical version where he supposedly lied before but randomly came out and decided to support Brexit just 24 hours later.

Seriously, grow the feck up and accept that not everything is what you wish it was. You still have a potential win scenario, Brexit could happen and economically be a big success and then you can rub it in our faces forever. Any revisionist bullshit about the experts not believing what they warned you about is just stupid though. They genuinely thought (and continue to think) that this is a horrendous mistake. Look on the bright side, if you're right then you get to prove all the experts wrong too. I wouldn't hold your breath though.

 

[I Believe]

Europe wont be on its own because we have each other

Comforting thought isn't it, what happens when the southern EU countries economies nose-dive again, no British money to sling around, you will all share the pain, but not us, very comforting.

 

[NinjaFletch]

Just listen to yourself for goodness sake. Carneys only interest is in the stability and ideally growth of the U.K. economy. For one thing he's bloody American, so it's not like he has some vested interest in the patriotism shite. Before the vote he gave the best advice he could, which is that leaving the EU would be financially disasterous. Then the vote came in and he was faced with a nightmare situation where the pound was about to plummet and the economy was in serious danger. He did what any decent governor would do and came out to say the necessary things to try and soothe people's fears and maintain a little stability at the point where the financial world was panicking. He did it despite knowing that he was making himself look a fool to a lot of people, because he takes his job actually seriously.

The really annoying thing about you Brexiteers (well one of many really, but I digress..) is that you'll take any situation, no matter how clear and obvious and twist it to fit your narrative. The Carney situation isn't complicated, a child could see what happened, but because you don't like that truth, you have to create a bizarre, nonsensical version where he supposedly lied before but randomly came out and decided to support Brexit just 24 hours later.

Seriously, grow the feck up and accept that not everything is what you wish it was. You still have a potential win scenario, Brexit could happen and economically be a big success and then you can rub it in our faces forever. Any revisionist bullshit about the experts not believing what they warned you about is just stupid though. They genuinely thought (and continue to think) that this is a horrendous mistake. Look on the bright side, if you're right then you get to prove all the experts wrong too. I wouldn't hold your breath though.

Canadian, but yes.

 

[Paul the Wolf]

Since when as it been any different Paul? Britain was always the awkward kid on the block, plenty of Allies but no friends, nothing changes in that respect, if we make the goods and provide the services that others want, at the right price, we will trade very well thank you, inside or outside the EU.
Yes some of us want a deal and I reluctantly have come to the conclusion with Theresa at the helm it will be the 'bad deal' she has previously warned against, but then if that's the price we have to pay for our freedom, so be it, we will be outside and can sort our own problems and like the aftermath of all battles there will be the usual 'blood-letting' in both political and economic terms, but it won't just be in Britain, don't kid yourself on that one!

Everyone will always look after themselves first, the idea of the EU is to help each other out, it's not been perfected yet but in time .. to prevent what has happened in history but the Uk think they are still all powerful and can cope on their own, the world has changed.

Of course the UK will continue to trade but it's under which conditions that is important.
May (or anybody that ends up with the task of sorting the mess out) will have no choice but to have a bad deal - the alternative is no deal.

Now what does no deal mean - no deal with the EU, all current treaties and deals void - no membership of the WTO, passporting rights cancelled, the list is endless - how do you get out of this? A realistic vision of this scenario from the Brexit camp should be explained to the UK public with no lies.

 

[I Believe]

For one thing he's bloody American,

I think you will find he's Canadian... enjoyed your rant though, feeling better now, it doesn't change a thing Governor of the Bank of England stays out of Politics end of!

 

[I Believe]

A realistic vision of this scenario from the Brexit camp should be explained to the UK public with no lies.

We trade with whoever wants to trade with us on whatever level we can agree, a 65m market I'm sure we will find one or two interested... please form a queue at Dover!

 

[JPRouve]

Comforting thought isn't it, what happens when the southern EU countries economies nose-dive again, no British money to sling around, you will all share the pain, but not us, very comforting.

How much British money was sling around?

 

[Paul the Wolf]

We trade with whoever wants to trade with us on whatever level we can agree, a 65m market I'm sure we will find one or two interested... please form a queue at Dover!

If the Uk leave with no deal, there will certainly be a queue at Dover, waiting for customs to check each lorry and the documentation.

So on 30th March 2019 with whom have the UK agreed a deal with?

 

[The Outsider]

How much British money was sling around?

JPRouve, I would be happy to hear your solution to Southern Europe if you have the time and inclination. Though probably on a separate thread would be best.

 

[JPRouve]

JPRouve, I would be happy to hear your solution to Southern Europe if you have the time and inclination. Though probably on a separate thread would be best.

The solution to what problem, exactly?