Half a million people all tried to get on at the same time?
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Half a million people all tried to get on at the same time?
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Apparently it looks like there might have been foreign hacking of a government website used for registrations for the referendum. The cabinet committee think there was a DDOS attack that crashed the site, but say it didn't effect the result in any way because the deadline was extended to compensate.
The government spokeswoman meanwhile shows that she has no idea what a DDOS attack actually is with the following statement..
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ay-have-interfered-in-brexit-vote-report-says
That's what a DDOS attack looks like you fecking idiot!
I've yet to hear any goverment figure talk about technology as if they have a fecking clue what they're talking about. Its rather disconcerting.
Im not sure how that committee came to the conclusion it what state sponsored though, the discussion of China and Russia seems to be a general point rather than any involvement. It'll just be hacker groups being pricks as usual.
Perfectly possible, although I assume the intelligence agencies have been looking for patterns that point towards government actors rather than just hacker groups. I'd suspect different governments including western ones have also infiltrated the big hacker groups and use them for their own ends anyway too.
With regards to Russia though, Putin gave a speech years ago about how they were unable to keep up a direct race against the US militarily and with regards to the nuclear balance, and that Russia would look to other means to ensure their safety. I think the massive surge in Russian online hacking/information war stuff is part of this strategy.
EU working to 'push' Britain out of the space race by cancelling Galileo contracts after Brexit
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-companies-galileo-satellite-space-contracts/
I'm sure that NASA would appreciate our $350m a year plus extras, should Brussels with play its games. This would represent 10% of the ESA budget gone, just like that.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-companies-galileo-satellite-space-contracts/
I'm sure that NASA would appreciate our $350m a year plus extras, should Brussels with play its games. This would represent 10% of the ESA budget gone, just like that.
The UK is leaving the EU hence UK based companies can't compete for contracts for EU projects.
And good luck convincing the most protectionist president in US history to allow UK based companies unrestricted access to the US markets.
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Other countries will just have to contribute more as they will with anything else the uk currently contributes to, tuff shit. They could all act like adults and compromise but that's not what they are about.
It is an ESA managed programme; which aside from being a fine example of non-political European cooperation, is not an agency bound to Brussels (although there has been increasing encroachment this past decade).
Mr Kerevan told The Independent: “There is technology there reserved for member states to use for public services, and the UK could be locked out"
Norway and Switzerland are members of the ESA but had to broker their own agreements to join Galileo in 2009 and 2014 respectively.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...u-gps-system-it-helped-to-build-a7574206.html
Brexit means Brexit. Once out of the EU, the UK will have to broker their own new and bold agreement to re-join Galileo like any other third country.
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Security agreements are one thing, punitive financial penalties quite another. And whilst Brexit does indeed mean Brexit, European cooperation existed before the EU became what it has.
Galileo is, as far as I understand it, ESA managed but EU funded.
Seeing as the article you posted is specifically about Galileo I don't really understand the general whinge about the ESA.
With all the talk of the UK having an exit bill to pay towards on going projects, pensions and whateverelse (correctly IMO). Would the UK be entitled to a share of any assets built up by the EU during the time UK has been a member
No one is punishing anybody. The UK is leaving the EU and like all third party countries whose interested in projects meant for the EU audience it has to renegotiate its way in. That's what Norway and Switzerland had done. It would be unfair for these two latter countries if the UK or any third party country is given a free pass
Prior to the EU whom the UK is leaving there was the EEC which the UK had already ruled out as an option because it doesn't want to be 'shackled' by any EU law. Prior to that there was the ECSC whom the UK was against. Before that there were 2 world wars which saw the UK as one of the protagonists and prior to that there were an endless amount of wars, with England busy using the divide and conquer tactic to make sure that no European nation grow strong enough to challenge its dominion on the European fora. The UK is against Shengen, its against the Euro, its against the ECJ, its against the EU despite the fact that the EU was a big factor in turning the UK from the sick person in Europe to the 5th biggest economy in the world and its against the setting up of an EU army. All of which its within its right to leave/not join. However once Brexit occurs its only fair for the EU to decide in which areas they want to keep co-operation with the UK and to what extent. Negotiations are a two way street and the EU can say no to the UK as much as the UK can say no to the EU (the latter happens all the time)
So really, the last thing the UK can talk about is European co-operation. As Guy Verhofstadt perfectly puts it the UK relationship with Europe was always that of a marriage of convenience
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Another reference to war and empires, has someone challenged you to mention it in every post?
It's a pity because it's actually a good post apart from that.
Well I'm not sure the eu is entirely responsible for turning "The Sick Person Of Europe" into the 5th largest economy.
It has however deployed a single currency that has made several countries the sick persons of Europe, basically they have gone backwards.
They could take credit for both of course.
Sorry, and that.
The EU negotiate collectively, why is that so hard for Brexiters to understand?
Because we're British, which apparently translates into 'everyone else should put our needs ahead of their own'.
Glad they're slowly realising it, pity they didn't realise it a year ago
He mentioned about European collaboration which predates the EU and I asked him to what period he was talking exactly. I love European history. I read so many books about it and I visited every single place of interest (St Petersburg, Rome, Venice, London, Vienna, Paris, Madrid, Barcelona, Florence you name it, I visited it). Europe is many things but was never very strong in terms of collaboration. We've got two world wars on our name to testify to that.
Collaboration between the UK and Europe is also oxymoron. Out of all nations the UK is possibly the more resistant towards any sort of European co-operation ever.
Please highlight were I mentioned the empire.
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You visited the Loire Valley?
I said it was a big factor. Not that it was entirely responsible
Its on my hit list. France is a beautiful country to visit and live in
The Thatcher reforms in the 80s were responsible for the transformation of the British economy. That's why they served as a template for national economic reform around the world, including that of countries in Eastern Europe.
Britain joined the Common Market in the early 70s, and was in even worse economic condition by the time Thatcher took office in 1980.
Unrestricted access to the single market helped the UK a great deal. Even now, around half of UK exports go to EU countries. No wonder why the tones are changing and the Brexiteers in government are back paddling furiously.
Oh?
You make it sound like trade with the uk and eu will stop but it wont, it will carry on with tariffs.
its not as simple as that. First of all it all UK based companies will lose their ability to bid for contracts and tenders within the EU market. Secondly if tariffs are introduced then all products coming from the UK will become more expensive for Europeans to buy. The prices will get higher if tariffs are introduced on semi finished products (ex car parts needed to assemble a car).
Nah bollocks, the computer revolution and robotics revolution Is what drove growth, she got lucky and so did Reagan
I think you've got your decades mixed up.
I didn't, the first desktop pc was introduced in 1975, it would have taken time for that innovation to spread. The first microprocessor driven robot was also demonstrated in 1975.
I'm very much on the liberal side of things, but to be fair I think she presided over a push away from union power that was probably needed at the time. Obviously they went far too far with it, but I think things generally get fecked if the needle tilts too far in either direction. Britain really was a mess economically back in the 70's.
It was needed, just the manner in which it was executed was despicable. Maybe Cameron should have sought change in the EU by sending in mounted police to bash them all round the head, seems to work.
I think some sort of tariffs will be involved. Unless of course the UK backtracks to an EU/EEA membership
You could have a tariff free world, they're only there for protectionism.
Nothing wrong with a bit of protectionism, all things in moderation
That's not something the UK can decide on the EU behalf
Correct but if I wanted to trade with you and you likewise we'd just do it. Ebay stylee