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Correct but if I wanted to trade with you and you likewise we'd just do it. Ebay stylee

that can happen if there's a level playing field and the UK remains a member of the EU/EEA. It doesn't seem to be the case. The UK chose to leave the EU so it can change its rules and a change in relationship has an impact on everything including trade
 
Indeed, the world could be tariff free and the eu could stick with tariffs. That would be better.

Actually the EU score low in terms of protectionist measures. The most protectionist countries happen to be the US (and that's before Trump took over) followed by India, two countries Theresa May had been wagging her tail at for quite some time in a bid of getting that bold free trade deal of hers.

But who cares about those markets. There's always Nigeria and Saudi Arabia to make a free trade agreement with

http://uk.businessinsider.com/the-us-is-the-most-protectionist-nation-2015-9?r=US&IR=T

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It's especially incredible considering how much of Britain's eldery population are actually having their arse cleaned by a European nurse right now. But then, what else can you expect from someone wh prefers living in an EU nation and constantly shittalks the UK.
 
Nah bollocks, the computer revolution and robotics revolution Is what drove growth, she got lucky and so did Reagan

Americas economic progress under Reagan was moreso due to Volcker. Reagan's fiscal policy was reckless to say the least. But... getting some people to change the views they haven't already committed in this thread is futile (and frustrating). In general, homemade economists are dangerous and usually dense.
 
There are always better deals out there than with the dirty old men of europe.

The Vatican doesn't do trade deals (I think)

On a serious note, May's idea of parallel talks (divorce and trade deal) had been shot down by the EU who prefers an orderly divorce then to make a trade deal with the UK. A trade deal with the UK scores low in the EU agenda
 
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There are always better deals out there than with the dirty old men of europe.

Ahhh the classic 'we don't need European trade we can trade elsewhere' line. Tell that to all the UK companies dependent on an EU customer base that don't have a demand elsewhere in the world. There's allot of them.
 
On my daily route from my London home (in zone 3) to work (in zone 1) I will see about one or two Eastern European 'beggars' who I just walk past. No beggars at bus stops, very few if any outside tube stations, zero anywhere within the tube station itself, and maybe 1 or 2 on my walk to the office from the station. There are usually one or two I feel sorry for and maybe even contribute by buying them food or some change. At no point do I feel any of them might be a drugged crazy that will stab me for 20p. And I know for 90% of the people 'on the street' there is help even if it doesn't directly take them off the street at once.

If I saw any more homeless than that, and in worst state, i.e. children (no I don't mean the Eastern European ones wearing brand new Nike t-shirt trainers while their mums beg) then I would probably break down in tears. People in London just aren't used to seeing squalor that Europeans and Amercians have become accustomed to in their major cities. These are the unquantifiable differences between living in London and other major western cities.

Having lived for almost 10 years in Milan and about 2 in London, I must say this is the first major difference I've noticed. No beggars. In Italy, you have them everywhere, from bus stops, tube, to knocking on your door sometimes.
 
Having lived for almost 10 years in Milan and about 2 in London, I must say this is the first major difference I've noticed. No beggars. In Italy, you have them everywhere, from bus stops, tube, to knocking on your door sometimes.
I imagine its like that across most of southern and eastern Europe.

sharing the spoils
 
Didn't British politicians vote to prevent info about peado politicians being released. I remember something along those lines. Dirty old men.

Yeah, fair point. Maybe when the EU have a decades long paedo scandal they can deserve the title too.
 
Agreement for what , one contract. If there are no tariffs and regulations anywhere how do you stop the chinese product invading the market. Business is cut-throat

I could be wrong but it sounds like an agreement to not buy products from other sellers which is a protectionist agreement and of the worst kind.
 
I could be wrong but it sounds like an agreement to not buy products from other sellers which is a protectionist agreement and of the worst kind.

Having an agreement with someone to supply a product is fine and that it could be exclusive is fine but that would be for a limited period and if the agreement is tariff-free then suppliers from the same country as devilish would have the same rights.

I think Stan is advocating tariff free worldwide which sounds nice but is unworkable as you lose control and becomes one of Stan's pet hates, a race to the bottom.
 
Having an agreement with someone to supply a product is fine and that it could be exclusive is fine but that would be for a limited period and if the agreement is tariff-free then suppliers from the same country as devilish would have the same rights.

I think Stan is advocating tariff free worldwide which sounds nice but is unworkable as you lose control and becomes one of Stan's pet hates, a race to the bottom.
Its not inconceivable, everyone has to be in agreement tho. The race to the bottom exists now even with whatever regs are in place.
 
Having an agreement with someone to supply a product is fine and that it could be exclusive is fine but that would be for a limited period and if the agreement is tariff-free then suppliers from the same country as devilish would have the same rights.

I think Stan is advocating tariff free worldwide which sounds nice but is unworkable as you lose control and becomes one of Stan's pet hates, a race to the bottom.

It's not inconceivable or unworkable but I don't see the point, what goal is that suppose to achieve? What would be the benefit for Stan? One of the important aspect of tarrifs is that they pay customs costs and unless we decide to just get rid of our relatively high quality standards we will have to monitor and control incoming goods which costs a lot of money.
 
Its not inconceivable, everyone has to be in agreement tho. The race to the bottom exists now even with whatever regs are in place.

Yes everyone. "I can do it cheaper" has always existed.
An example was some of the products I was dealing with in the early 2000s - Europe and the USA both decided to put a zero tariff on those products to assist China in their development.
Result - in the USA most of the companies manufacturing those products went bust and quite a few in Europe until they reintroduced tariffs
 
It's not inconceivable or unworkable but I don't see the point, what goal is that suppose to achieve? What would be the benefit for Stan? One of the important aspect of tarrifs is that they pay customs costs and unless we decide to just get rid of our relatively high quality standards we will have to monitor and control incoming goods which costs a lot of money.

It's not unworkable or inconceivable if every country in the world is in agreement and everyone abides by the same regulations and everyone was on a fairly even playing field, it works in the EU and there are no customs or duties to pay within the EU.

One of the Davis/Gove/Johnson trio, can't remember which one, said that the tariffs would pay for the increased government investment in the NHS etc but the tariffs are paid by the importer and thus the consumer.

There's no advantage to Stan because someone who can produce it much cheaper somewhere else will undercut him.
 
It's not unworkable or inconceivable if every country in the world is in agreement and everyone abides by the same regulations and everyone was on a fairly even playing field, it works in the EU and there are no customs or duties to pay within the EU.

One of the Davis/Gove/Johnson trio, can't remember which one, said that the tariffs would pay for the increased government investment in the NHS etc but the tariffs are paid by the importer and thus the consumer.

There's no advantage to Stan because someone who can produce it much cheaper somewhere else will undercut him.

Yeah, that's how I see it. What Stanley propose makes sense locally which is why the globe is divided in free trade areas.
 
Can't say I knew either were based here, but that was surely inevitable. Would've thought the parliament and ECJ in Belgium and France are the real 'crown jewels' tbh.

It was especially humerous though because the Express decided to run the story under a tagline of how the EU were 'punishing' Britain. By doing exactly what Leave voters voted for..
 
Can't say I knew either were based here, but that was surely inevitable. Would've thought the parliament and ECJ in Belgium and France are the real 'crown jewels' tbh.

Months ago, I read that the EBA being in London was great for the Uk because it made it more vulnerable to lobbying. Do you know anything about that?
 
It was especially humerous though because the Express decided to run the story under a tagline of how the EU were 'punishing' Britain. By doing exactly what Leave voters voted for..
EU chooses to house EU institutions in the EU shocker.

Months ago, I read that the EBA being in London was great for the Uk because it made it more vulnerable to lobbying. Do you know anything about that?
Not really tbh. ECB was certainly widely seen as anti-London, resenting so much euro trading being settled in the City though.