Absolute horseshit. You do know the UK did trade with the world before the EU was invented.
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Absolute horseshit. You do know the UK did trade with the world before the EU was invented.
You just quoted and bolded a line about a non-EU country not being allowed to compete for EU projects (which is completely true) and called it horseshit because pre-EU we used to trade with people? That was very confusing..
So the policy is utterly stupid, but sure Andy, only rich people drink coffee.
Leave means Leave except when it means Leave
Prior to the EU was invented UK companies couldn't bid to governmental contracts of other countries unless the latter gave consent. I know because we had a similar situation in Malta a few years back. Now every government contract is published outside and any company within the EU can place a bid for it. Once outside the UK, British based companies won't be given that luxury, unless of course, the UK accepts the 4 freedoms
I could be wrong but I think Jippy was trying to say there are a lot of statements of the bleeding obvious at the moment. Everyone knows.
Not got a clue how important they are but happy to post the inevitable consequences of leaving the EU every time they come up.
They will be saying that our MEP's won't be able to vote after we leave Europe next. The English hating European bastards.
Yes on both interrelated counts! How the hell that 'Brexit bill' will ever be agreed without us bending over in the hope of receiving some scraps from the trade table is beyond me.
Brexit could be about to take its second administration.
Wahaaaay, pounds on the rise, Paul will be pleased
More a case of the Dollar on the slide
How about 250 pips gain on the Yen and 200 on the euro?
The election announcement has helped the pound as well but FTSE also suffered biggest loss since the referendum, one goes up the other goes down.
If Le Pen loses the french election, I would expect a rise in the Euro.
Note that Hammond says he welcomed the rise in Sterling whereas before we kept being told the fall in the Pound was good for exports.
I don't expect major changes until we know how Brexit negotiations progress.
The world has changed a lot since then. The UK isn't going to return to pre-EU type trading deals and mechanisms.
Tbf, Hammond was never in the fall camp, I doubt any on the usual suspects Hannan, Farage and ReesMogg would change their tone.
That said, now May will have a chance to have a soft landing rather than a hard one.
That's shortsighted.
She could but as she changes her mind so often, who knows which stance she will take.
The world has, but to pretend that the UK would no longer trade with Europe is disingenuous to say the best.
The market was already down before the announcement tbh- lower iron ore prices weighing on the miners.
@Rado_N I think this is an example of the dull technical points we were talking about earlier, just realised...
Yes part of the reason for the FTSE fall was for the iron ore but also partly because of rise in Sterling, also partly the weakness of USD, quite a few factors today plus a vague possibility of a softer brexit.
The rise in sterling is somewhat counter-intuitive if May has carte blanche for hard Brexit. Currency markets are a bit of a casino.
I suppose you could argue that markets have already priced in the cost of a Hard Brexit and are reckoning on May having a better negotiating position?
Or equally I guess optimistically hoping that she might lose.
Or if she has a larger majority, with lots of lovely soft brexit tories, she doesnt need the hard brexit tories to get it through
She's 1/10 with Paddy Power so that's some optimism.
Can't see how a bigger majority becomes a bargaining chip when convincing Wallonia to let us keep our passporting rights tbh.
Well said Kentonio
John Redwood is also the economist at Charles Stanley, an investment manager which is politically neutral in its corporate stance.Or if she has a larger majority, with lots of lovely soft brexit tories, she doesnt need the hard brexit tories to get it through
It's odd- he's clearly frothing at the mouth but can't say what he truly thinks. What is the split of hard/soft Brexit among Tory MPs do we reckon?
Well no. It represents a fundamental misunderstand of how the EU works and why our position is weak, but I guess theres a lot of that going around.
Well yes but while there's hope. If it is a soft Brexit then the pound will gain, if it's hard then it will lose again
@Paul the Wolf
Will your tory friends back home change their way of voting now?
Once bitten and all that.
Will your tory friends back home change their way of voting now?
Once bitten and all that.
It's going to be as hard as IDS's cock when the universal credit cuts were announced, I fear.
Funny I was thinking on similar lines also as to how all the Labour voters I know who voted for Brexit.
I've no idea and nor do they probably
Also if I was there now I wouldn't have a choice for who to vote for. No-one represents my views, so no vote.
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I would have thought so, as there was little point otherwise - the only reason I see for this election is to ensure she's still in power if it all goes wrong
Read some articles today about Brexiters getting angry that some EU-related companies are leaving UK. Apparently Brexit means Brexit, who would have thought that?!
Surely you would vote for the most pro eu person you could find, nes pas?
Well if.you all get together and change it then these companies will be shown up to be the pricks they really are, and they really are pricks.
Why EU related companies (medicine, EURO banking sector, EU funded space projects etc) are pricks for wanting to work in EU instead of a third country? Why don't UK companies who clear derivatives denominated in pounds work in Frankfurt? Gesture of good sport and all that.
Lib dems - don't think that would make much difference, the UK are off anyway - if I hadn't made the decision to emigrate 10 years ago, I would now