Yup, you are probably right. It's the one hurdle that Kosovo, Albania and Bosnia will face.
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Yup, you are probably right. It's the one hurdle that Kosovo, Albania and Bosnia will face.
Our daughter used to live in Brook Green, near Hammersmith in West London. It has more French nationals living there than almost anywhere else in the UK, complete with French schools, etc.
Whenever we went there, we felt as though we were in one of the better areas of Paris - not exactly the 16th or 17th, but you know what I mean.
So yes, they do tend to stick together in the UK ( and which, I suppose, is why our daughter was living there ) but contrary to your modesty, every French national I came across spoke excellent English.
Edited to add - And with that impossible-to-resist sexy French accent.
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Yeah I forgot Kosovo, in any case it's pretty much an American colony right now with few signs of that changing anytime soon.
Who knows ?
This is more like the EU that I'm used to....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39232136
In the case of France, last summer it was said that we would give britons citizenships without questions. Basically if a briton asks for a residency card, he is going to have it relatively fast.
I did read the Wiki, so there was no need for a repost. I still don't see how the are preparing Morocco for EU membership
What makes me laugh about Turkey's case is that everyone's always talking about it like Turkey actually wants to be a part of the EU, whereas the reality is that Turkish people are incredibly apathetic about the idea. Since what you've said it more than likely true, and what I've said certainly is, it's pretty irritating to constantly see uninformed opinions about Turkey's position on the EU.
The EU would never actually use those words.
I was just saying I've seen the same criticism you mentioned aimed at people from within the EU.
In my experience the light to heavy xenophobia towards immigrates over not speaking the native language or not having the native accent has almost nothing to do with practicality, it has more to do with a simply a dislike of people be different.
You have severe problems understanding basic political procedures. Nothing there indicates any chance for Morroco to join the EU.
See people, that's why I'm against direct democracy
FENNER....
Interesting link here -
https://www.quora.com/Does-Turkey-want-to-join-the-EU-Why
If I understand it correctly, it seems Turkey has about the same 50/50 split over joining the EU as the UK has about staying in the EU - ie, Big Business says yes, the average man-in-the-street says no....
Interesting link here -
https://www.quora.com/Does-Turkey-want-to-join-the-EU-Why
If I understand it correctly, it seems Turkey has about the same 50/50 split over joining the EU as the UK has about staying in the EU - ie, Big Business says yes, the average man-in-the-street says no....
can we introduce some cars into this mix?
We can give you Renault.
You're really quite insulting, aren't you ? Two replies, four personal insults.
You probably think Suarez isn't a cheat, either....Anyway,
' integration of the single market on the basis of gradual adoption of the Community acquis and sectoral cooperation '
Definition of Community Acquis -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acquis_communautaire
So....
You're suggesting that the €1.5 billion wasn't for integration of the single market on the basis of gradual adoption of the Community acquis but that the EU gave Morocco €1.5 billion because it found a bit of spare cash lying in the bottom of a draw of someone's desk in Brussels and they didn't need the cash themselves ?
Or are you suggesting that the € 1.5 billion was a sweetener to STOP Morocco from applying for EU membership....
Countries have the ability to veto the entry of others; the chances of nations like Morocco and Turkey getting in are between extremely slim and non-existent.
All you really need to do is read the first two answers. The second one in particular, submitted back in late 2014, is a good summary of Turkish attitudes on EU membership that still exist today, probably more so. Essentially, the EU's a bit full of itself and Turkey isn't having it.
That's more or less making Morocco a second Turkey, who are not getting into the EU.
I'd never even heard about Morocco potentially joining the EU until I saw it on here. Sounds like the typical scaremongering bollocks.
They have no chance, I know that when they tried to convince EU members that it was an idea, they have been politely told that they were africans. The EU is willing to have a strong relationship with African nations but there will be no membership.
Because they're not going to join
https://eeas.europa.eu/headquarters/headquarters-homepage_en/8398/ ENP Action Plans
This will probably start rumours that Palestine, Egypt, Armenia and Jordan will be joining soon
More likely is England to become the 51st state of the USA
If the idea picked up enough momentum, you'd still see stupid headlines like "Morrocout!" and "Marakeshing in"
I still remember the headline about 20 million Turkish people being ready to flood into the UK after becoming an EU member. I don't know whether to find it offensive or amusing.
I still remember the headline about 20 million Turkish people being ready to flood into the UK after becoming an EU member. I don't know whether to find it offensive or amusing.
As the UK is going to become a third World country after BREXIT ( well, according to a lot of posters on here and lots of the EU's and UK's own politicians ) do you think the EU will take pity on the them and work to develop a similar ' strong relationship ' with the UK ?
Nope....Thought not....
You're just trying to dodge the original issue now, namely that Morocco and Turkey aren't going to be joining the EU, and the suggestion they will is inaccurate.
I speak English wherever i go and whoever i talk to if i can get away with it, i am comfortable with that.
I said from start that I don't understand the idea of Brexit and I also don't believe that Armageddon is the next step for the UK. The EU and UK will find a way to make both richer and will have a special bond.
You live in Holland though and day to day life should be more simple for you than most places in Europe if you don't speak the language. If you are conversing with commercial or business people there's a good chance they will speak English in many more countries.
Used to do a lot of business in Holland and always spoke English when I went there on business - could understand a bit of Dutch with my fading knowledge of German
Why do you think the UK will find a way to make itself richer? I'd put the chances of that at about <5% right now.
I was thinking about the UK with the EU because I believe that nothing will really change, UK politicians will pretend to have more power while EU politicians will play along while they both do what they have been doing for decades.
I mean what is Brexit going to change?
I think I've already explained and corrected what I first said - I answered to Wibbles's comment ' Most countries would love to be in ' by saying that Turkey, Morocco and Ukraine are the three countries that most want(ed) to join the EU; the problems that each would bring if this happened; and that I didn't think that thay would be joining the EU too soon.
If you guys know through inside knowledge that they won't be joining, then my comment is inaccurate as you say.
If you guys think they won't be joining, then my own thoughts that they will probably join at some point in the future is no more accurate or inaccurate than yours.
Undodged ??
We're past that point. If Britain is indeed leaving the single market and customs union, then for one thing its going to have to very quickly introduce a vast amount of customs infrastructure and regulation that its in absolutely no position currently to deal with. I'm not sure how they avoid that without the Tories caving in, and right now all May's cards are in a hand marked 'Great deal or no deal'.
Let's see what happens in the coming years. The important thing to remember is that if the tories have a bad deal and the UK suffers, they or someone else will still be allowed to negotiate with the EU for a different deal, treatis are adjustable and evolutive.
Sometimes this thread gives the impression that May's Brexit is the last conversation ever between the EU and the UK but it's not and she should think about that.
Not really, though. Being able to join requires meeting sets of criteria which none of the three countries meet or are likely to meet, and the ability to join also requires every single country to approve since countries are allowed to veto.
I'm getting an anti muslim feeling from the pro eu group here, thought that was reserved for anti eu thugs
If a proposal to allow people to fart in public was tabled it would also take becking from 27 countries and probably 7 years to reach a decision.
In what sense?
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C'mon...I thought I'd clarified and explained why I said what I said....
As for the your other comment - agree totally about criteria and vetos.... For the resons you point out, none of the three would ' get the nod ' right now.
But things change over time, and as the EU evolves ( might be for the better, might be for the worse ) during the next 10 > 20 years, so will individual countries' attitudes to admitting new members or, even, losing some of the current members.
I guess what I'm trying to say is what might be vetoed today might not be vetoed 10 or 15 years from now.
And as for meeting different criteria, well the EU has plenty of form in moving the goalposts and lowering its required standards to suit its needs....
Undodged this time ?
Which ones?