Er, tit leaning. I'm nine years older than her and have been her sounding board in the past. Was odd though, wasn't sure what ws on the cards.
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Her soft tit v my hard BrexitA hard Brexit was on the cards by the looks of things, if ya know what I mean...
Weird night.This is particularly stupid seeing as you are in Holland. You're a tiny nation, you wouldn't be as rich as you are without the commerce from your neighbours
Millions of tonnes of freight pass through Holland and onto other nations and you want to make that more difficult.
Stick borders up everywhere. See how much poorer you'll become, because you will
Any certainty is better than uncertainty. It's been unclear for so long that any hard statement would bump sterling. Now people have had time to digest the speech I think it will resume it's decline for a while longer.
I'm confused. Are you the one actually living in Holland or is the poster giving their opinion? This is the problem I find. If you are from Holland too then you have a debate. If you are not from Holland, then you are dictating to someone that is and they are entitled to their view. We live in a world full of sales people. People should mind their fecking business. Peoples situations are different. What people appreciate is different and when people encroach on that, then people realize they just don't like each other.
Somethings are wrong and it's fine to say it but when people talk about their own country, then it's wrong to dictate to them. The posters experienced both and preferred how it was. A basic way of looking at it, but valid. Why not ask them why rather then judging them as foolish?
And it still will. Think of all those cornish fishermen that will be delighted getting their fishing grounds back too
Nobody ever took them away.
On a side note, you English are such fussy twats about eating fish there are huge numbers of species of seafood caught in British waters that can only be sold outside the UK, mainly in the EU. Will they be delighted about the barriers to trade too? Because it's great news for boats operating out of Ireland, that's for damn sure.
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As i have said before, some dutch fisheries catch 87% of their haul on british waters, they are shit scared. Govts could always come to an agreement i spose, if they wanted like.
Yet in your previous post you were arguing that the Dutch economy would be unharmed by restrictions on trade and movement. Teresa May isn't the only one trying to have cake and eat it.
As far as Rotterdam shipping is concerned no, it wont an that's what I was responding to. Do you think t will all move back to Liverpool?
It's a bit outdated but in 2013 the UK represented 4% of the seafood and fish imports to Netherland.
I talked with two Dutch colleagues of mine a few days ago about that topic. One of them is fairly critical about the EU (which in itself is certainly not a bad thing). When I asked him if it would be wise for the Netherlands to follow a similar path as the British, he laughed out loud and replied: "Hell no. I might not be Brüssel´s biggest fan but leaving the common market would have catastrophic consequences for our economy, especially the trade over Rotterdam."
The port of Rotterdam is still the largest container port of the Western world, mostly because it functions as a massive hub to distribute European goods all over the world and to take in goods from all over the world for the European market.
If you now put up borders again, introduce a new (or old) currency, legal restraints and tariffs, it is only a matter of time until the port plummets in the rankings. Why in the world would large companies put up with these hurdles and additional costs instead of rerouting their goods over ports like Hamburg, Antwerp or Bremen, especially when a considerable part of their goods roll over the German Autobahn in the first place?
And that is just the consequences for shipping. In difference to the UK, the Netherlands are in the middle of Europe, neighboured by EU states from all sides. A quarter of all their exports go to Germany alone, which is to large part because of the shared currency, the short distance and advantages of the single market. Negative impact of that relationship would cost thousands of Dutch jobs.
The BrExit is already an unwise move, a NExit would be damn near suicidal.
The port of Rotterdam is still the largest container port of the Western world, mostly because it functions as a massive hub to distribute European goods all over the world and to take in goods from all over the world for the European market.
If you now put up borders again, introduce a new (or old) currency, legal restraints and tariffs, it is only a matter of time until the port plummets in the rankings. Why in the world would large companies put up with these hurdles and additional costs instead of rerouting their goods over ports like Hamburg, Antwerp or Bremen, especially when a considerable part of their goods roll over the German Autobahn in the first place?
And that is just the consequences for shipping. In difference to the UK, the Netherlands are in the middle of Europe, neighboured by EU states from all sides. A quarter of all their exports go to Germany alone, which is to large part because of the shared currency, the short distance and advantages of the single market. Negative impact of that relationship would cost thousands of Dutch jobs.
The BrExit is already an unwise move, a NExit would be damn near suicidal.
I think I do
Well in 2016 I watched an interview on the news with an actual dutch fishery owner that said the catch they were unloading( camera focused on this enormous haul being unloaded )consisted mostly of fish from British waters, 87% to be exact
Remain would be crazy
I'm going to go ahead and guess that the Netherlands has more than one fishery.
It does, NL provides fish for much of Europe, a lot from UK waters. They could always make a deal with the uk...........oh wait, they cant
I think you've missed the point.
NEXIT would literally mean nothing in reality. Germany is the biggest country and economy of Europe, and they've been our biggest and most important trade partner since forever, probably even centuries ago before 'Germany' existed. Post war Gulden was directly linked to Deutsche Mark, which means it was linked to the currency of the biggest ecomony of Europe, who are the biggest trade partner of 17 other European countries too.
A Dutch 'exit' wouldn't change all that. Shit, a government coming up with a plan to break ties with Germany and therefore Europe, that would probably literally be acting against some core articles of the constitution. So a Nexit would just be a chair switching game, renaming a couple of things to please the angry masses, while business continues as usual.
A Dutch 'exit' wouldn't change all that. Shit, a government coming up with a plan to break ties with Germany and therefore Europe, that would probably literally be acting against some core articles of the constitution. So a Nexit would just be a chair switching game, renaming a couple of things to please the angry masses, while business continues as usual.
I have?
He does that a lot. Like I said, I don't think he properly reads the post he responds to.
Well all of it is speculation, if UK does well in a few years time then it might be a game changer, if it goes to shit then everyone can carry on stagnating in the EU as they are now
I do
Hopefully the Brits will now lay their hands off our scallops
Anyway, all this talk of fisheries and such is distracting us from focusing on our beloved banks and finance gamblers upping sticks
I saw it too but you are mixing up the all picture with a handful of companies. I'm pretty sure that I could find french companies that almost exclusively works with the UK.
Edit: In 2015 7% of the industry imported from the UK.
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Well the anti EU sentiments will push politics towards applying some reforms, and there's not much wrong with that. But then again, normally I'd say the end results of Brexit would only mean some title changes and sensible reforms too. The problem is though, at the moment it seems like a massive and very unnecessary risk, the whole Western world is proper a shambles right now and all this political chair switching can create huge volatility. Which on its turn, throughout history, usually has led to monumental cock-ups instead of sensible decisons.
No it won't. You decide to stick customs checks on all the trucks that pass through Holland and Visa requirments on all the Drivers and see how long it lasts
Its a nation that sits slap bang between the continents two large economies. It's the port for a lot of goods that travel into this nations. People and goods will pass through their everyday. It doesn't take a lot to work out why making things harder for Dutch citizens to trade outside their border would make them poorer.
Boris Johnson, the foreign secretary, is in India and, speaking in Delhi, he has responded to French criticism of the UK’s plan to leave the European union, implicitly comparing the French president, Francois Hollande, to a Nazi. He said:
If Mr Hollande wants to administer punishment beatings to anybody who seeks to escape [the EU], in the manner of some world war two movie, I don’t think that is the way forward, and it’s not in the interests of our friends and partners.
It seems absolutely incredible to me that in the 21st century member states of the EU should be seriously contemplating the reintroduction of tariffs or whatever to administer punishment to the UK.
Does Boris actually understand anything at all?
If Mr Hollande wants to administer punishment beatings to anybody who seeks to escape [the EU], in the manner of some world war two movie, I don’t think that is the way forward, and it’s not in the interests of our friends and partners.
It seems absolutely incredible to me that in the 21st century member states of the EU should be seriously contemplating the reintroduction of tariffs or whatever to administer punishment to the UK.
Does Boris actually understand anything at all?
That's cause the British fishermen sold their rights to them. Can't blame the EU for that
This rings a lot of bells to me. This is very much my view prior to the vote and most remainers I've talked to. It does get a bit tiring being told to shove our 'love of the EU' when most don't even care that much either way - we just knew politicians were lying through their teeth regarding what would happen in the scenario of Brexit and preferred to keep things as they are (as we had current day evidence that being in the EU doesn't mean the sky is falling). I don't care for Brussels but the EU hasn't done (and wouldn't have done) anything to stop me achieving what I want. I guess I don't feel my future is particularly threatened by Brexit but I don't see where things are going to improve with this process.
Again I find irony in the right-wing types who usually call those on the left 'the extremists' being the major drivers of a move that will destabilise an entire country for little justification.
Someone should explain this nutjob that tariffs are not punishment, but the norm when it comes to international trading. The excemption of said tariffs is the whole purpose of a trading bloc like the EU, a bloc he did his utmost (including telling blatant lies) to lead his people out of.
He understands but too many people are pretending that you can leave a custom union and still benefit from it's advantages, it makes no sense but some people think that it's a thing. Also let's pretend that the UK don't use tariffs.
As usual, I think he's cleverer than he seems. He's throwing shapes so when the Uk gets fecked, financially, by Brexit this can be spun into the evil EU "punishing" them even though he knows full well a reintroduction of tariffs is inevitable. The odious, deceitful prick.
Quite honestly, from the reactions I heard from a lot of Brexiters, they are not pretending but simply massively misinformed and never bothered to educate themselves before voting their country towards the edge of a cliff. With May they have also find themselves the suitable person to push it over said edge.
So, in the name of free trade can we expect Admiral Johnson's fleet to blast its way into Rotterdam port ?
What would they do, move it one weekend?