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Boris Johnson, the foreign secretary, is in India and, speaking in Delhi, he has responded to French criticism of the UK’s plan to leave the European union, implicitly comparing the French president, Francois Hollande, to a Nazi. He said:

If Mr Hollande wants to administer punishment beatings to anybody who seeks to escape [the EU], in the manner of some world war two movie, I don’t think that is the way forward, and it’s not in the interests of our friends and partners.

It seems absolutely incredible to me that in the 21st century member states of the EU should be seriously contemplating the reintroduction of tariffs or whatever to administer punishment to the UK.


Does Boris actually understand anything at all?
While Boris is a nutter that has had praise on the caf before brexit, who the feck is Hollande to have an opinion on anything, get yer own fecking house in order Mr Popular
 
While Boris is a nutter that has had praise on the caf before brexit, who the feck is Hollande to have an opinion on anything, get yer own fecking house in order Mr Popular

Well, as of right now he is the political leader of the 2nd strongest EU economy and a country with a direct and pretty important border to the UK. If he is not allowed to have an opinion on the kind of Brexit the British government is planning than who is?
 
Well, as of right now he is the political leader of the 2nd strongest EU economy and a country with a direct and pretty important border to the UK. If he is not allowed to have an opinion on the kind of Brexit the British government is planning than who is?
The person in charge when negotiations begin

Large economy yes, large growth no

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The person in charge when negotiations begin

At one point the leaders of each EU member will be part of negotiations. Hollande won´t sign anything at that point, but right now he is still a main player of the EU.

Large economy yes, large growth no

Never said anything about growth, I was talking about current size. When Bulgaria overtakes France in that aspect we can talk.

Comparing growth percentages with each other is misleading in the first place as it does not take the size of an economy into account. If I go according to that chart, I would think that the German economy is struggling, which is according to all experts pretty much nonsense. Massive economies growing one percent is just way harder to accomplish than smaller countries like Portugal or Bulgaria.
 
While Boris is a nutter that has had praise on the caf before brexit, who the feck is Hollande to have an opinion on anything, get yer own fecking house in order Mr Popular

The quirk to this story is that Hollande hasn't said anything. It's what is going to happen if the UK leave whether Boris likes it or not.
Wasn't it last week when he called the "Height of Insanity" to endanger the Anglo-German investment in each other's country - the Uk have done that by leaving

Boris is supposed to be the UK's foreign secretary who surely must have even just a basic understanding of how the world works
He is totally clueless.
 
At one point the leaders of each EU member will be part of negotiations. Hollande won´t sign anything at that point, but right now he is still a main player of the EU.



Never said anything about growth, I was talking about current size. When Bulgaria overtakes France in that aspect we can talk.

Comparing growth percentages with each other is misleading in the first place as it does not take the size of an economy into account. If I go according to that chart, I would think that the German economy is struggling, which is according to all experts pretty much nonsense. Massive economies growing one percent is just way harder to accomplish than smaller countries like Portugal or Bulgaria.

Exactly. Ireland's GDP growth rate in 2016 was better than any country on that chart (despite being not included, for some reason) but only an idiot would use these data to try and argue that our economy is in better shape than Germany's.
 
I'm starting to think you're way out of depth in all these discussions and are just trolling at this stage.

Something you have in common with a lot of the main Leave campaigners.
Well you have a lot in common with remain campers and while I thought you had no idea on this topic, I did not want to mention it but now you have.....
 
The quirk to this story is that Hollande hasn't said anything. It's what is going to happen if the UK leave whether Boris likes it or not.
Wasn't it last week when he called the "Height of Insanity" to endanger the Anglo-German investment in each other's country - the Uk have done that by leaving

Boris is supposed to be the UK's foreign secretary who surely must have even just a basic understanding of how the world works
He is totally clueless.
Don't know mate, it's only the remain campers that listen to him, tells you enough
 
Exactly. Ireland's GDP growth rate in 2016 was better than any country on that chart (despite being not included, for some reason) but only an idiot would use these data to try and argue that our economy is in better shape than Germany's.
Never said anything about growth, I was talking about current size. When Bulgaria overtakes France in that aspect we can talk
Would you say the French economy is in good shape?

Being just "Big" isn't the be all and end all
 
The person in charge when negotiations begin

Large economy yes, large growth no

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:lol: If Germany is growing by 0.2 percent, France by 0.2 percent and Bulgaria by 0.8 percent which is more important to do business with?

Clue: 0.8 percent of Bulgaria's GDP is $0.4 billion, 0.2 percent of France's GDP is $5.6 billion, and 0.2 percent of Germany's GDP is $7.4 billion

But yes. Let's focus on growth markets, because of course the difference between relative and absolute growth does not exist for Brexiters.
 
As usual, I think he's cleverer than he seems. He's throwing shapes so when the Uk gets fecked, financially, by Brexit this can be spun into the evil EU "punishing" them even though he knows full well a reintroduction of tariffs is inevitable. The odious, deceitful prick.

He's someone who likes to play the fool because he thinks he's intelligent, but who in reality is nowhere near as intelligent as he (and others around him) believe.

He's well-educated, yeah, but I genuinely don't think he's as clever as people make him out to be: picked the wrong horse in the Brexit debate and had no alternative, managed to insult a whole batch of people upon becoming Foreign Secretary, and managed to have his leadership chances damaged by Michael fecking Gove. I refuse to believe anyone who is obscured from doing what they want by Michael Gove is as intelligent as they say they are.
 
Would you say the French economy is in good shape?

Being just "Big" isn't the be all and end all

It isn't, and I'd say quality of living, safety etc is more important to a country, but the original point of discussion relates to France (and Hollande's importance) and that is unquestioned considering their size and status. Growth charts don't deflate their status.
 
It isn't, and I'd say quality of living, safety etc is more important to a country, but the original point of discussion relates to France (and Hollande's importance) and that is unquestioned considering their size and status. Growth charts don't deflate their status.
Well I see Hollandes opinion now about the same as any leader on the way out
 
Would you say the French economy is in good shape?

Being just "Big" isn't the be all and end all

That's not the point though, France are the second biggest market and 0.2% means that that market is still growing, not by much but it's still growing and that market has a say in those negotiations.

Also Hollande didn't say anything.
 
He's someone who likes to play the fool because he thinks he's intelligent, but who in reality is nowhere near as intelligent as he (and others around him) believe.

He's well-educated, yeah, but I genuinely don't think he's as clever as people make him out to be: picked the wrong horse in the Brexit debate and had no alternative, managed to insult a whole batch of people upon becoming Foreign Secretary, and managed to have his leadership chances damaged by Michael fecking Gove. I refuse to believe anyone who is obscured from doing what they want by Michael Gove is as intelligent as they say they are.

Oh absolutely. It's all relative. He's cleverer than he seems but mainly because he seems so unbelievably stupid.
 
Yeah we did this months ago

You find huge stagnant economies the place to be at and I dont

Well, Ethopia is probably nice this time of the year. I rather stay in my stagnating country, which has by pretty much all accounts a damn high standart of living.
 
Johnson said: “[Britain] can put a 10% tariff on 820,000 cars, Mercs. That’s a lot of money for the exchequer.

Does he understand that it is the British consumer who is paying the 10% not the manufacturer. Does the average Brexiter understand this.
 
Is it, I thought the UK was, that same uk that's growing more that france even in crisis

Aren't we talking about negotiations with the UK on the other side of the table? With Brexit, France is the second biggest market in the EU and a market almost as big as the Uk market by the way, so neither country should start a dick swinging contest.
 
Johnson said: “[Britain] can put a 10% tariff on 820,000 cars, Mercs. That’s a lot of money for the exchequer.

Does he understand that it is the British consumer who is paying the 10% not the manufacturer. Does the average Brexiter understand this.
No because I would say over half of them have not voted for financial reasons and are in for one hell of a shock. Who will they blame next? The Jews?
 
Johnson said: “[Britain] can put a 10% tariff on 820,000 cars, Mercs. That’s a lot of money for the exchequer.

Does he understand that it is the British consumer who is paying the 10% not the manufacturer. Does the average Brexiter understand this.
No because I would say over half of them have not voted for financial reasons and are in for one hell of a shock. Who will they blame next? The Jews?

17 million Britons, stupid or anti-Semitic. Yes, you Remainers are such a wonderful bunch, the ones defending decency in the UK. :rolleyes:
 
Can see another serious north/south divide coming as well. The ones up north who voted out thinking it will be great for them and jobs. Knowing this government things will be focused on the South and London again.
 
17 million Britons, stupid or anti-Semitic. Yes, you Remainers are such a wonderful bunch, the ones defending decency in the UK. :rolleyes:
I didn't say all of them. The Jews have been blamed for every financial catastrophe for centuries so don't say it doesn't happen. A lot voted out on immigration with no mind to the financial consequences to the country. An MP was murdered in one region by a nut job and still they voted out.
 
I didn't say all of them. The Jews have been blamed for every financial catastrophe for centuries so don't say it doesn't happen. A lot voted out on immigration with no mind to the financial consequences to the country. An MP was murdered in one region by a nut job and still they voted out.

To be fair, it's a loaded topic and insinuating that the Leavers could shift their eyes on Jews isn't a good idea, it just creates dissension.
 
To be fair, it's a loaded topic and insinuating that the Leavers could shift their eyes on Jews isn't a good idea, it just creates dissension.
Sorry. I just find it annoying that actually most of the world problems are caused by politicians and their cronies, yet some would rather blame a race of people. There again it's people who vote them in.
 
Sorry. I just find it annoying that actually most of the world problems are caused by politicians and their cronies, yet some would rather blame a race of people. There again it's people who vote them in.

I agree with you that's why I have a hard time blaming the actual voters, I know that no one forces them to vote as they do but politicians exploits the lack of knowledge in certain domains to create fears and gain votes.
 
Yeah we did this months ago

You find huge stagnant economies the place to be at and I dont

This is just a stupid position. In terms of opportunities for UK growth we should look at the absolute growth of others, not their relative growth