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Surely this isn't what the UK people voted for? To "take back" a country and then let it get butt-fecked by giant cooperations? Everyone I know who voted leave hates that Starbucks, Amazon, Google etc get away with what the already do in the UK.

This is actually the saddest thing about the whole thing so far for me :(
 
devilish said:
The funny thing is that if the economy go bust its going to be difficult for UK young people to flee the country and find jobs elsewhere
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Yes, one of my favourite lines from the Brexiteers after the referendum..

"If you don't like it, move somewhere else!"

You just took away people's right to freedom of movement, you silly feckers! :lol:
 
The french right plans on lowering company taxes by 50bn. So both countries will be in competition.
 
JPRouve said:
The french right plans on lowering company taxes too by 50bn. So both countries will be in competition.
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And the French have a better weather, full access to the single market + a great cuisine.

They might have to pay tarriffs on the Walthamstow cake though. Its high time you start to learn doing some cakes deary. ;)
 
Regulus Arcturus Black said:
Surely this isn't what the UK people voted for? To "take back" a country and then let it get butt-fecked by giant cooperations? Everyone I know who voted leave hates that Starbucks, Amazon, Google etc get away with what the already do in the UK.

This is actually the saddest thing about the whole thing so far for me :(
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Sadly predictable
 
Let's get real. The truth is that most people who voted for leave did so out of chauvinism and xenophobia. There are obviously plenty of exceptions, but for the majority of people who voted to leave it certainly applies.
 
Rams said:
Let's get real. The truth is that most people who voted for leave did so out of chauvinism and xenophobia. There are obviously plenty of exceptions, but for the majority of people who voted to leave it certainly applies.
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FFS don't mention the X word in front of leavers. They might not want them in their country which is strange considering that they don't shy from moving in other countries themselves but that's not xenophobia. Same thing can be said about expecting countries to open up their market to British businesses like family would do while putting restrictions on their people to live in the UK. Asking full access to their money but not to their people is perfectly reasonable.
 
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I think its quite worrying how similar the overall language of the tories on brexit is to Trumps own. Lots of vague promises how we're going to do things the best way, the right way without any actual substance. Of course the tories arent preaching to rednecks so they dont dumb it down quite as much.
 
Kentonio said:
Have you ever actually been to England? :lol:
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I live here unfortunately. I dont think there's ever been a UK politician who dumbs language down to the level that Trump does, intentional or not. The Sun is supposed to have a reading age of 8, Trump must be about 5.
 
Regulus Arcturus Black said:
She's not outlined anything concrete as yet which won't surprise anyone, it's all very wishy washy right now but...



So yeah, the UK looks like it's preparing to bend over to big business... nice. So we can look forward to even more of the big businesses running the World, and that ginormous gap between the rich and well anyone else getting ever larger and larger.
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well low corporation tax is a good idea if you want to keep jobs in the uk, the dept I worked in at ibm ended up in Ireland due to their business incentives. NL offer it to businesses here for 10 years and that's why there are soooo many English speaking multinationals here, some move on after 10 years or downsize.

You cant have your cake and eat it, you want jobs to stay in the uk right?
 
Stanley Road said:
well low corporation tax is a good idea if you want to keep jobs in the uk, the dept I worked in at ibm ended up in Ireland due to their business incentives. NL offer it to businesses here for 10 years and that's why there are soooo many English speaking multinationals here, some move on after 10 years or downsize.

You cant have your cake and eat it, you want jobs to stay in the uk right?
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Why not go one further and bin the minimum wage? I'm sure the companies would come pouring in.
 
Regulus Arcturus Black said:
Surely this isn't what the UK people voted for? To "take back" a country and then let it get butt-fecked by giant cooperations? Everyone I know who voted leave hates that Starbucks, Amazon, Google etc get away with what the already do in the UK.

This is actually the saddest thing about the whole thing so far for me :(
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Mainly cos they were allowed to pay not tax, not 12%, none
 
It feels like the remain camp don't want to lose jobs to the continent

Don't want to attract businesses like they do on the continent with low taxes

What do you actually want?
 
Stanley Road said:
I think you'll find 12% for google is a much better deal for the UK than 0%

If they can be arsed to collect it of course
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What will happen if lets say Germany offers 12% corporate tax + full access to the single market?
 
devilish said:
Im asking you a question. What do you think will happen?
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It depends if the 12% is enough of a gain enough to offset a 300% salary overhead.

As i have said, i have lost more than one job where companies have moved for tax incentives and cost reduction.

I often wonder why every company doesnt move operations to eastern Europe. we have recently dine that and my last company too.

Would.a japanese registered company have full access to the single market if it moved there?
 
Stanley Road said:
It depends if the 12% is enough of a gain enough to offset a 300% salary overhead.

As i have said, i have lost more than one job where companies have moved for tax incentives and cost reduction.

I often wonder why every company doesnt move operations to eastern Europe. we have recently dine that and my last company too.

Would.a japanese registered company have full access to the single market if it moved there?
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I think its a matter of finding the right local professionals. Sure you can move labour intensive companies to Eastern Europe but can you do the same on lets say financial services? Would bankers be happy to swap the likes of Paris, Frankfurt or London to lets say Sofia or Bucharest? Hmm I doubt it. Under such conditions they might be swayed to other cities who can offer the same magic London does while still having unrestricted access to the single market (Paris?)

I cant answer about the latter because I honestly do not know. What I think is that a company need to commit itself to a certain amount of investment in a EU country (including people employed) to justify access to the single market + it need to commit itself to EU standards. I dont know the details though
 
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There are lots of factors to consider and if you move for low tax and lower salary bill then it makes perfect sense.

I dont think low corp tax in the uk is a bad thing, i said that 60 pages ago.

Maybe the govt doing feck all is better
 
Even if lowering the tax rate is a good idea, it's still something you could have done within the EU isn't it? Now you just have to do it to stay in the game? Hardly ideal.
 
Mozza said:
You don't seem to understand that countries competing to cut corporation only leads to one winner, the corporations. It's a beggar thy neighbour approach.
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Well we all need jobs right, no-one is against the way big corps act than me.

What do you want post Brexit, jobs or mad max uk? What do you want the govt to do post exit? Do you actually want the UK to do well?
 
Stanley Road said:
Well we all need jobs right, no-one is against the way big corps act than me.

What do you want post Brexit, jobs or mad max uk? What do you want the govt to do post exit? Do you actually want the UK to do well?
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You can achieve growth without competing on corporation tax. You might gain short term by cutting but everyone looses in the end
 
I find it odd*that the Brexiteers, who were very big on sovereignty a few months ago and especially when Obama offered his opinion on Brexit, have gone awfully quiet following Trump's opinion that Farage should be a British ambassador. Very odd indeed.

*Not really.
 
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