Nick 0208 Ldn
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That's the thing, I see no alleviating going on and no indication of anything in the near horizon.
Little of which has anything to do with a Brexit settlement yet to be negotiated.
@Nick 0208 Ldn
What do you make of the content of May’s leaked speeches? Are you in favor of giving some industries special subsidies/privileges when they stay (e.g. Nissan)?
If by leaked speeches you are referring to May's discussions with Goldman Sachs, no that didn't come as a surprise to me. I can't say that i agree with it all , however the remarks on security and policing echoed her years as Home Secretary.
I have no problem at all with state subsidies and attractive taxation arrangements in the short to medium term. Indeed, nor do i see why ministers should be embarrassed at the prospect. If we're going to make the best go of Brexit possible, the Government will have to counteract what uncertainty/costs there might be with other tools. Vehicle manufacture in the North East is both a success story and an impressive symbol, as well as supporting a significant portion of the local economy; in effect it will be an investment in the future.
The Mail, The Sun, UKIP and the right wing of the Tory party. The same hateful voices that led the Brexit campaign and imbued it with the sort of vile xenophobic tones that now seem to be acceptable in public. Lucky you if you've not heard it Nick although I'd suggest you're possibly choosing not to listen to anything that might make your hazy little post Brexit bubble seem less pleasant.
Maybe i just associated with less abusive company. I do find it remarkable that someone of your age and experience would continue to look at the world through such a polarised viewpoint, be it right/left or Remain/Leave. The idea that hate is the province of either in this country, simply doesn't seem to tally with the evidence.
I am also the sort who would make their displeasure known, if someone close to me was being verbally/physically assaulted. The chances are that i would recall such.
We're perfectly capable of discussing immigration in the UK, the problem lies in the fact that one side of the argument depend on lies and distortion of the true immigration figures in order to spread their fear and hatred
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There is no reasoned argument against our present levels of immigration other than racism,
Yes, that has been known to happen.
All signs point to us having to continue paying into the EU for a considerable time to clear our debts and possibly continue paying ad infinitum for access to the EU markets so this windfall trumpeted by Brexit looks like it will never happen. Promising to pay it to the NHS and even going as far as plastering that promise on the side of a bus was a mistake that even Farage admitted, the fact was always that the NHS was already fecked and this government were never going to do enough to fix it with or without the mythical £350M a week.
Whilst much of what you state here is conjecture at this point, the continued upward movement of our budgetary contributions is not (the potential return is not fixed at the current level). I am confident that thee will a significant saving, even if we do elect to maintain a lesser number of existing cooperative arrangements