My net salary in Ireland would be the exact same in the UK and Ireland is definitely not tax shy.
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Yes, it's called National Insurance , but again is zero on first £8000 a year so very low paid pay very little. But the rate is low compared to France.
But if you are single you will pay 2140€ between 15k and 25k.
Supposedly, yet for some reason I paid less than that on considerably more this year.
In theory it's supposed to ensure it is well funded, but hey..
You paid around 1400€, didn't you?
No, it was around 1900€, I forget the exact figure.
But National insurance is 22%
I am missing something. It can't be income tax on the total amount that you are talking about can it?
It's different from France. Basically in the UK the tax and NI all go into one big pot and the government decides what to spend it on
If you're self-employed you'd be paying 52% + the tax. If you're an employee then the employer pays the other 30%
That's not actually accurate it seems, I just checked. Apparently NI is set aside for welfare/social security needs, but any excess is loaned at very low rates to the government for other stuff.
I'm talking tripe here. If you are single and earn 25k per year you will pay around 2000€ and in general between 20k and 25k you will pay the equivalent of a month of income.
Supposed to be yes, used to be for NHS and pensions
I wouldn't trust them as far as I could kick them to be fair, its like road tax supposed to be used for road repairs, but they basically seem to do what they like with it.
Never had much faith in politicians of any party, the UK politicians have certainly exceeded my expectations this year, unfortunately I fear the lies will only get worse as they try to wriggle out of the mess they find themselves in.
Aye, I'm fully expecting an initial continuation of the 'blame the EU' strategy when we come away with a shitty deal, and then I'm curious to see who the next target to deflect the blame onto will be.
Really hope England spins off Scotland, let Sturgeon lie in the bed she wants.
Setting aside that England is only one of the parts of the UK, do you seriously want to follow up a massive contraction of the UK economy via Brexit with cutting off another substantial chunk of GDP by losing Scotland as well? Is the goal really to try and make the UK as small and insignificant as humanly possible?
I just want to get rid of what is financially a drain on the economy, the UK is better off without. Post brexit subsidising Scotland is even more painful for the UK.
We have no idea whether the UK would be better off without Scotland, because its not as simple as just 'taxes out/spending in'. In the process you deliver a huge hit to UK international prestige and standing (which in turn does horrible things to our potential ability to sign trade deals and international agreements that favour us) and you open up a directly competitive market right on our doorstep who will most certainly be competing against us in tourism and a number of other industries. Oh and which also damages our national defense by stopping us from having control over all coastal routes onto our landmass.
Also seriously when did British people become all about wanting to kick other people out so their own little lives might be a few quid better off? Scots fought and died alongside our troops for hundreds of years, forged an empire with us, contributed to every aspect of British science, politics and culture, yet no let's tell them to feck off so we can save a bob or two.
I'm starting to actually hate my own country recently.
They have the nukes as well.We have no idea whether the UK would be better off without Scotland, because its not as simple as just 'taxes out/spending in'. In the process you deliver a huge hit to UK international prestige and standing (which in turn does horrible things to our potential ability to sign trade deals and international agreements that favour us) and you open up a directly competitive market right on our doorstep who will most certainly be competing against us in tourism and a number of other industries. Oh and which also damages our national defense by stopping us from having control over all coastal routes onto our landmass.
Also seriously when did British people become all about wanting to kick other people out so their own little lives might be a few quid better off? Scots fought and died alongside our troops for hundreds of years, forged an empire with us, contributed to every aspect of British science, politics and culture, yet no let's tell them to feck off so we can save a bob or two.
I'm starting to actually hate my own country recently.
We have no idea whether the UK would be better off without Scotland, because its not as simple as just 'taxes out/spending in'. In the process you deliver a huge hit to UK international prestige and standing (which in turn does horrible things to our potential ability to sign trade deals and international agreements that favour us) and you open up a directly competitive market right on our doorstep who will most certainly be competing against us in tourism and a number of other industries. Oh and which also damages our national defense by stopping us from having control over all coastal routes onto our landmass.
Also seriously when did British people become all about wanting to kick other people out so their own little lives might be a few quid better off? Scots fought and died alongside our troops for hundreds of years, forged an empire with us, contributed to every aspect of British science, politics and culture, yet no let's tell them to feck off so we can save a bob or two.
I'm starting to actually hate my own country recently.
About the time the Scottish started slagging the English, so for as long as I can remember.
I seem to remember they voted to stay in the union didn't they?
Marginally, but only because the knew they were fKd if the oil price tanked.
When do the sick, disabled, mentally ill, pensioners and British, sorry English, born people living off the state get shipped out?
Guess that means you'd kick Northern Ireland out too? Basically England and (if they're lucky) Wales left. A not-so United Kingdom.
I'm not into a United kingdom tbh, just whatever makes sense for each country.
Do you think England would benefit from a break up of the UK?
Scotland is part of us and so no, the majority definitely don't want them to go independent. Sturgeon on the other hand, well I'd gladly see the back of her.We have no idea whether the UK would be better off without Scotland, because its not as simple as just 'taxes out/spending in'. In the process you deliver a huge hit to UK international prestige and standing (which in turn does horrible things to our potential ability to sign trade deals and international agreements that favour us) and you open up a directly competitive market right on our doorstep who will most certainly be competing against us in tourism and a number of other industries. Oh and which also damages our national defense by stopping us from having control over all coastal routes onto our landmass.
Also seriously when did British people become all about wanting to kick other people out so their own little lives might be a few quid better off? Scots fought and died alongside our troops for hundreds of years, forged an empire with us, contributed to every aspect of British science, politics and culture, yet no let's tell them to feck off so we can save a bob or two.
I'm starting to actually hate my own country recently.
We have no idea whether the UK would be better off without Scotland, because its not as simple as just 'taxes out/spending in'. In the process you deliver a huge hit to UK international prestige and standing (which in turn does horrible things to our potential ability to sign trade deals and international agreements that favour us) and you open up a directly competitive market right on our doorstep who will most certainly be competing against us in tourism and a number of other industries. Oh and which also damages our national defense by stopping us from having control over all coastal routes onto our landmass.
Also seriously when did British people become all about wanting to kick other people out so their own little lives might be a few quid better off? Scots fought and died alongside our troops for hundreds of years, forged an empire with us, contributed to every aspect of British science, politics and culture, yet no let's tell them to feck off so we can save a bob or two.
I'm starting to actually hate my own country recently.
Hang on a minute let me get this straight. The Scots can vote SNP in almost every seat in the general election and you say feck all about it but damn you hate your own country if anyone responds with feck em we should kick them out and this in the Brexit thread where the general trend is feck the UK if it wants to leave the EU.
Its getting quite strange in here.
So I see that Daniel Hannan has taken time away from going on Fox News, to talk about the NHS being a 60 year mistake, to call for someone to be removed for talking down a British institution. Obviously it's being lapped up by the Brexiteers because they just choose to ignore the former.
This post-facts world is great.
This post-facts world is great.
I'm curious; would you be in favour of London independence? Most of the country is a drain on us, and as Brexit shows there's a large discrepancy between the views of Londoners (and those in most cities) versus everybody else.
English rule has a way of doing things. They build the country’s economy around sectors which are directly related to England. It happened to my country too who was quickly turned from an autonomous region lead by the knights to a fortress island whose economy relied solely on the British army and navy. It’s ironic how whenever Britain was at war (apart from WW2), our citizens would prosper and when Britain was at peace we would go back to poverty. The WW1 made a lot of people (including my family) quite wealthy as the island was converted into a sort of hospital for soldiers, which in turn spent. However whenever the UK got a cold, we would end up starving as military cuts was the first thing, Westminster would consider to balance the books. I bet the same thing will happen to Scotland whose a bit of a cost center for Westminster.
From the UK perspective it was quite an efficient way to rule. It was almost impossible for us to fight for independence without seriously risking a big hit to our standard of living. My grandfather describes that time following independence as quite difficult and there were times when we had to rely on the help from our neighbours (Italy and Libya) to make ends meet. However there’s no denying that independence increased our standard of living radically in the long run. Malta is a prosperous country, with a great standard of living and a low unemployment rate. We’re also an EU member which gives us a say on what happens in Europe. The emigration rate had nosedived and people move to London, Sydney or the US out of wanting to experience something new rather then out of necessity. I wonder whether the Scots can say the same thing regarding London.
In my opinion the Scots should plan wisely first but ultimately go for it, especially if they can remain in the EU. Sure it will be tough at first, however considering that they are English speakers, who have similar rules to Englands, makes it easier for them to attract the financial services and the automobile industry to the North when compared to France or Germany. Their low population rate makes it possible for them to prosper even if they can attract even a 1/3 of all it. It will be more difficult to get independence once the UK (including Scotland) is outside of the EU.
In my opinion the EU should take the Scottish proposal seriously as long as Scotland commits itself to treat England, Wales and Northern Ireland as not part of the EU.
From the UK perspective it was quite an efficient way to rule. It was almost impossible for us to fight for independence without seriously risking a big hit to our standard of living. My grandfather describes that time following independence as quite difficult and there were times when we had to rely on the help from our neighbours (Italy and Libya) to make ends meet. However there’s no denying that independence increased our standard of living radically in the long run. Malta is a prosperous country, with a great standard of living and a low unemployment rate. We’re also an EU member which gives us a say on what happens in Europe. The emigration rate had nosedived and people move to London, Sydney or the US out of wanting to experience something new rather then out of necessity. I wonder whether the Scots can say the same thing regarding London.
In my opinion the Scots should plan wisely first but ultimately go for it, especially if they can remain in the EU. Sure it will be tough at first, however considering that they are English speakers, who have similar rules to Englands, makes it easier for them to attract the financial services and the automobile industry to the North when compared to France or Germany. Their low population rate makes it possible for them to prosper even if they can attract even a 1/3 of all it. It will be more difficult to get independence once the UK (including Scotland) is outside of the EU.
In my opinion the EU should take the Scottish proposal seriously as long as Scotland commits itself to treat England, Wales and Northern Ireland as not part of the EU.
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, that's harsh.Unless you think I'm mentally ill, which is always a possibility, none of the others apply.
I demand a refund of all the tax I paid
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