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The Breidiots can't win in their own court let alone get a good deal in Brussels. That's another thing that David Dumby Davies hasn't taken in consideration
 
I cant see MPs voting against their constituents tbh. Political suicide.
I can see SNP and Lib MP's on a matter of principal voting against the government - I can also see Labour probably having some massive infighting and comrade clusterfek managing to turn it into a massive own goal but them still finding a specific point they can disagree with the government enough to vote against it - not in principal but in practice... I can see the situation in Northern Ireland being one where they dont feel there is enough gsafeguarding in place and voting against - it come down to if enough of the London Conservative MP's will tow the party line - and remember brexit was not popular in London...

Some fudge will happen and it will get through - but it probably wont be as quick as the government would like... not sure it will lead to an election but of I was May I think thats the sensible call - given the state of labour she would walk a workable majority - it would give her a more credible mandate and it would allow her 5 years to sort it out as the timeline at the moment is tight and you will either get another election not long after brexit or if the article 50 negotiations take too long then possibly in the middle of it.
 
This sovereign parliament is dominated by Remainer MPs who haven't given a damn about the views of their constituents for years. I have no doubt, none whatsoever, they they will seek to harm our negotiating position and dilute Brexit. Every piece of delaying they enact will only worsen the uncertainty which exists. I don't even want to think about my Hargreaves Lansdown account at this moment. :(

I was unsure about the wisdom of general election before, but this ruling has prompted me to reconsider such.
But will MPs really vote against their constituents?
 
So . . .

Through his own ineptness and failure to control his party Cameron has set the country on the path to turbulent economic times as well as potentially reducing the power of the Royal Prerogative.

The biggest troll of all time?
Yeah and british people voted him in and created this farce we are seeing now
 
May is looking less like Thatcher and more like the evil witch of the West whose surrounded by her flying monkeys
 
I can see SNP and Lib MP's on a matter of principal voting against the government - I can also see Labour probably having some massive infighting and comrade clusterfek managing to turn it into a massive own goal but them still finding a specific point they can disagree with the government enough to vote against it - not in principal but in practice... I can see the situation in Northern Ireland being one where they dont feel there is enough gsafeguarding in place and voting against - it come down to if enough of the London Conservative MP's will tow the party line - and remember brexit was not popular in London...

Some fudge will happen and it will get through - but it probably wont be as quick as the government would like... not sure it will lead to an election but of I was May I think thats the sensible call - given the state of labour she would walk a workable majority - it would give her a more credible mandate and it would allow her 5 years to sort it out as the timeline at the moment is tight and you will either get another election not long after brexit or if the article 50 negotiations take too long then possibly in the middle of it.
I agree, think they will probably squeeze it past. Labour isnt united enough to get its act together and will probably be split. Bolded bit is so true.
 
The Breidiots can't win in their own court let alone get a good deal in Brussels. That's another thing that David Dumby Davies hasn't taken in consideration

I'm convinced that you are Juncker.
 
Agree. We should stick to facts and exposing people's hypocritical opinions in an adult way.
 
I find it slightly hilarious that considering how much effort Nick and his ilk have spent in here and elsewhere arguing that this is all about parliamentary sovereignty they're now incredulous that the very body they want to hand ultimate power to gets to have a say in the matter.

When it coems to EU related matters in particular, where is the historical basis to trust Remainer MPs?

Let us suppose that Yes had won the Indy referendum in 2014, and a court then told Scotland that unionist Westminster MPs had the power whittle down the outcome to a lesser status of autonomy, would that be received well?
 
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When it coems to EU related matters in particular, where is the historical basis to trust Remainer MP?

Let us suppose that Yes had won the Indy referendum in 2014, and a court then told Scotland that unionist Westminster MPs had the power whittle down the outcome to a lesser status of autonomy, would that be received well?

I wonder who voted that remainer MP
 
:lol:

Do you really believe that the EU will take these idiots seriously?

They don't take France seriously, so they are definitely not going to take the UK seriously after that. Also it confirms the suspicion that a lot of continentals had for a long time that the UK were purposely working against the EU and continental Europe in general.
 
This sovereign parliament is dominated by Remainer MPs who haven't given a damn about the views of their constituents for years. I have no doubt, none whatsoever, they they will seek to harm our negotiating position and dilute Brexit. Every piece of delaying they enact will only worsen the uncertainty which exists. I don't even want to think about my Hargreaves Lansdown account at this moment. :(

I was unsure about the wisdom of general election before, but this ruling has prompted me to reconsider such.
Are your investments in foreign currencies? Does that explain why you're not bothered about the fall in the pound/ effects of a hard Brexit? :lol:
 
When it coems to EU related matters in particular, where is the historical basis to trust Remainer MP?

Let us suppose that Yes had won the Indy referendum in 2014, and a court then told Scotland that unionist Westminster MPs had the power whittle down the outcome to a lesser status of autonomy, would that be received well?

Where's the historical basis to trust any MP? Why would they suddenly be trustworthy after Brexit?

Why in your analogy is the court a 'unionist' court and not a Scottish court? This wasn't the decision of a European Court (although the hilarious possibility of the government appealing to a European Court for permission to ignore Parliament is still tantalisingly on the cards) but a UK one.
 
They don't take France seriously, so they are definitely not going to take the UK seriously after that. Also it confirms the suspicion that a lot of continentals had for a long time that the UK were purposely working against the EU and continental Europe in general.

I think that they take France more seriously then these pack of amateurs who went kicking a hornet's nest while hoping that lovely puppies will come out instead. Look at them. Most of them have resigned, had turned against one another or have vanished in obscurity. Farage had even been spotted in the German embassy while working on his second passport while a remainer PM have given the task to clean the mess the leavers had created with their lies. The EU will leave them to flounder in darkness only to offer them a take it or leave it deal which will be heavily stacked towards the EU.

Regarding your last part. Its a known thing. Even the Brits admit that and joke about it. A unified and strong Europe was never in the UK best interest
 
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Kussenberg just suggested May should call an emergency vote ASAP on article 50
Probably a sensible shout before labour can agree a unified (or as unified as they can manage these days) stance
 
- "It's not about foreigners, it's about sovereignty"

- British judges make decision that Britain's elected parliament must vote on Article 50 in accordance with British law.





 
Have i used that phrase in here?


Is it worse than idiots or racists?

its undeniable that ignorance (including xenophobia) had been a driving force to Brexit. There again when I use Breidiots Im referring to the Brexit politicians who had been showing, time and time again, that they have no clue of how the world around them works. I mean how can you call someone who think that its possible to make a deal with individual EU countries or the other guy who think that's a jumbo deal with Turkey is possible when the latter country is in the custom's union?
 
I am convinced that the European commission, UKIP and Boris are all running accounts that post here.....

It does look like it. :lol:

But I think that the reality is that despite all the talks about EU citizens not caring about the EU, whether we are against or for the EU, we care a lot.
 
Would be hilarious if they the government had to refer this judgement to the European Courts
 
- "It's not about foreigners, it's about sovereignty"

- British judges make decision that Britain's elected parliament must vote on Article 50 in accordance with British law.








Only the British laws that suit them.
 
Would be hilarious if they the government had to refer this judgement to the European Courts

It would yet another case of remainers sorting the problems caused by irresponsible Brexiteers
 
- "It's not about foreigners, it's about sovereignty"

- British judges make decision that Britain's elected parliament must vote on Article 50 in accordance with British law.







These tweets are crazy, I don't know a single democracy that doesn't require the vote of the parliament when it comes to international treaties and most of the time the qualified majority is used.
 
- "It's not about foreigners, it's about sovereignty"

- British judges make decision that Britain's elected parliament must vote on Article 50 in accordance with British law.






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These tweets are crazy, I don't know a single democracy that doesn't require the vote of the parliament when it comes to international treaties and most of the time the qualified majority is used.

You're talking about people who thought possible to conclude trade deals with individual EU countries bypassing the EU commission completely. They don't have a clue of what they are doing
 
Are your investments in foreign currencies? Does that explain why you're not bothered about the fall in the pound/ effects of a hard Brexit? :lol:

The majority are British at this time. However i've stated since the outset that i was prepared to accept a personal economic cost in the pursuit of Breixit. Petty manoeuvring by MPs who would gladly bring down the entire Brexit process, now stands to exacerbate all of our difficulties.
 
There's something beautiful about all the people shouting about 'taking our country back' now complaining about your parliament's sovereignty.
 
How dare a democratically elected commons, who we vote for in order to make decisions and choices on our behalf, get oversight on the biggest constitutional change (on which no vote has taken place) to the country in recent times.
 
This is going so well :lol:

Cameron is probably hoping that people concentrate on the pig head fecking thing to distract from his more embarrassing screw ups.
 
After reading a couple of articles it just sounds like a timing issue bundled into this whole thing. Can't imagine and hope MPs wouldn't vote against Brexit now.