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How dare you! He's a foreign expert, clearly his advice should be thrown in the gutter.
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It's impossible, even a country like Russia who has most of the crucial raw material can't. And what do you with financial exports and the City in general?

It is not just impossible, but it would be utterly stupid. You’d destroy an incredible amount of wealth (probably cut the GDP in half). Modern western life-style is completely unthinkable without trade.



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Here is an essay that explains what "hard-brexit" could mean for the financial industry in the UK. It is quite technical, but should help to understand what discussion about financial passports is all about.
 
It is not just impossible, but it would be utterly stupid. You’d destroy an incredible amount of wealth (probably cut the GDP in half). Modern western life-style is completely unthinkable without trade.


I know, I had in mind an hypothetical world where it wouldn't lead to degrowth.
 
It will surely drop a lot more when the UK leaves the EU, but that won't be in March. The earliest the UK leaves the EU will be (within - supposedly) two years from the date Article 50 is triggered - 2019 onwards



Sorry my mistake...I should've said it'll nosedive again once article 50 is triggered.
 
I wouldn't be so sure

I could pick all sorts of goods that it would rule out consuming, but it literally amounts to someone saying:

I would like the UK to be a country of no tea (and coffee)

Possibly the most un-British statement imaginable
 
These other countries haven't been a part of a 600m+ people single market for 20+ years and had the vast majority of the imports and exports go through it, as well as their capital city be arguably the most important financial centre in the world as a result of it.

Both those assertions are untrue. The vast majority of Britain's trade is not with the EU, and London was one of the world's top financial centers long before Britain joined the EEC.

There's no need to go into meltdown simply because the pound has fallen. It's been overvalued for years, mainly due to the large amounts of money which flow into London because of its attractions as a global financial center, creating a huge asset bubble, in particular the gross inflation of the London property market.

Britain's real economy has suffered as a consequence of this, with a pound which may be as much as 20% above its natural level without those large financial flows. Exporters have had a tough time. Britain has been running a trade deficit for the past 15 years, and in the last few years the situation has deteriorated further, with the deficit rising to between 5% and 6%. It's past time the pound fell, and the present drop may be just what the doctor ordered.
 
I could pick all sorts of goods that it would rule out consuming, but it literally amounts to someone saying:

I would like the UK to be a country of no tea (and coffee)

Possibly the most un-British statement imaginable

I know, I was joking, but there have been some idiotic statements on this thread
 
Fundamentally disagree with this bit. The EU causing uncertainty about their 'project' is a huge reason for why Brexit happened. From a trading union to social union, political union and now talk of military union - who knows what's next? In fact, if they had been (are) just open and upfront about their aims, what they ultimately want to achieve (ala UN when it was setup), then they'd have far less angst their way IMHO.

Institutions evolve, I don't see why you expect that they'll know where they will be when the world changes around them
 
Both those assertions are untrue. The vast majority of Britain's trade is not with the EU, and London was one of the world's top financial centers long before Britain joined the EEC.

There's no need to go into meltdown simply because the pound has fallen. It's been overvalued for years, mainly due to the large amounts of money which flow into London because of its attractions as a global financial center, creating a huge asset bubble, in particular the gross inflation of the London property market.

Britain's real economy has suffered as a consequence of this, with a pound which may be as much as 20% above its natural level without those large financial flows. Exporters have had a tough time. Britain has been running a trade deficit for the past 15 years, and in the last few years the situation has deteriorated further, with the deficit rising to between 5% and 6%. It's past time the pound fell, and the present drop may be just what the doctor ordered.
:confused: 44% was with the Single Market last year. It's a far higher number than the next closest (USA: 14.8%)
 
Institutions evolve, I don't see why you expect that they'll know where they will be when the world changes around them
When as a British person by birth did I sign up to my country being in some social union where we are borderless and 'share culture' with an ever growing number of countries? Not that it's bad, but when did I sign up to it? I think the manner almost pushed a lot of people (including me) just over the edge IMHO.
 
When as a British person by birth did I sign up to my country being in some social union where we are borderless and 'share culture' with an ever growing number of countries? Not that it's bad, but when did I sign up to it? I think the manner almost pushed a lot of people (including me) just over the edge IMHO.

You are not borderless and no one asked you to share your culture, in fact the UK have the chance to not have to learn other countries language for example.
 
You are not borderless and no one asked you to share your culture, in fact the UK have the chance to not have to learn other countries language for example.
I feel we became borderless in so far as, an Australian nurse has to jump through hoops of fire to get to the UK, get an Austrian labourer can literally just walk in no-questions asked (even if criminally convicted!) because we 'are brothers and sisters' with them. :confused:
 
When as a British person by birth did I sign up to my country being in some social union where we are borderless and 'share culture' with an ever growing number of countries? Not that it's bad, but when did I sign up to it? I think the manner almost pushed a lot of people (including me) just over the edge IMHO.
Aren't you the one moving to Canada? Oh the irony!
 
How is it ironic, it's exactly what I want!

After over a year long process even due to be being married to a Canadian, and still had to jump through hoops of fire (medicals, police checks, etc) happily. I expect the same for my country.

There's also a large number of you who can move to Spain/France/any EU country. My understanding is that a part of your older population (the same folks that voted out) spend half the year abroad to escape the cold.

What your country "signed up" for was to allow everybody in the EU to have freedom of movement. You chose to move outside the EU, hence the hoops you had to jump through.

Why not stay in the UK and not "share culture" with Canadians by moving there?