I particularly liked the video "100 reasons to embrace Brexit"
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We should do the same with British people married to foreigners like for example Nigel Farage
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But the Brexit experts in the government all say it'll be fine. Of course, most of them have enough wealth and income that they can disregard inflation.
Well as said before, the people who are going to be hit the hardest by this will probably be the ones who actually voted for it.
So I'm not a total bullshitter?
Seems not.
Heard the joke about - how do you transform a £30000 BMW into a £40000 BMW, answer - vote leave
People wouldn't accept strengthening our borders if it meant keeping the border between NI and the Republic soft? Think you'd be surprised.
In the piece it says it only applies to people who aren't from the EU? Not sure what Polish people have to do with it.
So are we still at the point where everyone can agree there'll be a short to mid term time of turbulence, but no one knows as to what benefit that'll bring?
I've still, to this very moment, not heard a single good reason as to why this was ever a risk worth taking.
I've still, to this very moment, not heard a single good reason as to why this was ever a risk worth taking.
How much has David Davis been paid to come out of two separate statements now having said absolutely feck all?
But wait, the EU will not impose tariffs over the EU because they will be the one getting hurt. The UK is the 5th biggest economy in the world and it will soon rule the waves again
I wonder how many will remember the glory of 'taking control' once their standard of living plummets and they struggle to make ends meet
The UK being the 5th biggest economy doesn't mean much to a fair few places in the UK that voted to Leave, as they were already struggling a great deal. Essentially voting to Leave because things can't get any worse than they are now, although sadly it seems it will.
I shiver at the thought of what will happen to this great country if the standard of living nosedive. Scotland, Northern Ireland and Gibraltar will be livid, the working class will feel duped and the government wont have the EU to blame this time round. Its look more evident that a big chunk of the Tory Government didn't even want Brexit in the first place and rode the wave to get Cameron out. Meanwhile Farage played the British like a violin by earning ridiculous money and (pension) despite having the education of a sandwich maker. Its a shame that if Britain goes to shit, he'll probably be in Munich drinking German beer and enjoying the benefits of his dual passport. Oh well
All the warnings that were given were treated as scaremongering, people believed what they wanted to believe and chose to ignore what they didn't want to hear and a lot of them still believe in that promised land although none of them have given any indication of what that promised land is supposed to look like
It looks like Somalia paul
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Irish ministers seem to be in line with the plan to take on the UK's immigration checks. Seems like a good idea to me given the alternatives....
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...eland-is-ridiculous-says-irish-mep-matt-carty
Pretty funny if the UK hands off control of its border that quickly though.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...eland-is-ridiculous-says-irish-mep-matt-carty
Pretty funny if the UK hands off control of its border that quickly though.
How does that affect the free movement of EU immigrants who will still be allowed into Ireland and thus into Northern Ireland?
"The joint Anglo-Irish border procedures will not be able to stem the arrival of EU nationals, as they will retain the right to free movement to live and work in the Irish Republic. However, this point is seen as moot: officials believe few EU citizens will want to come and work illegally in the UK after Brexit. “The numbers would be very small,” said one diplomatic source familiar with Brexit discussions."
From the Guardian article I posted on the last page.
Anyone planning to move to the eu zone in light of the vote?
I've read the article three times now and thought I'd missed something but I can't see what you have quoted.
In any case the Irish are not going to carry out any more checks than they currently do.
The Irish finance minister and the deputy leader of our main government party have already indicated support for the idea.
In fact, just an hour ago:
It wouldn't be popular but a hard border is pretty much unacceptable, so....
We really should but I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't. The focus would be on doing whatever it takes to avoid the alternative.
We also want to avoid the alternative, we will pay
"The prime minister, Theresa May, is facing growing pressure to allow MPs a vote on Brexit and the government is also fighting a legal challenge over the use of royal prerogative to invoke article 50, which triggers the process of leaving the EU."
Am I understanding this correctly, there currently is no clarity whether the PM legally has the authority to trigger article 50? What's this contest between the PM and parliament all about? I always thought it's the parliament who always has the last say, no?!
Am I understanding this correctly, there currently is no clarity whether the PM legally has the authority to trigger article 50? What's this contest between the PM and parliament all about? I always thought it's the parliament who always has the last say, no?!
Royal prerogative are the key words
That's how it used to be but now the UK is taking control.
Rather, it is the precedent of referenda in the UK to honour the spirit and outcome of the vote.
One of the few statements that both sides actually agreed upon.
The outcome of the vote was heavily influenced with the Leaver's promise thrashing a heavily one sided deal with the EU and which would allow the UK to be able to invest 350m a week in the NHS. Is it that outrageous for the parliament to make sure that the government fullfills those promises?
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This Government did not make those pledges.
Both sides put out misleading statements so far as i can gather, yet those of Remain do not appear weigh heavily with you. A friend of mine was on the verge of voting to stay in the EU, partly due to the apocalyptic predictions being made about the economy (imminent recession and the flight of companies leading to job losses this year).
Regarding the border between Ireland and the UK, do not see this working at all.
Borders are two way, not just to protect the Brits from the outside world but also to protect the outside world from the Brits.
Once British people are in Ireland they are in the EU.
Even more unclear is the movement of goods. Who is going to deal with the customs formalities, payable of duties, VAT of goods that cross the border.
Little thought in another Brexit idea.
Borders are two way, not just to protect the Brits from the outside world but also to protect the outside world from the Brits.
Once British people are in Ireland they are in the EU.
Even more unclear is the movement of goods. Who is going to deal with the customs formalities, payable of duties, VAT of goods that cross the border.
Little thought in another Brexit idea.
Think it's about time to wake up and smell the coffee, and the UK haven't left yet or even close to it
The leave camp did. Should the government be allowed to crush the economy to the ground because the leaver camp mislead people in voting for Brexit? I don't remember Brexit being a choice between 'losing control by staying in the EU' and committing economical harakiri. People were promised a better life through Brexit and not a worse one.
I've seen this a few times; now apparently it was just random people campaigning for Brexit whom a sector of the British people were gullible enough to believe
Nick, you're a smart guy. Do you genuinely believe that leaving the single market will not result in certain companies leaving the UK, job losses, and a weakened economy? I don't see any rationale argument for why that wouldn't happen.
Pound continues to nosedive €1.1056/£1
Crush the economy into the ground? Are you now refuting the predictions of those experts who suited your purpose just a half year ago? Please do quit the dramatising.
We do now stand a chance of building something better than the EU is presently destined to become. It shan't be realised in only five months however.
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What is this thing that is going to better , we're still waiting to find out, how does it work. You do realise what is happening at this moment, exactly what was predicted by some of us.