So could Boris, his grandmother was born in Versailles and great-grandmother in Paris. Farage with his German passport, Jim Ratcliffe living it up in Monaco . You could laugh until you cry.
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So could Boris, his grandmother was born in Versailles and great-grandmother in Paris. Farage with his German passport, Jim Ratcliffe living it up in Monaco . You could laugh until you cry.
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To be fair by rule, he has a right to the french nationality and when he has it, his son will too.
I'm not convinced by that Versailles, he looks like a farmer from the Tarn or the Aude.
True, probably not the palais, probably as the gardener or the surrounding countryside.
I see Larry Elliott is still proudly flying the Lexit flag in the Guardian today then.
I just find the timing hilarious
You don't believe in the huge potential?
To be fair to his father, he voted remain.
All of which explains why Thatcher was considering leaving the EU. She no doubt considered that the trade element might have worked, but with every increasing integration on the horizon, then from her point of view, the 'politics' wouldn't. Also there is no doubting this aspect spilled over into the Brexit vote as well. Historically the UK may, (or may not) have a 'special relationship' with the US, but it has never even imagined that kind of relationship with the EU as such. The UK didn't join the Euro-zone, it negotiated various opt outs and demanded rebates, and was generally seen as being the 'awkward squad' by many in the EU.
Ironically had Thatcher followed her impulse and gone for a referendum on leaving the EU, with her recommending that based on either Maastricht and/or Lisbon Treaties we should leave, then she would probably have lost it; because the general level of interest in leaving in the UK at that time was not much above 20-30%, much the same as when the original vote was taken in the mid seventies. Two of the foremost Europhiles in the cabinet, Heseltine and Clarke won their battle (as they saw it to stay in the EU) by managing to oust Thatcher, hence preventing a referendum that finally came some twenty years or so later. Unfortunately the remainers thought they were facing the same situation... and well, the rest is history!
Yes but I think the father was actually pro-EU , in a few months time Boris's application will surely be on its way.
I’ve never fully understood the left wing argument for Brexit, other than the desire for massive industrial subsidies, but then that would inevitably attract tariffs. I can just about understand the Brexit argument from a right wing perspective, but I think the crusty old 1970s leftists are just stuck in the past.
I'll be honest I don't have a clue about what you are talking about. In the late 70s-early 80s, the time where France sold exocets to Argentina, the EU wasn't a thing and the UK were at the heart of the creation of the Single European Act which was signed in 1986. You seem to have your own version of history.
They certainly are. And in many respects.
They are and they manufacture some excellent products, especially the Dassault Rafale. And they did that on their own, unlike the Eurofighter Typhoon which is a competitor.
Interestingly, when David Cameron was PM (boo), he was extremely keen on a defence partnership with France. And for good reasons. Similar defence capabilities, geography and similar defence policies. Nothing to do with brexit. More to do with collaboration within NATO. But that seems to have cooled which is a shame.
I wanted to talk about it a few weeks ago because the british press mentioned several times that the UK were waiting for the US to approve the financing of new generation SLBMs and from a french standpoint it's a weird idea particularly when this year France tested its own new missiles without having to wait for anyone else to approve it and started the developments of their successors.
At the time my thinking was why the UK can't do the same thing, why do they want to rely that much on the US and wouldn't it be a better idea to partner with France, now the later is complicated because France is notoriously difficult as a partner when it comes to engineering with a "my way or the highway" type of mentality so the UK aren't the problem in a potential partnership.
Ever since the start of the Battle of Trafalgar, Thatcher was considering leaving the EU since France was an untrustworthy partner!
And that is what I respect about the French. When they decide to do something, they go for it whatever the difficulty.
There was much discussion regarding the 2 new UK Aircraft Carriers. The talk was about interoperability with France.
But. The UK changed its mind and went for the Lockheed Martin F35B which has short/vertical take off. The Navy Rafale uses catapult take off.
I was fortunate enough to have worked on the Olympus 593 engines for Concorde with engineers from SNECMA. That aircraft was outstandingly brilliant and an incredible technical achievement between Britain and France. And they were built in my home city of Bristol as well of course as Toulouse which had the pleasure of visiting.
As previously mentioned, I have worked very closely with aerospace engineers from Germany, Italy and Spain as well as France. So I appreciate what Europe at its best can achieve.
The Concorde is truly a marvelous achievement of cooperation which sadly I can't see being repeated in such a scale anytime soon. But its awesome that you have taken part in it!
Thank you.
The most incredible thing was that it had never been done before, or after but that it was achieved with almost no computers. All drawn by hand with pencils and slide rules by some seriously clever people.
Just read that- it's a dreadful argument that failed to elucidate any of the perceived benefits (barring fruit pickers being paid more) and even spouts the Tory line on Brits getting the vaccine first.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...sfree/2020/dec/31/the-left-brexit-economic-uk
Yes I have gathered that!
You'd laugh if it wasn't so tragic.
Happy New Year from France.
Fare thee well old GB , (NI is still with us).
Presume Brexiters knew they were officially leaving the transition period at 23.00 UK time.
Welcome to reality.
Fare thee well old GB , (NI is still with us).
Presume Brexiters knew they were officially leaving the transition period at 23.00 UK time.
Welcome to reality.
So glad I live in Canada.
Cheerio EU. It's been fun.
It's all ogre now
Farewell UK, hope you come back soon. Without tories though
I am sure you will be better off than what remainers say and worse off than what brexiteers say.
I am sure you will be better off than what remainers say and worse off than what brexiteers say.
God another reason why tonight sucks, well done UK, you’ve solved the problem the EU was creating which was.. errm.. but well at least we can now errrm.
Happy brexit day!
So can we close this thread now?
Open the rejoin thread!
So long UK and thanks for all the fish!
What a sensible, and nice, post to end the year on, thank you.
Taste that sovereignty!!!
Found this speech and the analysis very on point.
Happy Independence Day neighbours!
They may take our lives but they'll never take our blue passports.
Today's edition of let's laugh at Brexiteers...
I've absolutely no sympathy for anyone who voted leave and then wants to create Little England abroad. They'll need to get used to Spanish Sky, which will be very different. We spend a lot of time watching American crime dramas, as they're one of the things that Sky Italia shows.
Here's another example of a new "Brexit benefit" - I don't know how many of these people voted for leave, but Kent was about 60% in favour. Quite honestly, it would have been better for these people to have their homes put under a compulsory purchase order, as they'll never sell them now.
Full schadenfreude here: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/01/residents-furious-brexit-lorry-park-kent-village
Here's another example of a new "Brexit benefit" - I don't know how many of these people voted for leave, but Kent was about 60% in favour. Quite honestly, it would have been better for these people to have their homes put under a compulsory purchase order, as they'll never sell them now.
Full schadenfreude here: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/01/residents-furious-brexit-lorry-park-kent-village
feck, so SkyGo won't work in the EU now?! Take back control.