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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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Farage seems to be satisfied with the deal. Is that a clue that it’s a good one for Brexiteers or are they just trying a con to make out it’s one?

He is not in any position to know the details of the deal yet. He is speaking from an position without knowing the details. He just coming out with some bluster to try sound like he won an victory from an PR perspective.
 
Got to say I'm a bit confused by this. Has the docs been released yet? As if this is non tariff, being allowed full access to the EU market while being able to do our own trade deals.. Isn't that what the leave campaign said we'd get?

No it's not released yet and still has to be agreed by the UK and EU parliaments but being outside the Custom's Union already meant that the UK can negotiate their own agreements which was not part of this agreement but in the Withdrawal Agreement.from January 2020
 
Yes I think you can quite easily say that any deal is better than no deal. You don’t need to see the details of it. Saying both sides got an equally good deal without seeing the details is just make believe. It is normal people do that after, use the information that supports their argument as “evidence” and use the information that refutes their argument as “spin”. It’s just a particularly striking example that people explicitly do that before they have even seen the details. They know the position they are going to take before it is even possible to take that position. The facts don’t dictate that position, they just want that to be true, so it must be true.

there will always people who jump up and down and cheer a result, without knowing the detail. Likewise all those who ridicule the same people, based purely on their pre-determined bias/ perspective/ political viewpoint.

we have seen this on the last couple of pages in this thread.
 
What better way to spend a lockdown Christmas Day than reading 2,000 pages of a technical international trade agreement. Who's with me?
 
No it's not released yet and still has to be agreed by the UK and EU parliaments but being outside the Custom's Union already meant that the UK can negotiate their own agreements which was not part of this agreement but in the Withdrawal Agreement.from January 2020
I get that but still being giving non tariff access to trade on top has surprised me. Still best wait to see the document which as I'm now pissed on cider and rum won't be in my evening plans.
 
I think Christmas Eve should be renamed to Brexit Eve in celebration of this great achievement. Or actually maybe BJ Day. You'll be sucking off the EU to get back in within a few years anyway so it's quite fitting.
 
I get that but still being giving non tariff access to trade on top has surprised me. Still best wait to see the document which as I'm now pissed on cider and rum won't be in my evening plans.
The EU has a significant trade surplus with the UK. Tariff and quota free trade is in their interest.
 
That's not bad then, sucks about the EHIC though.

Yeah, no travel (except Netherlands I think). That's a seperate issue, but we really should make COVID tests mandatory for exit and entry
Covid aside, from Jan 1st Brits are third-party nationals. You also have to make sure your passport is valid for at least 6 months, and the duty-free shopping rules will change, of course!
 
The EU has a significant trade surplus with the UK. Tariff and quota free trade is in their interest.
Again I understand this. I'm just surprised is all. It's sounding like that whole have your cake and eat it thing they were parping on about.
 
I get that but still being giving non tariff access to trade on top has surprised me. Still best wait to see the document which as I'm now pissed on cider and rum won't be in my evening plans.

Non tariff if the UK are good boys seems to be the idea. Have to wait until after Xmas before going into details I think.
 
I get that but still being giving non tariff access to trade on top has surprised me. Still best wait to see the document which as I'm now pissed on cider and rum won't be in my evening plans.

It was a free trade agreement negotiation so it shouldn't be a surprise that there are no tariffs, the issue was the custom checks and the existence of a border.

Edit: For me as long as the deal doesn't create issues for Ireland and Gibraltar, the rest is manageable, it's just money.
 
Again I understand this. I'm just surprised is all. It's sounding like that whole have your cake and eat it thing they were parping on about.
Only a trade surplus if you don’t include services I believe? Might be wrong though.
 
Great. I look forward to the spike in racially and religiously aggravated hate crimes to beat the one recorded after the referendum result.
 
The Sun crowing about the pound rising today. Yes of course that means Brexit was great for sterling...all the more to spend on the health insurance you need now.
All these shitrags crowing about Brexit still can't find anything more positive than something 'will cost more or less the same'.

How will a deal affect holidays?
Aside from getting a better exchange rate for your travel money, Brexit will have an impact on your holiday, particularly for travel insurance.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/1356...es-pound-holidays-food-prices-interest-rates/
 
Pretty predictably, better than no deal but much worse than EU membership (unless you have purely ideological reasons for not wanting the latter).

Wonder what the 90+ day visa process will be like?

Surely people will use companies like action-visas? I suppose that there is an equivalent in the UK.
 
Trivial question but does anyone know if we can still use our phone data in Europe? Google maps has been a god send to me when i travel.
 
Pretty predictably, better than no deal but much worse than EU membership (unless you have purely ideological reasons for not wanting the latter).

Wonder what the 90+ day visa process will be like?

The Trade in services looks ominous - has Boris sold out the City for few fish? Will have to see the details.

Standard travel will be limited to 90 days out of 180 and not consecutive 90 days either, for longer with a visa there must be a work reason I presume, but details are going to be important.
 
Trivial question but does anyone know if we can still use our phone data in Europe? Google maps has been a god send to me when i travel.
Apparently most major networks aren't bringing back roaming charges. Hope it stays that way.
 


What a monumental and complete asswipe he is.

I hope to see the day we rejoin.

From a personal point of view, I'm delighted though. Not just getting a deal when no deal started to look thr most likely recently. But hopefully this and, to some extent, the end of brexit as the foremost domestic policy issue, will allow some space to let the people heal. And to hopefully temper the horrible comments that some of our idiot politicians have been making about other European countries and the EU in the past 5 years.
 
The Trade in services looks ominous - has Boris sold out the City for few fish? Will have to see the details.
I don't think the deal will have very much at all on financial services in it. The EU has been firm that equivalence decisions for financial services will be unilateral on both sides.
 
The Sun crowing about the pound rising today. Yes of course that means Brexit was great for sterling...all the more to spend on the health insurance you need now.
All these shitrags crowing about Brexit still can't find anything more positive than something 'will cost more or less the same'.

How will a deal affect holidays?
Aside from getting a better exchange rate for your travel money, Brexit will have an impact on your holiday, particularly for travel insurance.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/1356...es-pound-holidays-food-prices-interest-rates/

It actually dropped 0.50 after it was announced having climbed in expectancy earlier in the day.
 
Interesting on healthcare from the UK summary:
118. In addition, the Protocol will ensure necessary healthcare provisions – akin to those provided by the European Health Insurance Card (EHIC) scheme – continue. This means individuals who are temporarily staying in another country, for example a UK national who is in an EU Member State for a holiday, will have their necessary healthcare needs met for the period of their stay.
Will need to see the details on that one, but sounds potentially promising.