tombombadil
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That indeed looks horrifying.This is an interesting read. All the amoral major players are involved.
https://bylinetimes.com/2019/11/09/...britain-what-johnson-doesnt-want-you-to-know/
That indeed looks horrifying.This is an interesting read. All the amoral major players are involved.
https://bylinetimes.com/2019/11/09/...britain-what-johnson-doesnt-want-you-to-know/
Maybe we can go to India together this time?So, a no-deal Brexit now looks likely.
The UK has given up a whole raft of actual, concrete benefits within the EU - freedom of travel and work, trade benefits, shared policing intelligence etc etc etc - for a single abstract benefit called "sovereignty" which in practice is a ghost.
Congratulations to all the stupid people who voted for Brexit, sold on the basis of lies.
The UK will now start to break up, starting with Scotland, who will re-join the EU within 10-15 years.
Isn't fresh food going to be the biggest problem?Serious question though, is anyone going to be stock piling with brexit in mind? If so what?
Yeah that’s true, am I right in saying we import a lot of our toilet paper? Although I don’t want to be part of that problemIsn't fresh food going to be the biggest problem?
It's quite to stockpile, I suppose you could freeze your fruit and veg.
We'll be pickling our veg again, just like the good ol' days.
Everyone in the UK will be soiling their underwear insteadYeah that’s true, am I right in saying we import a lot of our toilet paper? Although I don’t want to be part of that problem
Russia basically. Destabilising the US and breaking up the EU have been Russian objectives for ages. Look around, what do you see happening? It's so corrupt Boris's 'Russia Report' was instructed specifically NOT to investigate Russian interference! There is a tsunami of criminality going on right now that we won't hear about for another generation.
Russia has nothing to do with this. England's policy of destabilising a unified Europe has been existing since Henry Tudor left the RCC so he can crown any courtesan he wanted. King Henry came to a conclusion that a destabilised Europe would be too busy killing one another to organize a crusade to bring England back to the fold. That's been England and later on the UK's policy for centuries. It's even been joked about on yes minister.
Russia has spent years exacerbating internal divisions in the West. They have a lot to do with it. Follow the money.
Did it crossed your mind that by helping financing this suicide called Brexit, Russia was actually trying to destabilise the UK instead? The UK is after all the US chihuahua, its very vocal against Russia and its historical hatred towards the EU + its innate love towards the capitalist party makes it an easy target.
After Brexit most of Europe will still be in NATO and the US will find a new EU country to turn into its darling and have it push its agenda. The only country who will be isolated between two juggernauts will be......
No, the "border" is in the Irish Sea, but I don't think the Brexiters have realised it, so keep it quiet.
Did it crossed your mind that by helping financing this suicide called Brexit, Russia was actually trying to destabilise the UK instead? ...
Sounds like a 1920s gangster speaking with a transatlantic accentThey are probably more interested in changing the name to the 'Taking Back Control Sea'
Salt and vinegar ....to go with all the fish we‘ll be eatingSerious question though, is anyone going to be stock piling with brexit in mind? If so what?
Is it ok to call them all a bunch of thick cnuts yet?
That quote from Stewart really, really makes me cross.That's been OK for quite some time.
about a year ago I thinkWhen did no deal start being dressed up as 'an Australian-style deal'?
Looks like Boris attempting to go around Barnier and negotiate directly with Macron and Merkel has been well and truly shut down.
When did no deal start being dressed up as 'an Australian-style deal'?
When did no deal start being dressed up as 'an Australian-style deal'?
about a year ago I think
started to be used more when they decided not to extend the transition
Now its pretty much obligatory for any government spokesperson
Makes sense. Just feel like I've heard the phrase more in the last week or so than I have in the past four years.When it became inevitable. "No deal" doesn't sound like policy, it sounds like failure.
An "Australian style deal" makes it sound like we can look forward to sunny weather and BBQs for years to come, when actually what we'll be doing is toasting rats over a barrel bin fire as we huddle together for warmth in the ruins of what used to be our country. Well done, Boris ('well done' is also how I'll be having my rats cooked, please).
It is , of course , your prerogative to ignore all the warnings.
https://www.voanews.com/europe/merkel-russia-meddling-countries-eu-aspirations
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/06/...sian-disinformation-propaganda-elections.html
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/guy-verhofstadt-eu-russia-meddling-123503059.html
Did it cross your mind that Russia was trying to both destabilise the UK and shrink down the EU? And they succeeded in both aims.
“Shit. Your. Pants” new Tory slogan amidst Toilet roll shortagesEveryone in the UK will be soiling their underwear instead
In a way, I do understand why they would phrase it this way. 'No deal' sounds like you're heading into the great unknown, 'Australia-type deal' sounds like you're getting into a known situation. And it's true in that sense: the EU wouldn't be the only place on earth with which the UK has to trade on WHO terms, so it's not like everyone is completely in the dark as to what a 'no deal' situation means. I think it makes sense that a government would want to build that aspect into its messaging.Makes sense. Just feel like I've heard the phrase more in the last week or so than I have in the past four years.
I guess the Australia deal sounds better than the North Korea deal.
In a way, I do understand why they would phrase it this way. 'No deal' sounds like you're heading into the great unknown, 'Australia-type deal' sounds like you're getting into a known situation. And it's true in that sense: the EU wouldn't be the only place on earth with which the UK has to trade on WHO terms, so it's not like everyone is completely in the dark as to what a 'no deal' situation means. I think it makes sense that a government would want to build that aspect into its messaging.
But yeah, of course, the way it's being done now also suggests that everything is fine and under control, completely downplaying the huge economic disadvantages of a no-deal situation, the enormous change it situation would bring about, and the UK's level of unpreparedness for that change. There's spin and then there's full-on bullshitting.
I can't believe Boris Johnson, who has been in the public eye for over 2 decades and who only last year prorogued parliament which was deemed unlawful by the Supreme Court, is the way he is. How many times have you seen our free press and media factcheck his claims and lies during and after the election? Too many people got their wallet inspectedIt's almost like he's a serial bullshitter! Who knew?
As in Empire 2.0? Surely no-one will fall for thatI really think that it's a narrative built around the CANZUK idea, it's not much about the fact that "No deal" sounds terrible but that they are actively targeting a certain demographic and selling the dream of an Anglosphere led by the UK.