Cheers lads
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Cheers lads
The UK has so many surprises to look forward to and you can thank the Brexiters who insisted they knew what they voted for, so they can take full responsibility.
The best part are answers like these:
Yet these people felt competent enough to say all sorts of stuff about the E.U.
I can’t believe we're still pressing on with this with what’s happening in the world right now!
You’re surprised? It’s their number 1 priority as a lot of them are financially invested in making it happen
Oh, I don’t doubt that. They need to get their priorities right.
That's the problem, they have, and they prioritise making a shed load of money from a no deal brexit while the countries economy crumbles. Disaster capitalism at its finest.
A worthy (and chilling) explanation of what Brexit will do to the UK economy after December.
Your point?
What do you mean?
You posted a link. Why? What was your take?
I guess it's interesting that Unilever have decided to proceed with the move to become solely a UK company, and want to force it through ahead of the end of the transition period, while the outcome of the Brexit talks are uncertain. The Netherlands has been strongly opposed to the move, but Unilever's lawyers have decided that the Dutch 'exit tax' threat is illegal under EU law.
More broadly, the FT have been doing some good coverage in the last few weeks on how businesses in both the EU and the UK are planning and adapting to the end of the transition period. I've shared a few links.
All perfectly understandable, assuming you are prepared to listen with an open mind.
So. For those who voted to leave, please remind us why leaving the EU is such a wonderful idea...
Brexiters won't listen to him, he actually sounds like he knows what he's talking about.
Not long to go now, if the UK starts running out of food, the Brexiters will have a lot of humble pie to eat. Or proof is in the pudding.
I have no sympathy for anyone who voted Brexit but do feel really very sympathetic towards you and your fellow remainers who are being dragged into this nightmare by a bunch of lunatics.
Another story for the BBC to ignore...
Boris Johnson faces Brexit bill defeat at pivotal moment
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brex...at-pivotal-moment/ar-BB1ashKZ?ocid=BingHPCTop
Boris Johnson faces Brexit bill defeat at pivotal moment
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brex...at-pivotal-moment/ar-BB1ashKZ?ocid=BingHPCTop
And they'e been unexpectedly assisted by the pandemic, which has made most people completely lose interest in Brexit.
True, to a degree.
But with the parliamentary majority these nut jobs have, it was only going to go one way.
I too have no sympathy with those who voted to leave the EU. But I do acknowledge the fact that the whole country was lied to. And lots of people were taken in by those lies.
Nevertheless, the onus was on everyone who cast their vote to at least try to understand the issues.
Like many countries, we are focusing on the pandemic and I see that France is experiencing even higher numbers than here.
But I keep trying to remind people that a no deal outcome is going to damage our fragile economy far more than the pandemic. And that unlike the pandemic, Brexit is completely self inflicted.
For sure the country was lied too but I get the impression that even now, all this time later, the same people still believe the lies and only when reality strikes will they understand, they probably won't admit to their gullibility though. As I've said right from the beginning, ignorance is no excuse, the same as it is no excuse in law.
The pandemic is seriously affecting countries, we're probably going into a four week lockdown this evening and yes Brexit will be far more serious and have a far longer lasting effect on the UK economy.
The people who have conned the UK into this must be held to account.
Hopefully the USA can get rid of Trump very soon. The UK can't get rid of this insanity for a very long time.
Not very important in the grand scheme of things but this really sums up the extent of the ignorance and wishful thinking that seems to be pervasive in the Uk government when it comes to Brexit.
It exposes the lies the government is trying to con the electorate with. What must be really scary is that the clueless and moronic Liz Truss is in charge.
Counties should be queuing up to do trade deals with the UK. Cos there's a good chance the UK government won't have a clue what they're signing.
The problem is that this level of incompetence is not unusual.
It is now the norm.
Not sure what conclusions can be drawn from Unilever's actions though. They are fairly unique in having two main offices in two different countries, and their plans to reduce it to one HQ in one country predate Brexit.
And in a lots of governments in the world, not exclusive in the UK, so if UK would not know what they are signing, lots of other "negotiators" neither
Stuff like this is head bangingly frustrating.
I'm not really sure either if they genuinely believe this stuff they're writing/ saying or whether they're just putting on a facade and know they're blatantly lying.
Frankly, I'm not sure which is more depressing or worrying either.
More smoke and mirrors from the brilliant Liz Truss - just don't look too closely at the details.
If you don't look closely at the details then :
"It also guarantees continued market access for UK exporters, who together sold £815m in goods and services to Kenya last year. "
Wow!
If you don't look closely at the details then :
"It also guarantees continued market access for UK exporters, who together sold £815m in goods and services to Kenya last year. "
Wow!
Hopefully the beginning of the end of Brexit.
Pretty reputable source as well, looks like some sense might prevail on access to the single market. Customs union issues is going to be absolute bedlam come the New Year if it's not addressed quickly.
Wonder how much a Biden presidency will affect this?
Mainly the good Friday agreement, apparently Boris might consider a deal if Biden wins.
What is this, three now?
How is this better for y’all than it was before?
If it’s not a marked improvement on how it was, does this all come down to racism in the end?
When has it been anything other than sticking it to "the others"?
It's a symptom that is not unique to the UK. It's happening around the world. Nationalism, nativism, racism is on the rise. Demagogues everywhere are gaining access to powerful manipulation tools in social media and traditional news to manipulate entire countries to the right and gain power.
I’ve always felt that it was mostly racism, but there could have been a financial incentive too. I’m also in America & haven’t followed the machinations too closely until recently.
Does this apparent agreement in its current framework make the economic condition of dealing with the EU better than it was while the UK was in the EU? If not, how so?
I'm not an expert. But one way to summarize it would be:-
Before, UK was in the privileged position of have having a seat on the EU voting table without having to conform to the full set of EU requirements. Just some.
Now, UK will be in the "privileged" position of having no seat on the EU voting table and having to conform to those same set of EU requirements as before any way if they want to maintain trade with the EU.
Of course, in reality, it gets more complicated from there. There are many other problems, like fisheries, hard/soft borders, etc etc. In a sense, Brexit never existed. The people voted for something that never existed. The should have been forced to vote for Brexit with hard borders and non shared fisheries and xxx, Brexit with soft borders and non shared fisheries and xxx, etc. In which case, UK would have remained in the EU. It's farcical.
And this is costing lots of money on both sides. All for what? To stick it to "The Others", of course. I suspect there is more going on behind this, but that is my assumption and I am trying to discipline myself from passing assumption off as fact.