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I genuinely don’t think Trump wanted to be president or thought that he could be. I think it was a vanity project, so that he could say he ran for president, much like when Katie Price ran as an MP. It all went wrong when he got the nomination, and at that point had to just carry on.
He was as shocked as all of us were that he won. His lasting legacy won’t be too far off of what Mr. Pigeon said, though. If a president can force able control key institutions in government, they can help install their preferred type of government outside of the typical governmental machinations.
 
Ugh feck off you old bat. You’re half the reason we have reached this position with your “Brexit means Brexit” bullshit.
As well as peddling the usual “you wouldn’t believe what the EU are making us do now” bullshit for years.
 
I genuinely don’t think Trump wanted to be president or thought that he could be. I think it was a vanity project, so that he could say he ran for president, much like when Katie Price ran as an MP. It all went wrong when he got the nomination, and at that point had to just carry on.
Oh, definitely. He probably thought he could sabotage his own chances by doing it but it somehow made him win. And at that point voters around the world had a spotlight shining on them that showed people like Boris how you can get away with it. Keep people dumb and fill them with nice sounding slogans and they'll accept it.

It also takes a special kind of cnut to do it, though. As much as I dislike Cameron I don't think he would've been capable of dropping to Boris's level of bastardry.
 
Oh, definitely. He probably thought he could sabotage his own chances by doing it but it somehow made him win. And at that point voters around the world had a spotlight shining on them that showed people like Boris how you can get away with it. Keep people dumb and fill them with nice sounding slogans and they'll accept it.

It also takes a special kind of cnut to do it, though. As much as I dislike Cameron I don't think he would've been capable of dropping to Boris's level of bastardry.

That last sentence probably sounds great in scots in particular the last word. On a side note people don't need help to stay dumb, Trump is more a symptom than an actor in his own election.
 
Our biggest problem is that public opinion is swayed a lot by what people see and hear from their politicians, and for the majority of our press it's right wing or center right. The average person doesn't really hear about the failings of Boris and Co because the Mail are too busy talking about how Corbyn is a socialist (even with Starmer being in charge).

We've gradually but intentionally come to a point where they've won. They control the message and can hand over millions of taxpayer's pounds to their buddies in broad daylight and not even have to answer questions about it - which wouldn't matter anyway because if they did they would just say "that's not true" and get away without even a rebuttal from the media... And EVEN then if there was a rebuttal, the people reading the news won't be interested because they've been distracted by the latest cat videos that pop up in social media (or on the front page of the BBC instead of actual news).
Absolutely true.

Even more depressing is wondering how long it will take before there are no people left who recognise that fact. In a generation? Or just a few more years of limited access to any "alternative" views. In a few years could we only have access to the Daily Mail and other right wing outlets, all posing as different viewpoints?
 
And when they realise that immigration won't be "brought under control" either. Speaking of which...



Here's the latest figures @Strachans Cigar. Same trend nearly 18 months on. EU immigration goes down, while we voluntarily choose to let in even more non-EU immigrants.



Do you think maybe you were lied to about Brexit's role in immigration reform?
He was banned ages ago! His last post was an epic way to go.
 
Link to it? It wasn’t the one that was just referenced, was it?
Was from the gay footballers thread.


Pissing & reproduction would probably be correct. In terms of what is normal/natural:

Wanking, doesn’t reproduce the species.

Blowjobs, ditto

Snips & contraception, man made, so not natural or normal

Tit wanks, toe jobs, anal sex...of course it’s all developments/embellishments/enhancements to the only basic necessary & normal act of fecking innit? Tits are for feeding infants, toes help balance, arses, well, you get the picture. An awful lot of human sexual behaviour isn’t normal when you think about it is it? All those ‘weird’ fetishes and so on?

Animals? Don’t generally see Monkeys teabagging each other with gas masks & gimp suits on do we down Chester Zoo?

Bum fun? Well of course you have the classic ‘mans man’ who thinks it’s great that his Missus takes it up the arse, but who is also as homophobic as you like. Very hypocritical, as apart from a few hairs, it’s exactly the same act innit? (I know) So no, heterosexual anal sex ain’t normal either.

It’s really really simple. Sticking your dick up someone’s arse is not normal behaviour & the lengths liberals will go to try and persuade everyone else that somehow it is are, quite frankly, ridiculous. I knew it wasn’t normal when I was doing it ffs! If you are happy doing it, and the other party consents that’s all that fecking matters yeah?

You might be *trying* to make the straight majority see it as normal because you are a social libertarian, it doesn’t matter. Because, it ain’t normal. It is an abuse of equipment put simply. Proven by biological design, test & result over one million years.

Or, we could go completely the other way couldn’t we? Because if a significant minority of people do an act it *must be normal* right!? Because in early human ancestory, Rape was normal, Murder was normal, Cannibalism was normal, Paedophilia was normal? And there was no means of policing society back then was there? Or any *artificial* human system for keeping order and us being a (fake) so called civilised society was there? So, nature being nature it was the law of the jungle yeah? Plenty of animals still do these things yeah?

Animals that the liberal community seem very keen on pointing to for evidence of homosexuality being natural?
 
Was from the gay footballers thread.
I remember this, was thinking more along Brexit terms.

This is quite the departure statement. It’s sad that some in here & in society in general would be nodding along with this like the chick behind Trump the other night.
 
I remember this, was thinking more along Brexit terms.

This is quite the departure statement. It’s sad that some in here & in society in general would be nodding along with this like the chick behind Trump the other night.
There's pages of the shit around the pages linked to below. He had an obsession with immigration numbers.
https://www.redcafe.net/search/255679/?page=5
 
Jesus Christ. Where do you even begin with that mess of a post?
You have to imagine how well he thought he was owning everyone while typing out that abortion. Hell, he probably fashioned it ahead of time just waiting for the right time to lay down a stellar own.
 
You have to imagine how well he thought he was owning everyone while typing out that abortion. Hell, he probably fashioned it ahead of time just waiting for the right time to lay down a stellar own.
Probably expecting some sort of medal at the same time too. And then, Bam. Banned.

Bigoted Twit.
 
You have to imagine how well he thought he was owning everyone while typing out that abortion. Hell, he probably fashioned it ahead of time just waiting for the right time to lay down a stellar own.
The weird thing was he confessed to having had gay dalliances to to get himself off cos he was having difficulties pulling women. He was a confused, messed up bigot.
 
The weird thing was he confessed to having had gay dalliances to to get himself off cos he was having difficulties pulling women. He was a confused, messed up bigot.

there was a nazi who came on a very left-wing subreddit to scream about LGBT degenaracy and someone googled his username and the hits were gay porn sites. it was sad in a way, intense hatred of himself and everyone else. he left after spamming dick pics. the subredit has been ethered from existence, this archived post is all that remains:

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The nature of Brexit had really changed these past few hours...
 
there was a nazi who came on a very left-wing subreddit to scream about LGBT degenaracy and someone googled his username and the hits were gay porn sites. it was sad in a way, intense hatred of himself and everyone else. he left after spamming dick pics. the subredit has been ethered from existence, this archived post is all that remains:

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Christ he sounds like Larry Craig, that US senator who was anti-gay, but then got caught cottaging.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2007/sep/02/usa.paulharris
 
He plainly doesn't know much about Bonobo behaviour

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo#Sociosexual_behaviour

Add to a long list of things he doesn't know or gets horribly wrong. Lets face it if we used his definition of natural we wouldn't bother with any of this medicine nonsense. Or planes, cars, cutlery, bog roll, Hull etc.
:lol:I'm going to Hull tomorrow and it is a godless place.
Wait? What? :lol:
He references it in that post with the bit about the only difference between sex with a man or woman being 'a few hairs'.
Christ, I'd all but forgotten about him, but his last few posts were a bit of a meltdown of sorts.
 
Hands under stall dividers are just fecking spooky.
His 'wide stances defence is dubious:lol:

They would sit down in the stalls and use a recognisable series of foot movements and hand gestures to signal their intentions.

Is there a rosetta stone somewhere translating these gestures?
 
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Hardly a surprise... Great timing though just as the supposedly final talks are taking shape...
Didn't the eu want the bill withdrawn or amended to be in line with the withdrawal agreement by the end of the month
At this point I'd be happy with supposed "oven ready" deal. No deal would be devastating.
 
Hardly a surprise... Great timing though just as the supposedly final talks are taking shape...
Didn't the eu want the bill withdrawn or amended to be in line with the withdrawal agreement by the end of the month

The end of September, not the end of October.
No deal (no FTA) still looks inevitable.
 
Sadly no deal has been highly likely for a long time.

Short-selling: can hedge funds make a fortune from no-deal Brexit?
Philip Hammond says Boris Johnson’s rich backers are line to make a killing
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...ge-funds-fortune-no-deal-brexit-boris-johnson

From day one really, they've managed to convince the Brexidiots by keep mentioning foreigners and sovereignty to keep them onside. They'll still be flag-waving when the economy goes down the toilet.
 
Meanwhile, Dyson is having a laugh in his mansion in Singapur. The hypocrisy of Brexit-people is limitless, but it probably is something that will benefit quite a few high profile people in the Conservative party. Your average Brexit Joe will suffer though.

Still, nice to see that there is some kind of resistance in the House of Lords.
 
FT: EU carmakers call on Brussels to ‘reconsider’ Brexit stance

Europe’s car manufacturers have called on Brussels to take a less restrictive stance on future market access to the UK, warning that aspects of the bloc’s current position are “not in the long-term interests of the EU automotive industry”. The letter from the European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association (ACEA) — a group that represents companies including BMW, Toyota and Fiat — urges Brussels to “reconsider its position” on rules for determining whether goods will qualify for tariff-free trade.

The letter, sent on October 15 and seen by the Financial Times, is a sign of how key EU industries are concerned about the potential economic fallout of Brussels’ approach to the negotiations.