Probably but cannot see an election until just before deadline or even another extension. Parliament will be in limbo.
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Probably but cannot see an election until just before deadline or even another extension. Parliament will be in limbo.
Time to start another thread then on general election 2019. And time to start brushing up on tactical voting to avoid a Johnson majority.
Lyndsay Hoyle's job application will have gone down well with the conservatives
The only tactic I can imagine that prevents a Johnson government is the physical removal of everywhere that's not a metropolitan area from the Midlands downwards. A fecking Brexit election so we can listen to a party tell us that they'll get out the EU which is "what the people want", that they are somehow not part of Parliament, an organisation they will continue to portray as being against the country's population. It's a disaster and the ripples spreading out from the impact will last generations. The feckening will be upon us.
Oliver Dowden is a waste of skin and bouffant.
Democracy in action:
Maybe they could develop a set of politics other than the one way they voted in the 2016 referendum ?
That’s the problem though ain’t it. Everyone is forgetting all the other national priorities apart from Brexit.
Boris tracking back:
How anyone would vote Tory after their record across all services is beyond me. They will try and make this about Brexit as much as possible as they are weak on other areas.
A number of fairly safe seats there ... Logical in the run up to the election if they are happy to sign up and vote for the Boris brexit plan
Because Jeremy is the enemy.
I'm sorry, I know I should be better than this, but people have proven themselves to be fecking idiots. The Tories under Cameron somehow managed to put all of the blame for the recession, started in the US by banks selling sub prime mortgage tranches that had been unlawfully labelled AAA by ratings agencies that were fighting one another for work and would label any dog shit banks put in front of them as brilliant, totally safe investments, which once variable rates went up and people defaulted on their loans caused a chain reaction that saw an entire global market brought to its knees, on Gordon Brown selling gold on the cheap.
People will just believe whatever is the simplest reason that they can find, because they don't want to admit to anyone that they're too fecking thick to understand anything that takes more than a sentence to explain. That's why Cameron and now Boris can stand in front of the press and say "x is because of Labour" or "y is because your immigrant neighbour on disability benefits got a new 65" 4k telly" and people will believe it. Because the truth would be too confusing to them and distracts their attention away from watching cat videos on Reddit or Celebrity Buttfeck Party Time Dancing Island 3000. Which is probably hosted by that annoying plastic faced cnut Rylan Whateverthefeck.
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Pretty difficult in an election that has been called only because of Brexit.
I think this wouldn’t work now as Corbyn actually wants an election. It only would have worked had Labour been consistent with their message from the start:
I agree but it’s not a referendum, it’s a General Election but don’t think the dim electorate will understand anyway.
Have to agree. The lack of voters understanding issues is the reason Boris has been coming up with the slogans for everyone to read. It’s the ‘Get on with it’ brigade. Voters are easily manipulated.
It's like when I voted Lib Dem with my first vote, and then Labour for about a decade and finally SNP because Brown retired and his Labour replacement in my constituency is absolutely useless compared to our Scottish Government MSP counterpart (who is SNP).
I'm easily swayed by party rhetoric - I think (hope) everyone is to some extent. But some of Johnson's work is so brazenly bullshit that it amazes me how his press buddies can keep a straight face when they say that are being balanced.
Don’t get me started on the press holding the politicians to account. It’s pathetic in this country. Channel 4 and a couple of other journalists aside, the journalists are a joke asking any tough questions. That’s why the politicians know they can get away with it.
This speaker has nothing on Bercow.
He is odds on favourite for the next speaker unfortunately.
9 December rejected. 315-295.
Can someone explain what a GE solves here? The UK press will start going on about how Corbyn wears his tie or something and blaming him for Brexit, and Boris will win. Then what?
San Corbyn eat a bacon sandwich? That's the real question!
If Johnson gets a decent majority in parliament its job done for him and we leave the EU under his terms. With the splitting of the remain vote between SNP, Lib Dems and Labour not knowing what they believe in that could well happen unfortunately.
The Uk are running out of excuses to give the EU - this buys another 3 months of procrastinating.
What if labour win the election? What exactly is their stance on brexit?
Renegotiate a deal and have a second referendum on said deal versus remain.
That really only applies to Labour, Johnson will certainly leave if he gets more MPs, the Libs and SNP are clearly for remain.
Well we've got til the 5th November when Parliament gets dissolves. MP's back on Friday 13th then off for Xmas, enter into the new year with 3 weeks to Brexit and back to where we were
Yeah basically
Not totally convinced that many of them actually want to leave, even some of the obvious suspects. If the Uk does finally leave, the last 4 years of fantasy ends and the real world re-starts.
Exactly and back to square one probably - only this time I think this is the last chance.
Mps back on 13th... I doubt that... Results usually don't come in from all.constituiencies till some time on 13th and MPs are usually in the constituiences for the results
And of course typically then you have a state opening and a queens speach .... If you factor in potentially messing around with a hung parliament and forming a government it could quite possibly be mid / late January...
Pay rises AND shit tons of holidays. And they say working in the public service has been nothing but squeezed wages, pulling back holiday weeks and taking a chainsaw to public pension. These folk prove that argument wrong.
Oh shit, wait, now that I look at my own job I realise thats bullshit. Hmm, maybe these public servants just got lucky....
Arseholes. Pee in their Cheerios.
Oh shit, wait, now that I look at my own job I realise thats bullshit. Hmm, maybe these public servants just got lucky....
Arseholes. Pee in their Cheerios.
bLiar is spot on here, totally agree with him. I've also thought the same for ages: Why not pin down BJ with this question on what is he so scared in a 2nd referendum? Actually, it's BJ who is the chicken. That should have been the narrative for a long time.
bLiar also right about the conflation of brexit and GE's, and the 2 newly created conflicted groups. Idiocy. And I know bLiar would have nailed BJ is this same exact situation.